Fred Hall

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:

>Gerald Howard Rivers, 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, MI 48085-3159, (248)
>828-7693 It's cowards like you that let the Al-Qa'ida Jihad kill five
>thousand Americans. When I see wrong I step up and kill it in the bud,
>even at the expense of maybe my own life, it is die with honor than the
>cowards many bleeding heart liberal wacko limps have turn into.

So what does that have to do with you being a cowardly, lying,
goat-------- netkkkop who outs other poster's RL info?

> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>All Things Mopar wrote:
>>
>> Today PJ commented courteously on the subject at hand
>>
>> > This used to be a really great newsgroup. an escape from
>> > all the lunacy of other newsgroups. A place to come and see
>> > the latest drag racing pics.. please dont spoil it with all
>> > the ugliness and stupidity thats going on here at the
>> > moment...
>> >
>> PJ, I can't remember where I first saw the phrase "I don't feed
>> trolls, I feed ON trolls", but it seems that is what is going
>> on. Ordinarily good people feel a need to correct the obvious
>> blather Billy Boi is spewing around, much of which is not only
>> absurdly wrong and so poorly worded as to question whether he
>> got out of Kindergarten, but it demeans the good names of our
>> men and women who served honorably in the military and/or are
>> doing so today. The trouble is, like all trolls or other lower
>> forms of miscreant life, Billy loves to play tit-for-tat.
>> Everyone's time is taken up reading the nonsense to make sure
>> /they/ aren't mentioned somehow so there's no time left for drag
>> racing pictures or discussion of cars. Billy Boi was driven off
>> alt.binaries.pictures.autos primarily be being silenced to death
>> - people figured out that if they said no-thing no-more, he
>> quickly get bored and move on. There's a really good original
>> Star Trek episode where the invisible alien thrives on emotion
>> and anger and the crew of the Enterprise needed to calm down and
>> look like they were having a good time. The alien left to seek
>> some other angry civilization. There's a lesson in there,
>> methinketh..
>>
>> --
>> ATM, aka Jerry
>>
>> "Whether You Think You CAN Or CAN'T, You're Right." – Henry Ford

--

"I don't know about the war? Christ, you ------- people in this
newsgroup are unbelievable. I was drafted into the U.S. Army. I was
trained for, and participated in the Vietnam conflict."

-- PedoChuck in MID <a44b9687.0207090424.e67e7b9@posting.google.com>

All Things Mopar

Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand

> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>>Gerald Howard Rivers, 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, MI
>>48085-3159, (248) 828-7693 It's cowards like you that let
>>the Al-Qa'ida Jihad kill five thousand Americans. When I
>>see wrong I step up and kill it in the bud, even at the
>>expense of maybe my own life, it is die with honor than the
>>cowards many bleeding heart liberal wacko limps have turn
>>into.
>
> So what does that have to do with you being a cowardly,
> lying, goat-------- netkkkop who outs other poster's RL
> info?

Fred, I'll let you slide on repeating my personal info in your
quotes. <grin>

I don't know what country you live in, but the place Billy Boi
is getting all his info from, like mine above, is President
Bush's big E-Commerce DB from a few years ago. Most of it is
right. The cross-reference to the satellite photos of people's
neighborhoods are often wrong. Some a little, as his posts of
my sub are, some people he "identifies" are actually the wrong
person and/or not even the totally correct name, not to
mention the "real" attackee lives in an entirely different
state.

Billy Boi has no access to anything really personal and
confidential, no matter how loud he screams. One of his other
infamous tactics is to claim he's penetrated, read, and
compromised data on your HD. He's "done" that to me several
times. Well, I've told him that he doesn't have access but I
don't tell him how I know, what I do to protect my system, or
when I do or don't get an attempted net attack.

On a.b.p.a., so many abuse reports and law enforcement
complaints have been filed that it really does surprise me
that he's managed to stay out of jail and civil court for so
long. Of course, we really don't know how many times he's been
indicted or sued, do we? For all we know, he's masquerading as
someone else from inside a Federal prison! One can only hope.
So, I assume the folks here who've been incorrectly
accused/maligned in his latest round of preemtive attacks and
incorrect retalliatory strikes have also reported him to the
appropriate bully boys.

