quick question sway bar links
#121
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Re: quick question sway bar links
The TJ loses that cushy ride for offroad axle control.
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SB wrote:
>
> Did that guy yank the rear coils and put in leafs? but left the coils in
> front?
>
> Looks cool....what are the driving differences having that?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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SB wrote:
>
> Did that guy yank the rear coils and put in leafs? but left the coils in
> front?
>
> Looks cool....what are the driving differences having that?
#122
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Re: quick question sway bar links
TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but do
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
#123
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: quick question sway bar links
TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but do
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
#124
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: quick question sway bar links
TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but do
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
#125
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: quick question sway bar links
TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but do
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which
is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would
be very unsafe.
Sean
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> TK sliders
>
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
>
> http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
the rockshop
> at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
disconnects
> >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing
> >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
situation
> >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> >>
> >>Sean
> >>99TJ
> >>00XJ
> >>
> >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> >>> slight turn you make.
> >>>
> >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't
> >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves.
> >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive
> >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget
> >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> >>> disconnected on the road.
> >>>
> >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> >>> > you just take them right off??
> >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
club
> >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
trail.I've
> >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
them.
> >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> >>> >
> >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> >>> > > -Brian
> >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> >>remove
> >>> > the
> >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > : tia
> >>> > > : Snow
> >>> > > :
> >>> > > :
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>
>
#126
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: quick question sway bar links
I speak from experience...TK sliders aren't worth the money. They're noisy,
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
#127
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: quick question sway bar links
I speak from experience...TK sliders aren't worth the money. They're noisy,
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
#128
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: quick question sway bar links
I speak from experience...TK sliders aren't worth the money. They're noisy,
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
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Re: quick question sway bar links
I speak from experience...TK sliders aren't worth the money. They're noisy,
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any
real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect.
--
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
"Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c6eeo1$b7q42$1@ID-137890.news.uni-berlin.de...
> TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but
do
> not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar
would(which
> is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached
would
> be very unsafe.
>
> Sean
>
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:hhqj8094e9vkf4tvr1g5gsb9c29iq7d0po@4ax.com...
> > TK sliders
> >
> > http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...tksliders2.htm
> >
> > http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that
> the rockshop
> > at rockcrawler.com carries them too.
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:00:01 -0700, "Sean Prinz" <s_prinz@msn.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even
> > >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling
> disconnects
> > >>for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends
removing
> > >>them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber
> situation
> > >>would be the shocks. Not me.
> > >>
> > >>Sean
> > >>99TJ
> > >>00XJ
> > >>
> > >>"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:47b769ae.0404230756.1426359d@posting.google .com...
> > >>> While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the
> > >>> swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first
> > >>> slight turn you make.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You
> > >>> definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you
don't
> > >>> go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the
> > >>> road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance
moves.
> > >>> If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more
> > >>> unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle
it
> > >>> ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just
> > >>> bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do
drive
> > >>> extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out
> > >>> there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll
> > >>> without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an
> > >>> accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I
forget
> > >>> to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before
> > >>> proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it
> > >>> disconnected on the road.
> > >>>
> > >>> So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jeff" <jrhiltz@av.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > >>news:<hO%hc.31812$kc2.450150@nnrp1.uunet.ca>.. .
> > >>> > you just take them right off??
> > >>> > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep
> club
> > >>> > Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the
> trail.I've
> > >>> > never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without
> them.
> > >>> > What probs can I encounter??
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ThankYou, Jeff
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> > >>> > > T55 . . removed mine today.
> > >>> > > -Brian
> > >>> > > "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > news:3YXhc.33532$CO3.1142695@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > >>> > > : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to
> > >>remove
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > : bolt on the sway bar link?
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > : tia
> > >>> > > : Snow
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > > :
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>
> >
>
>
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