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nelkhour 12-08-2005 08:03 AM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 

First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as everyone else
I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here

I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark when the engine is cranking.
I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started

In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question

Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm

I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.

Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated

Nadi

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billy ray 12-08-2005 12:15 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 
You connect the battery negative ground (-) terminal to some part of the
engine or a piece of metal bolted to the engine to check the ground straps.

You would get fireworks if you accidentally connected the positive terminal
to the engine block.




"nelkhour" <nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
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>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
> everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
> diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
> when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
> going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
> that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
> runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
> booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the
> battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the
> car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
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billy ray 12-08-2005 12:15 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 
You connect the battery negative ground (-) terminal to some part of the
engine or a piece of metal bolted to the engine to check the ground straps.

You would get fireworks if you accidentally connected the positive terminal
to the engine block.




"nelkhour" <nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
news:nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net...
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
> everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
> diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
> when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
> going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
> that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
> runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
> booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the
> battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the
> car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
> Send from http://www.carstalk.net
>




billy ray 12-08-2005 12:15 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 
You connect the battery negative ground (-) terminal to some part of the
engine or a piece of metal bolted to the engine to check the ground straps.

You would get fireworks if you accidentally connected the positive terminal
to the engine block.




"nelkhour" <nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
news:nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net...
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as
> everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it
> diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark
> when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was
> going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
> that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that
> runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
> booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the
> battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the
> car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
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>




Mike Romain 12-08-2005 12:17 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 
Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.

Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
warm up they can be ok for a bit.

Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....

Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
spark while cranking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

nelkhour wrote:
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
> Send from http://www.carstalk.net


Mike Romain 12-08-2005 12:17 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 
Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.

Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
warm up they can be ok for a bit.

Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....

Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
spark while cranking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

nelkhour wrote:
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
> Send from http://www.carstalk.net


Mike Romain 12-08-2005 12:17 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 
Use the negative and the booster cable to verify the body ground.

Bad connections can show when cold, then once they arc a bit and things
warm up they can be ok for a bit.

Bad cold starts can also easily be the distributor cap and rotor....

Another place can be a dirty connection on the starter relay. This is
where the main positive or usually red battery cable bolts on. At this
relay are a mess of small wires. If dirty, they can interfere with
spark while cranking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

nelkhour wrote:
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery? I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim
>
> --
> nelkhour
>
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> View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
>
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Jim Gemmill 12-08-2005 12:21 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 

"nelkhour" <nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
news:nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net...
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as

everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it

diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark

when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was

going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that

runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the

car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim


Try http://www.thejeep.com/manual.html



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Jim Gemmill 12-08-2005 12:21 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 

"nelkhour" <nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
news:nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net...
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as

everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it

diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark

when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was

going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that

runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the

car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim


Try http://www.thejeep.com/manual.html



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Jim Gemmill 12-08-2005 12:21 PM

Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
 

"nelkhour" <nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
news:nelkhour.1zqdde@no-mx.carstalk.net...
>
> First and foremost thanks Kate, Mike and Earle for your reply as well as

everyone else.
> I am in Doha, Qatar and Earle is right taking it somewhere to have it

diagnosed is very difficult unless I want to go to the dealer here.
>
> I have checked for spark like kate had suggested and there is no spark

when the engine is cranking.
> I did change the fuel filter, but did not check the fuel pressure. I was

going to check the rotor, distributor cap and finally the coil. I thought
that nothing is wrong with those since it runs fine once it has started.
>
> In terms of testing if there are any issues with the ground strap that

runs from the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Do I connect the
booster cable to the positive terminal or negative terminal on the battery?
I appologize if this is a stupid question.
>
> Another question, why would these not starting issue just happens when the

car has cooled sufficiently down vs. being warm?
>
> I will try and see how to get the service manual here in Doha.
>
> Again, thank you for all your help which has been very much appreciated.
>
> Nadim


Try http://www.thejeep.com/manual.html



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