Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
07-01-2003, 10:32 PM
#51
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Well...it does! =)
Never left, just been in depressed lurk mode. Some day the TJ will get out of the
shop.... =(
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:00:44 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I'd like to report an Asner. Great Jenn! Leave for a few weeks, then come
>>back and fill my keyboard with coke in less than a week. Damn it girl!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:0ja4gvg6hq14ig3l2crt5h7e7403qf5cut@4ax.com. ..
>>> Looks more like a Jeep blow job to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 23:21:10 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Part of Jeeping is fording each other:
>>> >>http://www.----------.com/jeephump.jpg
>>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>mailto:--------------------
>>>
>>
Never left, just been in depressed lurk mode. Some day the TJ will get out of the
shop.... =(
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:00:44 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I'd like to report an Asner. Great Jenn! Leave for a few weeks, then come
>>back and fill my keyboard with coke in less than a week. Damn it girl!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:0ja4gvg6hq14ig3l2crt5h7e7403qf5cut@4ax.com. ..
>>> Looks more like a Jeep blow job to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 23:21:10 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>><----------@***.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Part of Jeeping is fording each other:
>>> >>http://www.----------.com/jeephump.jpg
>>> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>> >>mailto:--------------------
>>>
>>
07-02-2003, 02:42 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
I think someone (Earle ?) convinced me that the American pronounciation was
more correct actualy. English people tend not to pronounce their 'R's at the
end of a sentence. I remember being baffled as a kid where I read an English
book that thought that "door" and "saw" rhymed !?!
I pronounce it jag-u-war which may similarly annoy :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Bill Putney" <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message
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: "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
: Reminds me - am I the only one whose nerves are grated by Jaguar's radio
: commercials with the British announcer? I guess the Brits normally
: pronounce it "jagyouaw" as opposed to the American "jagwar". The former
: sounds so pretentious (but the American pronunciation is probably
: bastardized).
more correct actualy. English people tend not to pronounce their 'R's at the
end of a sentence. I remember being baffled as a kid where I read an English
book that thought that "door" and "saw" rhymed !?!
I pronounce it jag-u-war which may similarly annoy :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Bill Putney" <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message
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: "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
: Reminds me - am I the only one whose nerves are grated by Jaguar's radio
: commercials with the British announcer? I guess the Brits normally
: pronounce it "jagyouaw" as opposed to the American "jagwar". The former
: sounds so pretentious (but the American pronunciation is probably
: bastardized).
07-02-2003, 03:37 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:50:11 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0307011404130.5120-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
> >
> > > > Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
> > >
> > > It looks like OE performed this 'favor' for me when I cut-n-pasted the
> > > definition of intransitive from the website.
> >
> > Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
> >
> > Shame, Geoff. I expected better/smarter from you.
> >
>
>
> At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
> news and mail? And, is it free?
Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
lot better.
--
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> "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0307011404130.5120-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
> >
> > > > Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
> > >
> > > It looks like OE performed this 'favor' for me when I cut-n-pasted the
> > > definition of intransitive from the website.
> >
> > Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
> >
> > Shame, Geoff. I expected better/smarter from you.
> >
>
>
> At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
> news and mail? And, is it free?
Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
lot better.
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07-02-2003, 08:01 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Looked at the Bat site. Of the features I need, it seems Outlook Express
can do much the same. The biggest issue seems to me to be security, and
isn't that taken care of by regular Norton AV updates?
As regards manipulation of e-mail on a remote server, my ISP gives me web
access to my POP3 account so can get to it from anywhere. As soon as I can
log into my e-mail account directly I can download any work I have done; I
send myself copies of any outgoing mail so that it arrives in my
downloadable Inbox. In other words, this is entirely
e-mail-client-independent. Does Bat! offer something superior?
DAS
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> On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:50:11 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> > At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express
for
> > news and mail? And, is it free?
>
> Assuming we're talking about Windows . . .
>
> 'The Bat!' is the best email program. It's cheap.
> http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/
>
> 'Forte Agent' has a free version, and the commercial version is cheap too.
> http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
can do much the same. The biggest issue seems to me to be security, and
isn't that taken care of by regular Norton AV updates?
