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Re: Question Electric fan
Dale Beckett wrote:
> > Mike Romain says... > > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the 'glass > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > > > > long.... > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > [] > > > > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough to break > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in the way > > > of mounting :) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Dale Beckett > > > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with 1/8" > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > > > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > > > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally soft > > and flexes like mad. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly to > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility of > interference. > > -- > > Dale Beckett That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until next summer.... Mike |
Re: Question Electric fan
Dale Beckett wrote:
> > Mike Romain says... > > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the 'glass > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > > > > long.... > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > [] > > > > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough to break > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in the way > > > of mounting :) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Dale Beckett > > > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with 1/8" > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > > > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > > > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally soft > > and flexes like mad. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly to > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility of > interference. > > -- > > Dale Beckett That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until next summer.... Mike |
Re: Question Electric fan
The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn on
even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause it's so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a second as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so it's a good foot away from the radiator. Nick "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the 'glass > > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > > > > > long.... > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > [] > > > > > > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough to break > > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in the way > > > > of mounting :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Dale Beckett > > > > > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with 1/8" > > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > > > > > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > > > > > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally soft > > > and flexes like mad. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly to > > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility of > > interference. > > > > -- > > > > Dale Beckett > > That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should > clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until > next summer.... > > Mike |
Re: Question Electric fan
The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn on
even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause it's so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a second as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so it's a good foot away from the radiator. Nick "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the 'glass > > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > > > > > long.... > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > [] > > > > > > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough to break > > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in the way > > > > of mounting :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Dale Beckett > > > > > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with 1/8" > > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > > > > > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > > > > > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally soft > > > and flexes like mad. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly to > > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility of > > interference. > > > > -- > > > > Dale Beckett > > That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should > clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until > next summer.... > > Mike |
Re: Question Electric fan
The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn on
even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause it's so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a second as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so it's a good foot away from the radiator. Nick "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > Dale Beckett wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike Romain says... > > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the 'glass > > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > > > > > long.... > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > [] > > > > > > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough to break > > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in the way > > > > of mounting :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Dale Beckett > > > > > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with 1/8" > > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > > > > > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > > > > > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally soft > > > and flexes like mad. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly to > > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility of > > interference. > > > > -- > > > > Dale Beckett > > That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should > clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until > next summer.... > > Mike |
Re: Question Electric fan
If you don't want this fan 'after-run' you can wire it so it only gets power
when the ignition is on. This is what I did with my first electric fan in an '84 -- Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. .. "Nick" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message news:G4V1f.736$UF4.362@fed1read02... > The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn > on > even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will > continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good > battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause > it's > so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a > second > as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the > fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so > it's a good foot away from the radiator. > Nick > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... >> Dale Beckett wrote: >> > >> > Mike Romain says... >> > > Dale Beckett wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Mike Romain says... >> > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the > 'glass >> > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very >> > > > > long.... >> > > > > >> > > > > Mike >> > > > > [] >> > > > >> > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough > to break >> > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in > the way >> > > > of mounting :) >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > Dale Beckett >> > > >> > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with > 1/8" >> > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. >> > > >> > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. >> > > >> > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally > soft >> > > and flexes like mad. >> > > >> > > Mike >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > > >> > >> > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly > to >> > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility > of >> > interference. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Dale Beckett >> >> That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should >> clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until >> next summer.... >> >> Mike > > |
Re: Question Electric fan
If you don't want this fan 'after-run' you can wire it so it only gets power
