Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
On a '92 I would certainly recommend replacing the cap and rotor, if it
hasn't been done in a long time, or at all. He is saying no spark at all
when cranking. Unless the cap and rotor are real bad, that tends to point
to something else.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43986AA2.4D1C3843@sympatico.ca...
> Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.
>
> Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
> warm up they can be ok for a bit.
>
> Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....
>
> Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
> where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
> relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
> spark while cranking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
> >
> > First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
everyone else.
> > I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
> >
> > I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
when the engine is cranking.
> > I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
> >
> > In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
> >
> > Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when
the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
> >
> > I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
> >
> > Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
> >
> > Nadim
> >
> > --
> > nelkhour
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
> >
> > Send from http://www.carstalk.net
hasn't been done in a long time, or at all. He is saying no spark at all
when cranking. Unless the cap and rotor are real bad, that tends to point
to something else.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43986AA2.4D1C3843@sympatico.ca...
> Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.
>
> Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
> warm up they can be ok for a bit.
>
> Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....
>
> Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
> where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
> relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
> spark while cranking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
> >
> > First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
everyone else.
> > I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
> >
> > I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
when the engine is cranking.
> > I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
> >
> > In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
> >
> > Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when
the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
> >
> > I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
> >
> > Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
> >
> > Nadim
> >
> > --
> > nelkhour
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
> >
> > Send from http://www.carstalk.net
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
On a '92 I would certainly recommend replacing the cap and rotor, if it
hasn't been done in a long time, or at all. He is saying no spark at all
when cranking. Unless the cap and rotor are real bad, that tends to point
to something else.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43986AA2.4D1C3843@sympatico.ca...
> Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.
>
> Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
> warm up they can be ok for a bit.
>
> Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....
>
> Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
> where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
> relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
> spark while cranking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
> >
> > First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
everyone else.
> > I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
> >
> > I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
when the engine is cranking.
> > I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
> >
> > In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
> >
> > Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when
the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
> >
> > I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
> >
> > Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
> >
> > Nadim
> >
> > --
> > nelkhour
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
> >
> > Send from http://www.carstalk.net
hasn't been done in a long time, or at all. He is saying no spark at all
when cranking. Unless the cap and rotor are real bad, that tends to point
to something else.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43986AA2.4D1C3843@sympatico.ca...
> Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.
>
> Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
> warm up they can be ok for a bit.
>
> Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....
>
> Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
> where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
> relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
> spark while cranking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> nelkhour wrote:
> >
> > First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
everyone else.
> > I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
> >
> > I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
when the engine is cranking.
> > I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
> >
> > In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
> >
> > Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when
the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
> >
> > I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
> >
> > Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
> >
> > Nadim
> >
> > --
> > nelkhour
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
> >
> > Send from http://www.carstalk.net
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