Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> No.
>
> A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

I do not have ABS.

TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
44s and leave the 30 in the front?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> No.
>
> A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

I do not have ABS.

TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
44s and leave the 30 in the front?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> No.
>
> A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

I do not have ABS.

TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
44s and leave the 30 in the front?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > No.
>
> > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I do not have ABS.
>
> TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
locking axles and the limited slip axles?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > No.
>
> > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I do not have ABS.
>
> TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
locking axles and the limited slip axles?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > No.
>
> > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I do not have ABS.
>
> TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
locking axles and the limited slip axles?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > No.
>
> > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I do not have ABS.
>
> TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
locking axles and the limited slip axles?

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:21 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > Tracie wrote:
> > > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > > No.
>
> > > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I do not have ABS.
>
> > TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> > you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> > gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> > too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> > need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> > 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
> locking axles and the limited slip axles?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh goodness. I am sooo confused. What is the difference/benefit/etc.
of totally changing out the Dana 30/35 for the Dana 44s (other than
the stronger axles)? Won't you get the same effect if you keep the
original Dana's and just upgrade the gears to 4.11s? I don't do any
heavy off-roading at all, and don't ever intend to upgrade my tires to
any bigger than a 33" tire. I also do not intend to lift my rig more
than 4 inches (I am leaning on a 3.5 RE lift). What is the overall
benefit of the stronger axles of the D44s? Now the other confusion is
mentioned in my previous post regarding the difference in limited slip
vs. locking. I do a lot of snow driving and a lot of highway driving
if it helps.

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:21 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > Tracie wrote:
> > > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > > No.
>
> > > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I do not have ABS.
>
> > TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> > you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> > gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> > too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> > need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> > 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
> locking axles and the limited slip axles?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh goodness. I am sooo confused. What is the difference/benefit/etc.
of totally changing out the Dana 30/35 for the Dana 44s (other than
the stronger axles)? Won't you get the same effect if you keep the
original Dana's and just upgrade the gears to 4.11s? I don't do any
heavy off-roading at all, and don't ever intend to upgrade my tires to
any bigger than a 33" tire. I also do not intend to lift my rig more
than 4 inches (I am leaning on a 3.5 RE lift). What is the overall
benefit of the stronger axles of the D44s? Now the other confusion is
mentioned in my previous post regarding the difference in limited slip
vs. locking. I do a lot of snow driving and a lot of highway driving
if it helps.

Re: RE-GEARING TO EITHER 3.73 OR 4.11 (repeat -- sorry)
 

On Sep 22, 11:21 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 11:07 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 22, 10:37 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > Tracie wrote:
> > > > Just so that I understand, the D44 axles would just be replacing the
> > > > axle shafts and the differential housings ONLY, correct? It would not
> > > > be replacing the gearing again?
>
> > > No.
>
> > > A Dana 44 is a complete housing that includes the case, the gears, the
> > > axles, the brake mounting plate, the emergency brake, everything must be
> > > changed including the brake shoes or pads.
>
> > > D35 gears don't fit a D44, they are a different size.
>
> > > Not sure about the driveshaft.
>
> > > If you have ABS, then things get even more complex.
>
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I do not have ABS.
>
> > TW -- How complicated would it be to just switch out the axles like
> > you're suggesting? Would this be easier than just upgrading the
> > gearing? Or does everything that Mike mentioned have to be changed
> > too even if you just upgrade the gearing from stock to 4.11? Would I
> > need D44 for the front AND rear? Or do I just change the rear 35s to
> > 44s and leave the 30 in the front?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If I go the route of the D44s, what is the difference between the
> locking axles and the limited slip axles?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh goodness. I am sooo confused. What is the difference/benefit/etc.
of totally changing out the Dana 30/35 for the Dana 44s (other than
the stronger axles)? Won't you get the same effect if you keep the
original Dana's and just upgrade the gears to 4.11s? I don't do any
heavy off-roading at all, and don't ever intend to upgrade my tires to
any bigger than a 33" tire. I also do not intend to lift my rig more
than 4 inches (I am leaning on a 3.5 RE lift). What is the overall
benefit of the stronger axles of the D44s? Now the other confusion is
mentioned in my previous post regarding the difference in limited slip
vs. locking. I do a lot of snow driving and a lot of highway driving
if it helps.