Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
09-07-2004, 03:19 PM
#51
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Now you are the one full of ----!
I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
or 70+ mph!
These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com (MontanaJeeper) wrote in message news:<c1e32590.0409032047.47a6d58e@posting.google. com>...
> > larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0409021909.1a6e6839@posting.google. com>...
> > > Here's why Bill is ----ed between the ears:
> >
> > ya know....because of the manner in which you have presented your
> > argument you lost before i got past your subject header.
>
> Yeah, I hate to be ignorant like that, but it was obvious reason,
> common sense and a polite appeal to reality were getting nowhere, and
> fast. He was posting total nonsense. No propane installation ever
> froze up at WOT. It, as far as I can determine, never happened, and
> really couldn't. Then he comes up with this stuff about Nitrous Oxide.
> So what was I to do?
I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
or 70+ mph!
These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com (MontanaJeeper) wrote in message news:<c1e32590.0409032047.47a6d58e@posting.google. com>...
> > larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0409021909.1a6e6839@posting.google. com>...
> > > Here's why Bill is ----ed between the ears:
> >
> > ya know....because of the manner in which you have presented your
> > argument you lost before i got past your subject header.
>
> Yeah, I hate to be ignorant like that, but it was obvious reason,
> common sense and a polite appeal to reality were getting nowhere, and
> fast. He was posting total nonsense. No propane installation ever
> froze up at WOT. It, as far as I can determine, never happened, and
> really couldn't. Then he comes up with this stuff about Nitrous Oxide.
> So what was I to do?
09-07-2004, 03:19 PM
#52
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Now you are the one full of ----!
I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
or 70+ mph!
These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com (MontanaJeeper) wrote in message news:<c1e32590.0409032047.47a6d58e@posting.google. com>...
> > larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0409021909.1a6e6839@posting.google. com>...
> > > Here's why Bill is ----ed between the ears:
> >
> > ya know....because of the manner in which you have presented your
> > argument you lost before i got past your subject header.
>
> Yeah, I hate to be ignorant like that, but it was obvious reason,
> common sense and a polite appeal to reality were getting nowhere, and
> fast. He was posting total nonsense. No propane installation ever
> froze up at WOT. It, as far as I can determine, never happened, and
> really couldn't. Then he comes up with this stuff about Nitrous Oxide.
> So what was I to do?
I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
or 70+ mph!
These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> montanajeeper@aol.com (MontanaJeeper) wrote in message news:<c1e32590.0409032047.47a6d58e@posting.google. com>...
> > larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0409021909.1a6e6839@posting.google. com>...
> > > Here's why Bill is ----ed between the ears:
> >
> > ya know....because of the manner in which you have presented your
> > argument you lost before i got past your subject header.
>
> Yeah, I hate to be ignorant like that, but it was obvious reason,
> common sense and a polite appeal to reality were getting nowhere, and
> fast. He was posting total nonsense. No propane installation ever
> froze up at WOT. It, as far as I can determine, never happened, and
> really couldn't. Then he comes up with this stuff about Nitrous Oxide.
> So what was I to do?
09-08-2004, 10:57 AM
#53
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, DougW wrote:
[snip fore and aft]
> density of the air/fuel charge. For almost all NO installations the
> injection is under the TB or carb. For a propane retrofit it is always
> before the TB or carb. That's the issue. Given the right conditions a
> propane vehicle will cool the intake air enough to cause ice to form on
> the butterfly.
Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
[snip fore and aft]
> density of the air/fuel charge. For almost all NO installations the
> injection is under the TB or carb. For a propane retrofit it is always
> before the TB or carb. That's the issue. Given the right conditions a
> propane vehicle will cool the intake air enough to cause ice to form on
> the butterfly.
Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
09-08-2004, 10:57 AM
#54
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, DougW wrote:
[snip fore and aft]
> density of the air/fuel charge. For almost all NO installations the
> injection is under the TB or carb. For a propane retrofit it is always
> before the TB or carb. That's the issue. Given the right conditions a
> propane vehicle will cool the intake air enough to cause ice to form on
> the butterfly.
Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
[snip fore and aft]
> density of the air/fuel charge. For almost all NO installations the
> injection is under the TB or carb. For a propane retrofit it is always
> before the TB or carb. That's the issue. Given the right conditions a
> propane vehicle will cool the intake air enough to cause ice to form on
> the butterfly.
Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
09-08-2004, 10:57 AM
#55
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, DougW wrote:
[snip fore and aft]
> density of the air/fuel charge. For almost all NO installations the
> injection is under the TB or carb. For a propane retrofit it is always
> before the TB or carb. That's the issue. Given the right conditions a
> propane vehicle will cool the intake air enough to cause ice to form on
> the butterfly.
Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
[snip fore and aft]
> density of the air/fuel charge. For almost all NO installations the
> injection is under the TB or carb. For a propane retrofit it is always
> before the TB or carb. That's the issue. Given the right conditions a
> propane vehicle will cool the intake air enough to cause ice to form on
> the butterfly.
Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
09-08-2004, 03:46 PM
#56
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<413E09BB.307E2038@sympatico.ca>...
> Now you are the one full of ----!
>
> I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
> or 70+ mph!
>
> These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
>
Hardly the fault of propane then,was it? (Shades of Monty Python's
stunned parrot....)
Yes, it happens, more often a linkage problem than anything else. But
this was about propane specific throttle freezeups.
> Now you are the one full of ----!
>
> I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
> or 70+ mph!
>
> These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
>
Hardly the fault of propane then,was it? (Shades of Monty Python's
stunned parrot....)
Yes, it happens, more often a linkage problem than anything else. But
this was about propane specific throttle freezeups.
09-08-2004, 03:46 PM
#57
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<413E09BB.307E2038@sympatico.ca>...
> Now you are the one full of ----!
>
> I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
> or 70+ mph!
>
> These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
>
Hardly the fault of propane then,was it? (Shades of Monty Python's
stunned parrot....)
Yes, it happens, more often a linkage problem than anything else. But
this was about propane specific throttle freezeups.
> Now you are the one full of ----!
>
> I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
> or 70+ mph!
>
> These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
>
Hardly the fault of propane then,was it? (Shades of Monty Python's
stunned parrot....)
Yes, it happens, more often a linkage problem than anything else. But
this was about propane specific throttle freezeups.
09-08-2004, 03:46 PM
#58
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<413E09BB.307E2038@sympatico.ca>...
> Now you are the one full of ----!
>
> I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
> or 70+ mph!
>
> These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
>
Hardly the fault of propane then,was it? (Shades of Monty Python's
stunned parrot....)
Yes, it happens, more often a linkage problem than anything else. But
this was about propane specific throttle freezeups.
> Now you are the one full of ----!
>
> I have been in two different vehicles and had the throttle freeze at WOT
> or 70+ mph!
>
> These didn't even have propane, they were carbs.
>
Hardly the fault of propane then,was it? (Shades of Monty Python's
stunned parrot....)
Yes, it happens, more often a linkage problem than anything else. But
this was about propane specific throttle freezeups.
09-08-2004, 04:24 PM
#59
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Aside from the cold why do carbureted airplane engines freeze up at high
altitude? I thought at high altitude there was very little moisture?
>Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
>my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
>always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
>when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
>it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
>
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
altitude? I thought at high altitude there was very little moisture?
>Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
>my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
>always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
>when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
>it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
>
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
09-08-2004, 04:24 PM
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Re: Quit Being A Goddamn Idiot, Bill ------!!
Aside from the cold why do carbureted airplane engines freeze up at high
altitude? I thought at high altitude there was very little moisture?
>Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
>my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
>always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
>when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
>it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
>
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
altitude? I thought at high altitude there was very little moisture?
>Given the right weather conditions (cool and humid) the previous engine in
>my `79 CJ-5 would occasionally ice up the throttle butterfly. It was
>always a little exciting when it would happen, because I'd only notice
>when I was trying to take _off_ speed and the gas pedal would stay where
>it was. I'd have to give it more throttle to get it unstuck.
>
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)