Re: new version of mpi kit
08-11-2003, 11:44 AM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
My MPFI kit from Hesco is four years old, and I have a single rail injector
system.
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> for those of you interested-there is a new version of the mopar mpi kit-
> the new version uses a single fuel rail instead of the dual in the older
> version. i called hesco and they told me the old kit (the one sold by
> mopar) is being discontinued. some of the parts that make up the old kit
> have already been discontinued by chrysler. the new kit has not been
> licensed by mopar yet and is being sold by collins brothers as the "hesco
> mpi kit". if interested, call up collins and ask for "rita" in the sales
> dept. x 223. happy jeeping!
>
>
system.
"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> for those of you interested-there is a new version of the mopar mpi kit-
> the new version uses a single fuel rail instead of the dual in the older
> version. i called hesco and they told me the old kit (the one sold by
> mopar) is being discontinued. some of the parts that make up the old kit
> have already been discontinued by chrysler. the new kit has not been
> licensed by mopar yet and is being sold by collins brothers as the "hesco
> mpi kit". if interested, call up collins and ask for "rita" in the sales
> dept. x 223. happy jeeping!
>
>
08-11-2003, 02:55 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
I can't imagine how else it would work, unless he's talking about
doing away with the fuel return line.
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> My MPFI kit from Hesco is four years old, and I have a single rail injector
> system.
doing away with the fuel return line.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> My MPFI kit from Hesco is four years old, and I have a single rail injector
> system.
08-11-2003, 04:38 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
Come to think of it, This MPI kit is also modeled after an 94 Wrangler. How
could they discontinue these parts? If you need replacement parts you only
need request the same from a 94 wrangler, correct?
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My MPFI kit from Hesco is four years old, and I have a single rail
injector
> system.
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:4hdZa.183$C76.172@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > for those of you interested-there is a new version of the mopar mpi kit-
> > the new version uses a single fuel rail instead of the dual in the older
> > version. i called hesco and they told me the old kit (the one sold by
> > mopar) is being discontinued. some of the parts that make up the old
kit
> > have already been discontinued by chrysler. the new kit has not been
> > licensed by mopar yet and is being sold by collins brothers as the
"hesco
> > mpi kit". if interested, call up collins and ask for "rita" in the sales
> > dept. x 223. happy jeeping!
> >
> >
>
>
could they discontinue these parts? If you need replacement parts you only
need request the same from a 94 wrangler, correct?
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My MPFI kit from Hesco is four years old, and I have a single rail
injector
> system.
>
>
>
> "serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:4hdZa.183$C76.172@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > for those of you interested-there is a new version of the mopar mpi kit-
> > the new version uses a single fuel rail instead of the dual in the older
> > version. i called hesco and they told me the old kit (the one sold by
> > mopar) is being discontinued. some of the parts that make up the old
kit
> > have already been discontinued by chrysler. the new kit has not been
> > licensed by mopar yet and is being sold by collins brothers as the
"hesco
> > mpi kit". if interested, call up collins and ask for "rita" in the sales
> > dept. x 223. happy jeeping!
> >
> >
>
>
08-11-2003, 06:41 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
That means the ninety pound fuel pump will have to be regulated to
forty pounds, going to make a problem for longevity. No new car
manufacturer works it that way.
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serg wrote:
>
> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit arrives...
forty pounds, going to make a problem for longevity. No new car
manufacturer works it that way.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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serg wrote:
>
> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit arrives...
08-12-2003, 02:53 AM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
In message <3F381B25.404414D0@***.net>, "L.W." wrote:
> That means the ninety pound fuel pump will have to be regulated to
>forty pounds, going to make a problem for longevity. No new car
>manufacturer works it that way.
Sure they do. Jeeps have had no return line on the fuel rail since about '95.
Regulator is in the fuel pump module.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>serg wrote:
>>
>> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit arrives...
> That means the ninety pound fuel pump will have to be regulated to
>forty pounds, going to make a problem for longevity. No new car
>manufacturer works it that way.
Sure they do. Jeeps have had no return line on the fuel rail since about '95.
Regulator is in the fuel pump module.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>serg wrote:
>>
>> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit arrives...
08-12-2003, 01:00 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
Cheez, only Daimler could be so stupid as to combine the pump and
regulator and stick in the tank:
http://www.----------.com/97TJfuelreg.pdf That should knock what's left
of Jeep off the road in only a couple more years. The ***** may have
lost a battle but they sure have won the war.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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bllsht wrote:
>
> Sure they do. Jeeps have had no return line on the fuel rail since about '95.
> Regulator is in the fuel pump module.
regulator and stick in the tank:
http://www.----------.com/97TJfuelreg.pdf That should knock what's left
of Jeep off the road in only a couple more years. The ***** may have
lost a battle but they sure have won the war.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
bllsht wrote:
>
> Sure they do. Jeeps have had no return line on the fuel rail since about '95.
