Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Thanks Earle.
I cleaned out my list ... what can I say. I'm a neat freak.
KJK
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4396ea9f$0$1192$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
: Kate,
:
: Heh, he's in the "Middle East" somewhere. I imagine that taking it in to
a
: shop, capable of diagnosing a Jeep with a problem, might be a bigger
bullet
: than either you or I imagine. Nadim, I see from past posts that you have
: changed the fuel pump relay. I think the next step is to follow Kate's
: advice and look for spark when cranking. Purchase of a service manual
seems
: like an indispensable step too. I recommend the factory service manual
from
: Chrysler Corporation. It is expensive, but will have good troubleshooting
: advice for this problem.
:
: Earle
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:w7Blf.615$wP3.501@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: > I deleted several posts so I am sorry, I do not know what other replies
: > would have been to this, forgive me if I repeat something that someone
: else
: > has suggested.
: >
: > Sometimes just throwing parts at a problem can be more expensive than
: taking
: > your rig in to thew shop.
: > By throwing parts at an unknown issue, you are essentially wasting your
: time
: > and money. It may be time to bite the bullet and take it in to a shop
and
: > have it diagnosed.
: >
: > You say below that you changed the CPS "just in case you are not getting
: > spark" when the engine is running. Have you not checked for spark? That
: > there is a biggie!
: > Do you know how?
: > Get two pairs of rubber handled pliers
: > Remove a plug wire from the spark plug,
: > Pull the boot back from the tip of the plug wire if you can
: > If not use a piece of wire like a paperclip. Be sure it is bent into a U
: so
: > it will get contact. Stuff it into the end of the plug wire so it gets
: good
: > contact with the metal tip on the plug wire. Set it where it will not
: touch
: > anything metal or electrical and start the vehicle.
: > Hold the tip of the wire close to the engine block where it's metal and
: look
: > for spark.
: >
: > Have you checked your fuel pressure, fuel filter, rotor, distributor
cap,
: > coil ?
: >
: > Have you a Service manual for the beastie?
: >
: > KJK
: >
: >
: > "nelkhour" <nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
: > news:nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net...
: > :
: > : Okay, I have changed the plug wires and coil wire,
: > : I have changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor just in case since I was
: not
: > getting any spark when the engine was turning.
: > : I have changed the Starter and I am still having the same problem.
: > Whenever the car is cold or have cooled down it won't start. I have to
: wait
: > at least 5 to 10 minutes before the PCM activates things.
: > :
: > : I am thinking of changing the Camshaft position sensor next, but I am
: > weary of doing
: > : that since these parts are very expensive here in the Middle East. 1
1/2
: > to 2 times the
: > : price in the USA.
: > :
: > : I'd really appreciate any help on this matter. I am basically not sure
: > which way to go
: > : now.
: > :
: > : Thank you
: > : Nadim
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : nelkhour
: > :
: >
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > : View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
: > :
: > : Send from http://www.carstalk.net
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
I cleaned out my list ... what can I say. I'm a neat freak.
KJK
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4396ea9f$0$1192$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
: Kate,
:
: Heh, he's in the "Middle East" somewhere. I imagine that taking it in to
a
: shop, capable of diagnosing a Jeep with a problem, might be a bigger
bullet
: than either you or I imagine. Nadim, I see from past posts that you have
: changed the fuel pump relay. I think the next step is to follow Kate's
: advice and look for spark when cranking. Purchase of a service manual
seems
: like an indispensable step too. I recommend the factory service manual
from
: Chrysler Corporation. It is expensive, but will have good troubleshooting
: advice for this problem.
:
: Earle
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:w7Blf.615$wP3.501@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: > I deleted several posts so I am sorry, I do not know what other replies
: > would have been to this, forgive me if I repeat something that someone
: else
: > has suggested.
: >
: > Sometimes just throwing parts at a problem can be more expensive than
: taking
: > your rig in to thew shop.
: > By throwing parts at an unknown issue, you are essentially wasting your
: time
: > and money. It may be time to bite the bullet and take it in to a shop
and
: > have it diagnosed.
: >
: > You say below that you changed the CPS "just in case you are not getting
: > spark" when the engine is running. Have you not checked for spark? That
: > there is a biggie!
: > Do you know how?