when the ignition is on. This is what I did with my first electric fan in an '84 -- Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. .. "Nick" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message news:G4V1f.736$UF4.362@fed1read02... > The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn > on > even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will > continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good > battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause > it's > so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a > second > as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the > fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so > it's a good foot away from the radiator. > Nick > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... >> Dale Beckett wrote: >> > >> > Mike Romain says... >> > > Dale Beckett wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Mike Romain says... >> > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the > 'glass >> > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very >> > > > > long.... >> > > > > >> > > > > Mike >> > > > > [] >> > > > >> > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough > to break >> > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in > the way >> > > > of mounting :) >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > Dale Beckett >> > > >> > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with > 1/8" >> > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. >> > > >> > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. >> > > >> > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally > soft >> > > and flexes like mad. >> > > >> > > Mike >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > > >> > >> > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly > to >> > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility > of >> > interference. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Dale Beckett >> >> That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should >> clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until >> next summer.... >> >> Mike > > |
Re: Question Electric fan
If you don't want this fan 'after-run' you can wire it so it only gets power
when the ignition is on. This is what I did with my first electric fan in an '84 -- Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. .. "Nick" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message news:G4V1f.736$UF4.362@fed1read02... > The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn > on > even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will > continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good > battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause > it's > so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a > second > as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the > fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so > it's a good foot away from the radiator. > Nick > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... >> Dale Beckett wrote: >> > >> > Mike Romain says... >> > > Dale Beckett wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Mike Romain says... >> > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the > 'glass >> > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very >> > > > > long.... >> > > > > >> > > > > Mike >> > > > > [] >> > > > >> > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough > to break >> > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in > the way >> > > > of mounting :) >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > Dale Beckett >> > > >> > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with > 1/8" >> > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. >> > > >> > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. >> > > >> > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally > soft >> > > and flexes like mad. >> > > >> > > Mike >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > > >> > >> > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly > to >> > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility > of >> > interference. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Dale Beckett >> >> That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should >> clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until >> next summer.... >> >> Mike > > |
Re: Question Electric fan
Heh, if you do that, and you shut off a hot engine, it will blow steam
bubbles into the radiator overflow tank. That is why they wire them the way they do. Earle "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:577d4$43482738$d8449845$20889@FUSE.NET... > If you don't want this fan 'after-run' you can wire it so it only gets power > when the ignition is on. This is what I did with my first electric fan in > an '84 > > -- > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. > . > "Nick" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message > news:G4V1f.736$UF4.362@fed1read02... > > The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn > > on > > even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will > > continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good > > battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause > > it's > > so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a > > second > > as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the > > fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so > > it's a good foot away from the radiator. > > Nick > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... > >> Dale Beckett wrote: > >> > > >> > Mike Romain says... > >> > > Dale Beckett wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Mike Romain says... > >> > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the > > 'glass > >> > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > >> > > > > long.... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Mike > >> > > > > [] > >> > > > > >> > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough > > to break > >> > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in > > the way > >> > > > of mounting :) > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > > >> > > > Dale Beckett > >> > > > >> > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with > > 1/8" > >> > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > >> > > > >> > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > >> > > > >> > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally > > soft > >> > > and flexes like mad. > >> > > > >> > > Mike > >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> > > > >> > > >> > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly > > to > >> > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility > > of > >> > interference. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Dale Beckett > >> > >> That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should > >> clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until > >> next summer.... > >> > >> Mike > > > > > > > |
Re: Question Electric fan
Heh, if you do that, and you shut off a hot engine, it will blow steam
bubbles into the radiator overflow tank. That is why they wire them the way they do. Earle "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:577d4$43482738$d8449845$20889@FUSE.NET... > If you don't want this fan 'after-run' you can wire it so it only gets power > when the ignition is on. This is what I did with my first electric fan in > an '84 > > -- > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM) > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be. > . > "Nick" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message > news:G4V1f.736$UF4.362@fed1read02... > > The electric fan does run alot quiter than the mechanicle. It will turn > > on > > even after you shut your jeep off though, which is ok becuase it will > > continue to cool even after your parked. Just make sure you have a good > > battery. When I'm driving the only way I can tell it's come on (cause > > it's > > so quite) is that if I'm at a stop light, the jeep will shimmy for a > > second > > as the engine revs go up a spot to supply the electricity to turn on the > > fan. My fan is mounted in the very back of the shroud, near the engine so > > it's a good foot away from the radiator. > > Nick > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:43481B02.5651FD6E@sympatico.ca... > >> Dale Beckett wrote: > >> > > >> > Mike Romain says... > >> > > Dale Beckett wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Mike Romain says... > >> > > > > You have seen the photo of how bad I twist up my CJ with the > > 'glass > >> > > > > body..... I don't think I could keep a shroud in one piece very > >> > > > > long.... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Mike > >> > > > > [] > >> > > > > >> > > > The shroud attaches to the core. If you're flexing the core enough > > to break > >> > > > the shroud, then you really need to come up with something else in > > the way > >> > > > of mounting :) > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > > >> > > > Dale Beckett > >> > > > >> > > I broke the straps on the side of my core and had to fix them with > > 1/8" > >> > > x 1 1/4" straps I welded on top of them full length. > >> > > > >> > > I think the fan will take out the shroud. > >> > > > >> > > I really need a new frame to stiffen it back up, mine is terminally > > soft > >> > > and flexes like mad. > >> > > > >> > > Mike > >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >> > > > >> > > >> > Oh, I see. I was thinking in terms of an electric fan mounted directly > > to > >> > the shroud. It would move with the shroud, eliminating the possibility > > of > >> > interference. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Dale Beckett > >> > >> That is becoming an interesting option. I have a fixed fan so it should > >> clear up a few HP too. It is now turning winter, so no worries until > >> next summer.... > >> > >> Mike > > > > > > > |
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