Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
#31
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
That was interesting but obviously in French, which makes me wonder did
Jeep sell any flat head sixes in the US or were they just for export?
Jeff DeWitt
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Jeep used a flathead four and six cylinder engines:
> http://perso.orange.fr/morbius/jeep....orisation.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?
>>
>>For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
>>partly a flat head.
>>
>>It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
>>Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
>>have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.
>>
>>Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
>>the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
>>races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.
>>
>>There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
>>that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
>>increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
>>parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
>>carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
>>ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.
>>
>>To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
>>is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
>>give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
>> those upgrades.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Simon Juncal wrote:
>>
>>>What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
>>>get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>>>
>>>Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>>>
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Jeep sell any flat head sixes in the US or were they just for export?
Jeff DeWitt
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Jeep used a flathead four and six cylinder engines:
> http://perso.orange.fr/morbius/jeep....orisation.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?
>>
>>For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
>>partly a flat head.
>>
>>It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
>>Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
>>have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.
>>
>>Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
>>the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
>>races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.
>>
>>There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
>>that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
>>increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
>>parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
>>carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
>>ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.
>>
>>To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
>>is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
>>give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
>> those upgrades.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Simon Juncal wrote:
>>
>>>What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
>>>get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>>>
>>>Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>>>
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#32
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
except for the fleet owners.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> About fifty.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> >
> > half the wieght is going to have some impact regardless of aerodynamics
> > and again this has got zip to do with the question. which was:
> >
> > What kind of MPG do old ****** engine's get and which of them was best
> > in that regard...
> >
> > Not
> > "what is your opinion of trying to get good MPG out of a ******"
> > Fun
I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
except for the fleet owners.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B18B03.6216EA49@***.net...
> About fifty.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> >
> > half the wieght is going to have some impact regardless of aerodynamics
> > and again this has got zip to do with the question. which was:
> >
> > What kind of MPG do old ****** engine's get and which of them was best
> > in that regard...
> >
> > Not
> > "what is your opinion of trying to get good MPG out of a ******"
> > Fun
#33
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
except for the fleet owners.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B18B03.6216EA49@***.net...
> About fifty.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> >
> > half the wieght is going to have some impact regardless of aerodynamics
> > and again this has got zip to do with the question. which was:
> >
> > What kind of MPG do old ****** engine's get and which of them was best
> > in that regard...
> >
> > Not
> > "what is your opinion of trying to get good MPG out of a ******"
> > Fun
I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
except for the fleet owners.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B18B03.6216EA49@***.net...
> About fifty.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> >
> > half the wieght is going to have some impact regardless of aerodynamics
> > and again this has got zip to do with the question. which was:
> >
> > What kind of MPG do old ****** engine's get and which of them was best
> > in that regard...
> >
> > Not
> > "what is your opinion of trying to get good MPG out of a ******"
> > Fun
#34
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
except for the fleet owners.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B18B03.6216EA49@***.net...
> About fifty.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> >
> > half the wieght is going to have some impact regardless of aerodynamics
> > and again this has got zip to do with the question. which was:
> >
> > What kind of MPG do old ****** engine's get and which of them was best
> > in that regard...
> >
> > Not
> > "what is your opinion of trying to get good MPG out of a ******"
> > Fun
I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
except for the fleet owners.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44B18B03.6216EA49@***.net...
> About fifty.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> >
> > half the wieght is going to have some impact regardless of aerodynamics
> > and again this has got zip to do with the question. which was:
> >
> > What kind of MPG do old ****** engine's get and which of them was best
> > in that regard...
> >
> > Not
> > "what is your opinion of trying to get good MPG out of a ******"
> > Fun
#35
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Hi Earle,
Of course: http://www.----------.com/dana18.jpg tongue in cheek.
Actually they did care about mileage, gasoline at twenty cents was still
the most expensive, by volume product they would by. Brochures of the
time would be around thirty miles to the gallon:
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Nash/...52-12_JPG.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
>
> I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
> it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
> pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
> except for the fleet owners.
>
> Earle
Of course: http://www.----------.com/dana18.jpg tongue in cheek.
Actually they did care about mileage, gasoline at twenty cents was still
the most expensive, by volume product they would by. Brochures of the
time would be around thirty miles to the gallon:
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Nash/...52-12_JPG.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
>
> I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
> it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
> pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
> except for the fleet owners.
>
> Earle
#36
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Hi Earle,
Of course: http://www.----------.com/dana18.jpg tongue in cheek.
Actually they did care about mileage, gasoline at twenty cents was still
the most expensive, by volume product they would by. Brochures of the
time would be around thirty miles to the gallon:
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Nash/...52-12_JPG.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
>
> I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
> it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
> pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
> except for the fleet owners.
>
> Earle
Of course: http://www.----------.com/dana18.jpg tongue in cheek.
Actually they did care about mileage, gasoline at twenty cents was still
the most expensive, by volume product they would by. Brochures of the
time would be around thirty miles to the gallon:
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Nash/...52-12_JPG.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
>
> I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
> it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
> pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
> except for the fleet owners.
>
> Earle
#37
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Hi Earle,
Of course: http://www.----------.com/dana18.jpg tongue in cheek.
Actually they did care about mileage, gasoline at twenty cents was still
the most expensive, by volume product they would by. Brochures of the
time would be around thirty miles to the gallon:
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Nash/...52-12_JPG.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
>
> I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
> it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
> pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
> except for the fleet owners.
>
> Earle
Of course: http://www.----------.com/dana18.jpg tongue in cheek.
Actually they did care about mileage, gasoline at twenty cents was still
the most expensive, by volume product they would by. Brochures of the
time would be around thirty miles to the gallon:
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Nash/...52-12_JPG.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Now is that with, or without, the optional overdrive? ;^)
>
> I wonder if the USPS would have this information, and if they would share
> it? Postal Jeeps were a lot like real Jeeps, except for a couple hundred
> pounds less of running gear. Back in the Day, no one cared about mileage,
> except for the fleet owners.
>
> Earle
#38
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Simon, this might be a good place to get started.
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Jeff DeWitt
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Jeff DeWitt
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>
#39
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Simon, this might be a good place to get started.
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Jeff DeWitt
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Jeff DeWitt
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>
#40
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Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
Simon, this might be a good place to get started.
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Jeff DeWitt
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Jeff DeWitt
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>