: > Get two pairs of rubber handled pliers
: > Remove a plug wire from the spark plug,
: > Pull the boot back from the tip of the plug wire if you can
: > If not use a piece of wire like a paperclip. Be sure it is bent into a U
: so
: > it will get contact. Stuff it into the end of the plug wire so it gets
: good
: > contact with the metal tip on the plug wire. Set it where it will not
: touch
: > anything metal or electrical and start the vehicle.
: > Hold the tip of the wire close to the engine block where it's metal and
: look
: > for spark.
: >
: > Have you checked your fuel pressure, fuel filter, rotor, distributor
cap,
: > coil ?
: >
: > Have you a Service manual for the beastie?
: >
: > KJK
: >
: >
: > "nelkhour" <nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
: > news:nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net...
: > :
: > : Okay, I have changed the plug wires and coil wire,
: > : I have changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor just in case since I was
: not
: > getting any spark when the engine was turning.
: > : I have changed the Starter and I am still having the same problem.
: > Whenever the car is cold or have cooled down it won't start. I have to
: wait
: > at least 5 to 10 minutes before the PCM activates things.
: > :
: > : I am thinking of changing the Camshaft position sensor next, but I am
: > weary of doing
: > : that since these parts are very expensive here in the Middle East. 1
1/2
: > to 2 times the
: > : price in the USA.
: > :
: > : I'd really appreciate any help on this matter. I am basically not sure
: > which way to go
: > : now.
: > :
: > : Thank you
: > : Nadim
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : nelkhour
: > :
: >
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > : View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
: > :
: > : Send from http://www.carstalk.net
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#12
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Thanks Earle.
I cleaned out my list ... what can I say. I'm a neat freak.
KJK
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4396ea9f$0$1192$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
: Kate,
:
: Heh, he's in the "Middle East" somewhere. I imagine that taking it in to
a
: shop, capable of diagnosing a Jeep with a problem, might be a bigger
bullet
: than either you or I imagine. Nadim, I see from past posts that you have
: changed the fuel pump relay. I think the next step is to follow Kate's
: advice and look for spark when cranking. Purchase of a service manual
seems
: like an indispensable step too. I recommend the factory service manual
from
: Chrysler Corporation. It is expensive, but will have good troubleshooting
: advice for this problem.
:
: Earle
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:w7Blf.615$wP3.501@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: > I deleted several posts so I am sorry, I do not know what other replies
: > would have been to this, forgive me if I repeat something that someone
: else
: > has suggested.
: >
: > Sometimes just throwing parts at a problem can be more expensive than
: taking
: > your rig in to thew shop.
: > By throwing parts at an unknown issue, you are essentially wasting your
: time
: > and money. It may be time to bite the bullet and take it in to a shop
and
: > have it diagnosed.
: >
: > You say below that you changed the CPS "just in case you are not getting
: > spark" when the engine is running. Have you not checked for spark? That
: > there is a biggie!
: > Do you know how?
: > Get two pairs of rubber handled pliers
: > Remove a plug wire from the spark plug,
: > Pull the boot back from the tip of the plug wire if you can
: > If not use a piece of wire like a paperclip. Be sure it is bent into a U
: so
: > it will get contact. Stuff it into the end of the plug wire so it gets
: good
: > contact with the metal tip on the plug wire. Set it where it will not
: touch
: > anything metal or electrical and start the vehicle.
: > Hold the tip of the wire close to the engine block where it's metal and
: look
: > for spark.
: >
: > Have you checked your fuel pressure, fuel filter, rotor, distributor
cap,
: > coil ?
: >
: > Have you a Service manual for the beastie?
: >
: > KJK
: >
: >
: > "nelkhour" <nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
: > news:nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net...
: > :
: > : Okay, I have changed the plug wires and coil wire,
: > : I have changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor just in case since I was
: not
: > getting any spark when the engine was turning.
: > : I have changed the Starter and I am still having the same problem.
: > Whenever the car is cold or have cooled down it won't start. I have to
: wait
: > at least 5 to 10 minutes before the PCM activates things.
: > :
: > : I am thinking of changing the Camshaft position sensor next, but I am
: > weary of doing
: > : that since these parts are very expensive here in the Middle East. 1
1/2
: > to 2 times the
: > : price in the USA.
: > :
: > : I'd really appreciate any help on this matter. I am basically not sure
: > which way to go
: > : now.
: > :
: > : Thank you
: > : Nadim
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : nelkhour
: > :
: >
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > : View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
: > :
: > : Send from http://www.carstalk.net
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
I cleaned out my list ... what can I say. I'm a neat freak.