You know, Fred, in today's post-9/11 world here in the U.S.,
particularly bolstered by the strengthened and recently
renewed Patriot Act, as well as the as yet unknown true size
of domestic surveillance, it would seem to me that anyone with
an ounce of intelligence would avoid making these wild claims
and threats in public, "in the clear". It takes very little
today to meet the definition of a "credible threat" whether it
be a threat on someone's life (he told me several times to
expect what he called a "package" - a bomb, maybe?) or a
--------- plot in the planning. The former is a garden variety
felony while the latter will get you "detained" - the modern
euphemism for "arrested without getting your Miranda rights,
with the right to a writ of habeous corpus indefinitely
suspended, no charges ever filed, and access to legal counsel
denied" - all for an indefinite period. If it were me, I
wouldn't want some guys in dark suits and sun glasses coming
to see me some night!

Meanwhile, if we could possibly get everyone to just /stop/
replying to him, this would all blow over rather quickly.

--
ATM, aka Jerry

"Whether You Think You CAN Or CAN'T, You're Right." – Henry
Ford

All Things Mopar

Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand

> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>>Gerald Howard Rivers, 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, MI
>>48085-3159, (248) 828-7693 It's cowards like you that let
>>the Al-Qa'ida Jihad kill five thousand Americans. When I
>>see wrong I step up and kill it in the bud, even at the
>>expense of maybe my own life, it is die with honor than the
>>cowards many bleeding heart liberal wacko limps have turn
>>into.
>
> So what does that have to do with you being a cowardly,
> lying, goat-------- netkkkop who outs other poster's RL
> info?

Fred, I'll let you slide on repeating my personal info in your
quotes. <grin>

I don't know what country you live in, but the place Billy Boi
is getting all his info from, like mine above, is President
Bush's big E-Commerce DB from a few years ago. Most of it is
right. The cross-reference to the satellite photos of people's
neighborhoods are often wrong. Some a little, as his posts of
my sub are, some people he "identifies" are actually the wrong
person and/or not even the totally correct name, not to
mention the "real" attackee lives in an entirely different
state.

Billy Boi has no access to anything really personal and
confidential, no matter how loud he screams. One of his other
infamous tactics is to claim he's penetrated, read, and
compromised data on your HD. He's "done" that to me several
times. Well, I've told him that he doesn't have access but I
don't tell him how I know, what I do to protect my system, or
when I do or don't get an attempted net attack.

On a.b.p.a., so many abuse reports and law enforcement
complaints have been filed that it really does surprise me
that he's managed to stay out of jail and civil court for so
long. Of course, we really don't know how many times he's been
indicted or sued, do we? For all we know, he's masquerading as
someone else from inside a Federal prison! One can only hope.
So, I assume the folks here who've been incorrectly
accused/maligned in his latest round of preemtive attacks and
incorrect retalliatory strikes have also reported him to the
appropriate bully boys.

You know, Fred, in today's post-9/11 world here in the U.S.,
particularly bolstered by the strengthened and recently
renewed Patriot Act, as well as the as yet unknown true size
of domestic surveillance, it would seem to me that anyone with
an ounce of intelligence would avoid making these wild claims
and threats in public, "in the clear". It takes very little
today to meet the definition of a "credible threat" whether it
be a threat on someone's life (he told me several times to
expect what he called a "package" - a bomb, maybe?) or a
--------- plot in the planning. The former is a garden variety
felony while the latter will get you "detained" - the modern
euphemism for "arrested without getting your Miranda rights,
with the right to a writ of habeous corpus indefinitely
suspended, no charges ever filed, and access to legal counsel
denied" - all for an indefinite period. If it were me, I
wouldn't want some guys in dark suits and sun glasses coming
to see me some night!

Meanwhile, if we could possibly get everyone to just /stop/
replying to him, this would all blow over rather quickly.

--
ATM, aka Jerry

"Whether You Think You CAN Or CAN'T, You're Right." – Henry
Ford

All Things Mopar

Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand

> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>>Gerald Howard Rivers, 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, MI
>>48085-3159, (248) 828-7693 It's cowards like you that let
>>the Al-Qa'ida Jihad kill five thousand Americans. When I
>>see wrong I step up and kill it in the bud, even at the
>>expense of maybe my own life, it is die with honor than the
>>cowards many bleeding heart liberal wacko limps have turn
>>into.
>
> So what does that have to do with you being a cowardly,
> lying, goat-------- netkkkop who outs other poster's RL
> info?

Fred, I'll let you slide on repeating my personal info in your
quotes. <grin>

I don't know what country you live in, but the place Billy Boi
is getting all his info from, like mine above, is President
Bush's big E-Commerce DB from a few years ago. Most of it is
right. The cross-reference to the satellite photos of people's
neighborhoods are often wrong. Some a little, as his posts of
my sub are, some people he "identifies" are actually the wrong
person and/or not even the totally correct name, not to
mention the "real" attackee lives in an entirely different
state.