> Regulator is in the fuel pump module.
08-13-2003, 01:28 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
Approximately 8/13/03 04:27, DougW uttered for posterity:
> Will Honea wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:45:24 UTC "DougW" wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>> No return line, how does that work?
>>>
>>> My guess would be "poorly" :)
>>>
>>>> "serg" wrote ...
>>>>> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit
>>>>> arrives...
>>
>> No crap! It's enough of a pain to bleed the air out of an empty
>> line/rail with the bypass flow of the external regulator so just
>> imagine the PITA this will be if you ever happen to run out of gas.
>
> Actually don't think I've ever seen a fuel injection without a return
> line. That's the only way to keep regulated pressure in the rail.
> I'm betting there is a return line but it's just not shown. Guess we all
> will find out when your kit gets in.
>
Take a look at a Factory Service Manuual for the ZJ series.
No return line. The regulator is in the fuel pump which is
in the gas tank. You have to release pressure at the fuel
rail to do much of anything.
> Will Honea wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:45:24 UTC "DougW" wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>> No return line, how does that work?
>>>
>>> My guess would be "poorly" :)
>>>
>>>> "serg" wrote ...
>>>>> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit
>>>>> arrives...
>>
>> No crap! It's enough of a pain to bleed the air out of an empty
>> line/rail with the bypass flow of the external regulator so just
>> imagine the PITA this will be if you ever happen to run out of gas.
>
> Actually don't think I've ever seen a fuel injection without a return
> line. That's the only way to keep regulated pressure in the rail.
> I'm betting there is a return line but it's just not shown. Guess we all
> will find out when your kit gets in.
>
Take a look at a Factory Service Manuual for the ZJ series.
No return line. The regulator is in the fuel pump which is
in the gas tank. You have to release pressure at the fuel
rail to do much of anything.
08-13-2003, 03:33 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:45:24 UTC "DougW"
> <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > > No return line, how does that work?
> >
> > My guess would be "poorly" :)
> >
> > > "serg" wrote ...
> > >> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit
arrives...
>
> No crap! It's enough of a pain to bleed the air out of an empty
> line/rail with the bypass flow of the external regulator so just
> imagine the PITA this will be if you ever happen to run out of gas.
>
That's easy Will, just unplug the feed line where it connects to the rail.
The gas will come out after the pump runs for a few seconds.
08-13-2003, 06:18 PM
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Re: new version of mpi kit
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Approximately 8/13/03 04:27, DougW uttered for posterity:
>
>> Will Honea wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:45:24 UTC "DougW" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>> No return line, how does that work?
>>>>
>>>> My guess would be "poorly" :)
>>>>
>>>>> "serg" wrote ...
>>>>>> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit
>>>>>> arrives...
>>>
>>> No crap! It's enough of a pain to bleed the air out of an empty
>>> line/rail with the bypass flow of the external regulator so just
>>> imagine the PITA this will be if you ever happen to run out of gas.
>>
>> Actually don't think I've ever seen a fuel injection without a return
>> line. That's the only way to keep regulated pressure in the rail.
>> I'm betting there is a return line but it's just not shown. Guess we all
>> will find out when your kit gets in.
>>
>
> Take a look at a Factory Service Manuual for the ZJ series.
> No return line. The regulator is in the fuel pump which is
> in the gas tank. You have to release pressure at the fuel
> rail to do much of anything.
Must be the later ZJs, mine has a return line, that's how it sets
the rail pressure. Back port is fuel-in, front is the return line
routed through the stock regulator then the Edelbrock regulator.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/regulator-detail.jpg
--
DougW
> Approximately 8/13/03 04:27, DougW uttered for posterity:
>
>> Will Honea wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:45:24 UTC "DougW" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>> No return line, how does that work?
>>>>
>>>> My guess would be "poorly" :)
>>>>
>>>>> "serg" wrote ...
>>>>>> yup! no return line...i'll let you guys know for sure when my kit
>>>>>> arrives...
>>>
>>> No crap! It's enough of a pain to bleed the air out of an empty
>>> line/rail with the bypass flow of the external regulator so just
>>> imagine the PITA this will be if you ever happen to run out of gas.
>>
>> Actually don't think I've ever seen a fuel injection without a return
>> line. That's the only way to keep regulated pressure in the rail.
>> I'm betting there is a return line but it's just not shown. Guess we all
>> will find out when your kit gets in.
>>
>
> Take a look at a Factory Service Manuual for the ZJ series.
> No return line. The regulator is in the fuel pump which is
> in the gas tank. You have to release pressure at the fuel
> rail to do much of anything.
Must be the later ZJs, mine has a return line, that's how it sets
the rail pressure. Back port is fuel-in, front is the return line
routed through the stock regulator then the Edelbrock regulator.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/regulator-detail.jpg
--
DougW