KJK
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4396ea9f$0$1192$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
: Kate,
:
: Heh, he's in the "Middle East" somewhere. I imagine that taking it in to
a
: shop, capable of diagnosing a Jeep with a problem, might be a bigger
bullet
: than either you or I imagine. Nadim, I see from past posts that you have
: changed the fuel pump relay. I think the next step is to follow Kate's
: advice and look for spark when cranking. Purchase of a service manual
seems
: like an indispensable step too. I recommend the factory service manual
from
: Chrysler Corporation. It is expensive, but will have good troubleshooting
: advice for this problem.
:
: Earle
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:w7Blf.615$wP3.501@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: > I deleted several posts so I am sorry, I do not know what other replies
: > would have been to this, forgive me if I repeat something that someone
: else
: > has suggested.
: >
: > Sometimes just throwing parts at a problem can be more expensive than
: taking
: > your rig in to thew shop.
: > By throwing parts at an unknown issue, you are essentially wasting your
: time
: > and money. It may be time to bite the bullet and take it in to a shop
and
: > have it diagnosed.
: >
: > You say below that you changed the CPS "just in case you are not getting
: > spark" when the engine is running. Have you not checked for spark? That
: > there is a biggie!
: > Do you know how?
: > Get two pairs of rubber handled pliers
: > Remove a plug wire from the spark plug,
: > Pull the boot back from the tip of the plug wire if you can
: > If not use a piece of wire like a paperclip. Be sure it is bent into a U
: so
: > it will get contact. Stuff it into the end of the plug wire so it gets
: good
: > contact with the metal tip on the plug wire. Set it where it will not
: touch
: > anything metal or electrical and start the vehicle.
: > Hold the tip of the wire close to the engine block where it's metal and
: look
: > for spark.
: >
: > Have you checked your fuel pressure, fuel filter, rotor, distributor
cap,
: > coil ?
: >
: > Have you a Service manual for the beastie?
: >
: > KJK
: >
: >
: > "nelkhour" <nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
: > news:nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net...
: > :
: > : Okay, I have changed the plug wires and coil wire,
: > : I have changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor just in case since I was
: not
: > getting any spark when the engine was turning.
: > : I have changed the Starter and I am still having the same problem.
: > Whenever the car is cold or have cooled down it won't start. I have to
: wait
: > at least 5 to 10 minutes before the PCM activates things.
: > :
: > : I am thinking of changing the Camshaft position sensor next, but I am
: > weary of doing
: > : that since these parts are very expensive here in the Middle East. 1
1/2
: > to 2 times the
: > : price in the USA.
: > :
: > : I'd really appreciate any help on this matter. I am basically not sure
: > which way to go
: > : now.
: > :
: > : Thank you
: > : Nadim
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : nelkhour
: > :
: >
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > : View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
: > :
: > : Send from http://www.carstalk.net
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#13
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Re: 1992 Wrangler won't start in Morning
Thanks Earle.
I cleaned out my list ... what can I say. I'm a neat freak.
KJK
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4396ea9f$0$1192$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
: Kate,
:
: Heh, he's in the "Middle East" somewhere. I imagine that taking it in to
a
: shop, capable of diagnosing a Jeep with a problem, might be a bigger
bullet
: than either you or I imagine. Nadim, I see from past posts that you have
: changed the fuel pump relay. I think the next step is to follow Kate's
: advice and look for spark when cranking. Purchase of a service manual
seems
: like an indispensable step too. I recommend the factory service manual
from
: Chrysler Corporation. It is expensive, but will have good troubleshooting
: advice for this problem.
:
: Earle
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:w7Blf.615$wP3.501@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: > I deleted several posts so I am sorry, I do not know what other replies
: > would have been to this, forgive me if I repeat something that someone
: else
: > has suggested.
: >
: > Sometimes just throwing parts at a problem can be more expensive than
: taking
: > your rig in to thew shop.
: > By throwing parts at an unknown issue, you are essentially wasting your
: time
: > and money. It may be time to bite the bullet and take it in to a shop
and
: > have it diagnosed.
: >
: > You say below that you changed the CPS "just in case you are not getting
: > spark" when the engine is running. Have you not checked for spark? That
: > there is a biggie!
: > Do you know how?
: > Get two pairs of rubber handled pliers
: > Remove a plug wire from the spark plug,
: > Pull the boot back from the tip of the plug wire if you can
: > If not use a piece of wire like a paperclip. Be sure it is bent into a U
: so
: > it will get contact. Stuff it into the end of the plug wire so it gets
: good
: > contact with the metal tip on the plug wire. Set it where it will not
: touch
: > anything metal or electrical and start the vehicle.