As regards manipulation of e-mail on a remote server, my ISP gives me web
access to my POP3 account so can get to it from anywhere. As soon as I can
log into my e-mail account directly I can download any work I have done; I
send myself copies of any outgoing mail so that it arrives in my
downloadable Inbox. In other words, this is entirely
e-mail-client-independent. Does Bat! offer something superior?
DAS
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"C Roth" <mongoose@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:50:11 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> > At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express
for
> > news and mail? And, is it free?
>
> Assuming we're talking about Windows . . .
>
> 'The Bat!' is the best email program. It's cheap.
> http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/
>
> 'Forte Agent' has a free version, and the commercial version is cheap too.
> http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
07-02-2003, 08:07 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Doesn't that make it an adjective, too, as in Jeepers Creepers?
Am not sure if there should be an apostrophe before or after the s in
Jeepers.
DAS
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jeeping is a verb. Jeeper is a noun.
.....................................>
> all whild Jeeping in my Jeep with other Jeepers. Jeepers, it was fun!
......................................>
>
Am not sure if there should be an apostrophe before or after the s in
Jeepers.
DAS
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jeeping is a verb. Jeeper is a noun.
.....................................>
> all whild Jeeping in my Jeep with other Jeepers. Jeepers, it was fun!
......................................>
>
07-02-2003, 08:19 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
Only a North American would think that my fellow southern Englishmen and I
pronounce the "o" in the words listed below the same way as the "aw" in the
words listed. Maybe they sound the same when viewed from/heard in Atlanta
(where I was once mistaken for a Yank from NY!) but they are certainly
different in my part of the world.
BTW, we don't have "British" accents in Britain! We certainly have many
varieties of accent, but not anything known as "British", not even
collectively...
There are English accents, Welsh and Scottish accents and even Irish accents
in the UK, never mind Estuary (a new term), Scouse...
Even though I am serious, do I need a smilie face?
DAS
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
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> There are North American accents in which the short "o" pronunciation is
> closer to many British accents ("orange", "forest" and "opera" have the
> same primary vowel sounds as "paw", "thaw" and "law").
>
..........................................
pronounce the "o" in the words listed below the same way as the "aw" in the
words listed. Maybe they sound the same when viewed from/heard in Atlanta
(where I was once mistaken for a Yank from NY!) but they are certainly
different in my part of the world.
BTW, we don't have "British" accents in Britain! We certainly have many
varieties of accent, but not anything known as "British", not even
collectively...
There are English accents, Welsh and Scottish accents and even Irish accents
in the UK, never mind Estuary (a new term), Scouse...
Even though I am serious, do I need a smilie face?
DAS
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
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> There are North American accents in which the short "o" pronunciation is
> closer to many British accents ("orange", "forest" and "opera" have the
> same primary vowel sounds as "paw", "thaw" and "law").
>
..........................................
07-02-2003, 09:18 AM
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On 2 Jul 2003 07:37:54 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:50:11 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0307011404130.5120-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
>> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
>> > >
>> > > It looks like OE performed this 'favor' for me when I cut-n-pasted the
>> > > definition of intransitive from the website.
>> >
>> > Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
>> >
>> > Shame, Geoff. I expected better/smarter from you.
>> >
>>
>>
>> At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
>> news and mail? And, is it free?
>
>Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
>lot better.
For news, you can get Forte Free Agent. Much better than OE. It will
do your mail if you like too. You can upgrade to Forte Agent
(has a few "nice to have" features) for $29 if you like. They'll
give you free updates/release for many years.
http://www.forteinc.com
Bob
>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:50:11 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0307011404130.5120-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
>> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
>> > >
>> > > It looks like OE performed this 'favor' for me when I cut-n-pasted the
>> > > definition of intransitive from the website.
>> >
>> > Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
>> >
>> > Shame, Geoff. I expected better/smarter from you.
>> >
>>
>>
>> At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
>> news and mail? And, is it free?
>
>Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
>lot better.
For news, you can get Forte Free Agent. Much better than OE. It will
do your mail if you like too. You can upgrade to Forte Agent
(has a few "nice to have" features) for $29 if you like. They'll
give you free updates/release for many years.
http://www.forteinc.com
Bob
07-02-2003, 10:03 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:01:37 +0100, "Dori Schmetterling"
<ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>Looked at the Bat site. Of the features I need, it seems Outlook Express
>can do much the same. The biggest issue seems to me to be security, and
>isn't that taken care of by regular Norton AV updates?