Billy Boi has no access to anything really personal and
confidential, no matter how loud he screams. One of his other
infamous tactics is to claim he's penetrated, read, and
compromised data on your HD. He's "done" that to me several
times. Well, I've told him that he doesn't have access but I
don't tell him how I know, what I do to protect my system, or
when I do or don't get an attempted net attack.

On a.b.p.a., so many abuse reports and law enforcement
complaints have been filed that it really does surprise me
that he's managed to stay out of jail and civil court for so
long. Of course, we really don't know how many times he's been
indicted or sued, do we? For all we know, he's masquerading as
someone else from inside a Federal prison! One can only hope.
So, I assume the folks here who've been incorrectly
accused/maligned in his latest round of preemtive attacks and
incorrect retalliatory strikes have also reported him to the
appropriate bully boys.

You know, Fred, in today's post-9/11 world here in the U.S.,
particularly bolstered by the strengthened and recently
renewed Patriot Act, as well as the as yet unknown true size
of domestic surveillance, it would seem to me that anyone with
an ounce of intelligence would avoid making these wild claims
and threats in public, "in the clear". It takes very little
today to meet the definition of a "credible threat" whether it
be a threat on someone's life (he told me several times to
expect what he called a "package" - a bomb, maybe?) or a
--------- plot in the planning. The former is a garden variety
felony while the latter will get you "detained" - the modern
euphemism for "arrested without getting your Miranda rights,
with the right to a writ of habeous corpus indefinitely
suspended, no charges ever filed, and access to legal counsel
denied" - all for an indefinite period. If it were me, I
wouldn't want some guys in dark suits and sun glasses coming
to see me some night!

Meanwhile, if we could possibly get everyone to just /stop/
replying to him, this would all blow over rather quickly.

--
ATM, aka Jerry

"Whether You Think You CAN Or CAN'T, You're Right." – Henry
Ford

Kadaitcha Man

All Things Mopar <nunofyour@beez.wax>, the grave digger, mewled:


> Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand
>

>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:


> Fred, I'll let you slide on repeatingmy personal info in your
> quotes. <grin>
>
> I don't knowwhat country you live in, but the place Billy Boi
> is getting allhis info from, like mine above, is President
> Bush's big E-CommerceDB from a few years ago. Most of it is
> right. The cross-referenceto the satellite photos of people's
> neighborhoods are often wrong.Some a little, as his posts of
> my sub are, some people he "identifies"are actually the wrong
> person and/or not even the totally correctname, not to
> mention the "real" attackee lives in an entirely different
> state.
>
> Billy Boi has no access to anything reallypersonal and
> confidential, no matter how loud he screams. One ofhis other
> infamous tactics is to claim he's penetrated, read, and
> compromised data on your HD. He's "done" that to me several
>times. Well, I've told him that he doesn't have access but I
> don'ttell him how I know, what I do to protect my system, or
> when I door don't get an attempted net attack.
>
> On a.b.p.a., so manyabuse reports and law enforcement
> complaints have been filed thatit really does surprise me
> that he's managed to stay out of jailand civil court for so
> long. Of course, we really don't know howmany times he's been
> indicted or sued, do we? For all we know, he'smasquerading as
> someone else from inside a Federal prison! One canonly hope.
> So, I assume the folks here who've been incorrectly
>accused/maligned in his latest round of preemtive attacks and
> incorrectretalliatory strikes have also reported him to the
> appropriate bullyboys.
>
> You know, Fred, in today's post-9/11 world here inthe U.S.,
> particularly bolstered by the strengthened and recently
> renewed Patriot Act, as well as the as yet unknown true size
>of domestic surveillance, it would seem to me that anyone with
> anounce of intelligence would avoid making these wild claims
> and threatsin public, "in the clear".


You mean like they have to avoidit in communist China?


> It takes very little
> today tomeet the definition of a "credible threat" whether it
> be a threaton someone's life (he told me several times to
> expect what he calleda "package" - a bomb, maybe?) or a
> --------- plot in the planning.The former is a garden variety
> felony while the latter will getyou "detained" - the modern
> euphemism for "arrested without gettingyour Miranda rights,
> with the right to a writ of habeous corpusindefinitely
> suspended, no charges ever filed, and access to legalcounsel
> denied" - all for an indefinite period. If it were me, I
> wouldn't want some guys in dark suits and sun glasses coming
>to see me some night!
>
> Meanwhile, if we could possibly geteveryone to just /stop/
> replying to him, this would all blow overrather quickly.