: > Hold the tip of the wire close to the engine block where it's metal and
: look
: > for spark.
: >
: > Have you checked your fuel pressure, fuel filter, rotor, distributor
cap,
: > coil ?
: >
: > Have you a Service manual for the beastie?
: >
: > KJK
: >
: >
: > "nelkhour" <nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
: > news:nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net...
: > :
: > : Okay, I have changed the plug wires and coil wire,
: > : I have changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor just in case since I was
: not
: > getting any spark when the engine was turning.
: > : I have changed the Starter and I am still having the same problem.
: > Whenever the car is cold or have cooled down it won't start. I have to
: wait
: > at least 5 to 10 minutes before the PCM activates things.
: > :
: > : I am thinking of changing the Camshaft position sensor next, but I am
: > weary of doing
: > : that since these parts are very expensive here in the Middle East. 1
1/2
: > to 2 times the
: > : price in the USA.
: > :
: > : I'd really appreciate any help on this matter. I am basically not sure
: > which way to go
: > : now.
: > :
: > : Thank you
: > : Nadim
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : nelkhour
: > :
: >
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > : View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
: > :
: > : Send from http://www.carstalk.net
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
I cleaned out my list ... what can I say. I'm a neat freak.
KJK
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4396ea9f$0$1192$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
: Kate,
:
: Heh, he's in the "Middle East" somewhere. I imagine that taking it in to
a
: shop, capable of diagnosing a Jeep with a problem, might be a bigger
bullet
: than either you or I imagine. Nadim, I see from past posts that you have
: changed the fuel pump relay. I think the next step is to follow Kate's
: advice and look for spark when cranking. Purchase of a service manual
seems
: like an indispensable step too. I recommend the factory service manual
from
: Chrysler Corporation. It is expensive, but will have good troubleshooting
: advice for this problem.
:
: Earle
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
: news:w7Blf.615$wP3.501@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: > I deleted several posts so I am sorry, I do not know what other replies
: > would have been to this, forgive me if I repeat something that someone
: else
: > has suggested.
: >
: > Sometimes just throwing parts at a problem can be more expensive than
: taking
: > your rig in to thew shop.
: > By throwing parts at an unknown issue, you are essentially wasting your
: time
: > and money. It may be time to bite the bullet and take it in to a shop
and
: > have it diagnosed.
: >
: > You say below that you changed the CPS "just in case you are not getting
: > spark" when the engine is running. Have you not checked for spark? That
: > there is a biggie!
: > Do you know how?
: > Get two pairs of rubber handled pliers
: > Remove a plug wire from the spark plug,
: > Pull the boot back from the tip of the plug wire if you can
: > If not use a piece of wire like a paperclip. Be sure it is bent into a U
: so
: > it will get contact. Stuff it into the end of the plug wire so it gets
: good
: > contact with the metal tip on the plug wire. Set it where it will not
: touch
: > anything metal or electrical and start the vehicle.
: > Hold the tip of the wire close to the engine block where it's metal and
: look
: > for spark.
: >
: > Have you checked your fuel pressure, fuel filter, rotor, distributor
cap,
: > coil ?
: >
: > Have you a Service manual for the beastie?
: >
: > KJK
: >
: >
: > "nelkhour" <nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net> wrote in message
: > news:nelkhour.1znyqu@no-mx.carstalk.net...
: > :
: > : Okay, I have changed the plug wires and coil wire,
: > : I have changed the Crankshaft Position Sensor just in case since I was
: not
: > getting any spark when the engine was turning.
: > : I have changed the Starter and I am still having the same problem.
: > Whenever the car is cold or have cooled down it won't start. I have to
: wait
: > at least 5 to 10 minutes before the PCM activates things.
: > :
: > : I am thinking of changing the Camshaft position sensor next, but I am
: > weary of doing
: > : that since these parts are very expensive here in the Middle East. 1
1/2
: > to 2 times the
: > : price in the USA.
: > :
: > : I'd really appreciate any help on this matter. I am basically not sure
: > which way to go
: > : now.
: > :
: > : Thank you
: > : Nadim
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : nelkhour
: > :
: >
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > : View this thread: http://www.carstalk.net/viewtopic-360641.html
: > :
: > : Send from http://www.carstalk.net
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
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