No.
I like Microsoft mostly. However, there are major issues with
security holes. If you do not patch those holes, it is possible for
people to attack your system. Not every attack is a virus or trojan
horse.
>As regards manipulation of e-mail on a remote server, my ISP gives me web
>access to my POP3 account so can get to it from anywhere. As soon as I can
>log into my e-mail account directly I can download any work I have done; I
>send myself copies of any outgoing mail so that it arrives in my
>downloadable Inbox. In other words, this is entirely
>e-mail-client-independent. Does Bat! offer something superior?
>
>DAS
<ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>Looked at the Bat site. Of the features I need, it seems Outlook Express
>can do much the same. The biggest issue seems to me to be security, and
>isn't that taken care of by regular Norton AV updates?
No.
I like Microsoft mostly. However, there are major issues with
security holes. If you do not patch those holes, it is possible for
people to attack your system. Not every attack is a virus or trojan
horse.
>As regards manipulation of e-mail on a remote server, my ISP gives me web
>access to my POP3 account so can get to it from anywhere. As soon as I can
>log into my e-mail account directly I can download any work I have done; I
>send myself copies of any outgoing mail so that it arrives in my
>downloadable Inbox. In other words, this is entirely
>e-mail-client-independent. Does Bat! offer something superior?
>
>DAS
07-02-2003, 10:03 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:50:11 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
>news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0307011404130.5120-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
>> Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
>
>At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
>news and mail? And, is it free?
>
One is not a moron for not knowing something, that is called
ignorance. We are all ignorant of quite a bit, until we learn it. As
they say, ignorance is bliss - but that phrase is quite misused,
seeming to imply stupidity instead of simple lack of knowledge of a
particular area of study....
But I digress.
Agent is awesome, Free Agent is free but less awesome. XNews is
allegedly awesome, but I haven't used it. I heard it was free.
Netslut comes with a news reader that is superior to outhouse, so
probably does Mozilla and Opera. I believe there are at least two
other products I have seen comments on in the last couple days.
Try Googling for "free news reader". I did and got hits on Agent from
Forte, and a number of other products I never heard of.
wrote:
>
>"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
>news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0307011404130.5120-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
>> Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
>
>At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
>news and mail? And, is it free?
>
One is not a moron for not knowing something, that is called
ignorance. We are all ignorant of quite a bit, until we learn it. As
they say, ignorance is bliss - but that phrase is quite misused,
seeming to imply stupidity instead of simple lack of knowledge of a
particular area of study....
But I digress.
Agent is awesome, Free Agent is free but less awesome. XNews is
allegedly awesome, but I haven't used it. I heard it was free.
Netslut comes with a news reader that is superior to outhouse, so
probably does Mozilla and Opera. I believe there are at least two
other products I have seen comments on in the last couple days.
Try Googling for "free news reader". I did and got hits on Agent from
Forte, and a number of other products I never heard of.
07-02-2003, 11:18 AM
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Re: Jeep thing or sheep thing?
<snip>
>
> Agent is awesome, Free Agent is free but less awesome. XNews is
> allegedly awesome, but I haven't used it. I heard it was free.
> Netslut comes with a news reader that is superior to outhouse, so
> probably does Mozilla and Opera. I believe there are at least two
> other products I have seen comments on in the last couple days.
>
> Try Googling for "free news reader". I did and got hits on Agent from
> Forte, and a number of other products I never heard of.
I like Xnews especially for downloading large files that are split up by
most news servers. I still use OE sometimes (like now), but more and more I
am getting used to Xnews. It is free and it can be downloaded here:
http://xnews.newsguy.com/#download
Chris
>
> Agent is awesome, Free Agent is free but less awesome. XNews is
> allegedly awesome, but I haven't used it. I heard it was free.
> Netslut comes with a news reader that is superior to outhouse, so
> probably does Mozilla and Opera. I believe there are at least two
> other products I have seen comments on in the last couple days.
>
> Try Googling for "free news reader". I did and got hits on Agent from
> Forte, and a number of other products I never heard of.
I like Xnews especially for downloading large files that are split up by
most news servers. I still use OE sometimes (like now), but more and more I
am getting used to Xnews. It is free and it can be downloaded here:
http://xnews.newsguy.com/#download
Chris