Request denied.



--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September2005 and April 2006

From: Mark Ferguson <washington_resident@whew.com>
Message-ID: <d1q042dt00j4oqo5qhjqtmqtlec9m71o7f@4ax.com>


>I chuckle to myself

Kadaitcha Man

All Things Mopar <nunofyour@beez.wax>, the grave digger, mewled:


> Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand
>

>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:


> Fred, I'll let you slide on repeatingmy personal info in your
> quotes. <grin>
>
> I don't knowwhat country you live in, but the place Billy Boi
> is getting allhis info from, like mine above, is President
> Bush's big E-CommerceDB from a few years ago. Most of it is
> right. The cross-referenceto the satellite photos of people's
> neighborhoods are often wrong.Some a little, as his posts of
> my sub are, some people he "identifies"are actually the wrong
> person and/or not even the totally correctname, not to
> mention the "real" attackee lives in an entirely different
> state.
>
> Billy Boi has no access to anything reallypersonal and
> confidential, no matter how loud he screams. One ofhis other
> infamous tactics is to claim he's penetrated, read, and
> compromised data on your HD. He's "done" that to me several
>times. Well, I've told him that he doesn't have access but I
> don'ttell him how I know, what I do to protect my system, or
> when I door don't get an attempted net attack.
>
> On a.b.p.a., so manyabuse reports and law enforcement
> complaints have been filed thatit really does surprise me
> that he's managed to stay out of jailand civil court for so
> long. Of course, we really don't know howmany times he's been
> indicted or sued, do we? For all we know, he'smasquerading as
> someone else from inside a Federal prison! One canonly hope.
> So, I assume the folks here who've been incorrectly
>accused/maligned in his latest round of preemtive attacks and
> incorrectretalliatory strikes have also reported him to the
> appropriate bullyboys.
>
> You know, Fred, in today's post-9/11 world here inthe U.S.,
> particularly bolstered by the strengthened and recently
> renewed Patriot Act, as well as the as yet unknown true size
>of domestic surveillance, it would seem to me that anyone with
> anounce of intelligence would avoid making these wild claims
> and threatsin public, "in the clear".


You mean like they have to avoidit in communist China?


> It takes very little
> today tomeet the definition of a "credible threat" whether it
> be a threaton someone's life (he told me several times to
> expect what he calleda "package" - a bomb, maybe?) or a
> --------- plot in the planning.The former is a garden variety
> felony while the latter will getyou "detained" - the modern
> euphemism for "arrested without gettingyour Miranda rights,
> with the right to a writ of habeous corpusindefinitely
> suspended, no charges ever filed, and access to legalcounsel
> denied" - all for an indefinite period. If it were me, I
> wouldn't want some guys in dark suits and sun glasses coming
>to see me some night!
>
> Meanwhile, if we could possibly geteveryone to just /stop/
> replying to him, this would all blow overrather quickly.


Request denied.



--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September2005 and April 2006

From: Mark Ferguson <washington_resident@whew.com>
Message-ID: <d1q042dt00j4oqo5qhjqtmqtlec9m71o7f@4ax.com>


>I chuckle to myself

Kadaitcha Man

All Things Mopar <nunofyour@beez.wax>, the grave digger, mewled:


> Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand
>

>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:24:37 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
>><----------@***.net> wrote:


> Fred, I'll let you slide on repeatingmy personal info in your
> quotes. <grin>
>
> I don't knowwhat country you live in, but the place Billy Boi
> is getting allhis info from, like mine above, is President
> Bush's big E-CommerceDB from a few years ago. Most of it is
> right. The cross-referenceto the satellite photos of people's
> neighborhoods are often wrong.Some a little, as his posts of
> my sub are, some people he "identifies"are actually the wrong
> person and/or not even the totally correctname, not to
> mention the "real" attackee lives in an entirely different
> state.
>
> Billy Boi has no access to anything reallypersonal and
> confidential, no matter how loud he screams. One ofhis other
> infamous tactics is to claim he's penetrated, read, and
> compromised data on your HD. He's "done" that to me several
>times. Well, I've told him that he doesn't have access but I
> don'ttell him how I know, what I do to protect my system, or
> when I door don't get an attempted net attack.
>
> On a.b.p.a., so manyabuse reports and law enforcement
> complaints have been filed thatit really does surprise me
> that he's managed to stay out of jailand civil court for so
> long. Of course, we really don't know howmany times he's been
> indicted or sued, do we? For all we know, he'smasquerading as
> someone else from inside a Federal prison! One canonly hope.
> So, I assume the folks here who've been incorrectly
>accused/maligned in his latest round of preemtive attacks and
> incorrectretalliatory strikes have also reported him to the
> appropriate bullyboys.
>
> You know, Fred, in today's post-9/11 world here inthe U.S.,
> particularly bolstered by the strengthened and recently
> renewed Patriot Act, as well as the as yet unknown true size
>of domestic surveillance, it would seem to me that anyone with
> anounce of intelligence would avoid making these wild claims
> and threatsin public, "in the clear".


You mean like they have to avoidit in communist China?


> It takes very little
> today tomeet the definition of a "credible threat" whether it
> be a threaton someone's life (he told me several times to
> expect what he calleda "package" - a bomb, maybe?) or a
> --------- plot in the planning.The former is a garden variety
> felony while the latter will getyou "detained" - the modern
> euphemism for "arrested without gettingyour Miranda rights,
> with the right to a writ of habeous corpusindefinitely
> suspended, no charges ever filed, and access to legalcounsel
> denied" - all for an indefinite period. If it were me, I
> wouldn't want some guys in dark suits and sun glasses coming
>to see me some night!
>
> Meanwhile, if we could possibly geteveryone to just /stop/
> replying to him, this would all blow overrather quickly.


Request denied.



--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September2005 and April 2006

From: Mark Ferguson <washington_resident@whew.com>
Message-ID: <d1q042dt00j4oqo5qhjqtmqtlec9m71o7f@4ax.com>


>I chuckle to myself

Jim Smith

"All Things Mopar" <nunofyour@beez.wax> wrote in message
news:Xns97A63D0DE798EReplyID@216.196.97.131...
> Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand
>
>
> Meanwhile, if we could possibly get everyone to just /stop/
> replying to him, this would all blow over rather quickly.
>
> --
> ATM, aka Jerry


That's the problem. He will continue regardless, because he always jumps in
and gives his Billy Boi opinion on anything and everything. You want to
know about something, anything, just post a message and wait for Billy Boi
to give you his opinion (known as Billy Boi facts). You don't even have to
ask a question, just have a discussion about something and Billy Boi will
jump in and tell you you're wrong and he's right.

He's such a small minded man, he must feel he has to give his opinion and
then defend it by personally attacking the OP.

I used to argue with him, but you can't argue with a mad man, so I've given
up. This group is not that important in my life to start a crusade against
Billy Boi. Be my guest, Billy Boi isn't that important for me to spend any
more time on his drivel.

Jim Smith

"All Things Mopar" <nunofyour@beez.wax> wrote in message
news:Xns97A63D0DE798EReplyID@216.196.97.131...
> Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand
>
>
> Meanwhile, if we could possibly get everyone to just /stop/
> replying to him, this would all blow over rather quickly.
>
> --
> ATM, aka Jerry


That's the problem. He will continue regardless, because he always jumps in
and gives his Billy Boi opinion on anything and everything. You want to
know about something, anything, just post a message and wait for Billy Boi
to give you his opinion (known as Billy Boi facts). You don't even have to
ask a question, just have a discussion about something and Billy Boi will
jump in and tell you you're wrong and he's right.

He's such a small minded man, he must feel he has to give his opinion and
then defend it by personally attacking the OP.

I used to argue with him, but you can't argue with a mad man, so I've given
up. This group is not that important in my life to start a crusade against
Billy Boi. Be my guest, Billy Boi isn't that important for me to spend any
more time on his drivel.

Jim Smith

"All Things Mopar" <nunofyour@beez.wax> wrote in message
news:Xns97A63D0DE798EReplyID@216.196.97.131...
> Today Fred Hall commented courteously on the subject at hand
>
>
> Meanwhile, if we could possibly get everyone to just /stop/
> replying to him, this would all blow over rather quickly.
>
> --
> ATM, aka Jerry


That's the problem. He will continue regardless, because he always jumps in
and gives his Billy Boi opinion on anything and everything. You want to
know about something, anything, just post a message and wait for Billy Boi
to give you his opinion (known as Billy Boi facts). You don't even have to
ask a question, just have a discussion about something and Billy Boi will
jump in and tell you you're wrong and he's right.

He's such a small minded man, he must feel he has to give his opinion and
then defend it by personally attacking the OP.

I used to argue with him, but you can't argue with a mad man, so I've given
up. This group is not that important in my life to start a crusade against
Billy Boi. Be my guest, Billy Boi isn't that important for me to spend any
more time on his drivel.