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Simon Juncal 07-08-2006 10:17 AM

Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
get? What was the best engine for mileage?

Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Jeff DeWitt 07-08-2006 11:53 PM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?

For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
partly a flat head.

It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.

Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.

There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.

To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
those upgrades.

Jeff DeWitt

Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>


Jeff DeWitt 07-08-2006 11:53 PM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?

For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
partly a flat head.

It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.

Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.

There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.

To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
those upgrades.

Jeff DeWitt

Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>


Jeff DeWitt 07-08-2006 11:53 PM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?

For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
partly a flat head.

It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.

Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.

There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.

To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
those upgrades.

Jeff DeWitt

Simon Juncal wrote:
> What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> get? What was the best engine for mileage?
>
> Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
>


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-09-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
Jeep used a flathead four and six cylinder engines:
http://perso.orange.fr/morbius/jeep....orisation.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?
>
> For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
> partly a flat head.
>
> It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
> Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
> have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.
>
> Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
> the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
> races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.
>
> There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
> that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
> increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
> parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
> carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
> ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.
>
> To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
> is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
> give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
> those upgrades.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> > What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> > get? What was the best engine for mileage?
> >
> > Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
> >


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-09-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
Jeep used a flathead four and six cylinder engines:
http://perso.orange.fr/morbius/jeep....orisation.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?
>
> For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
> partly a flat head.
>
> It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
> Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
> have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.
>
> Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
> the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
> races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.
>
> There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
> that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
> increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
> parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
> carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
> ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.
>
> To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
> is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
> give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
> those upgrades.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> > What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> > get? What was the best engine for mileage?
> >
> > Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
> >


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 07-09-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
Jeep used a flathead four and six cylinder engines:
http://perso.orange.fr/morbius/jeep....orisation.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Did they ever put a flat head six in a Jeep?
>
> For that matter was there ever a flat head four? The F head is only
> partly a flat head.
>
> It really depends on the engine and the car itself. I used to have a 57
> Studebaker wagon with a flat head six, NEAT car but both it an I would
> have been a lot happier with a Stude 259 V8 in it.
>
> Again, I only have experience with Studebakers but an early Lark with a
> the six and overdrive will get in the low 20's. You won't win any drag
> races but it will get you there and will keep up with modern traffic.
>
> There are also things you can do, there is a conversion kit available
> that enables the use of a more modern 2bbl carburetor and it actually
> increases both power and gas mileage. Then you can also get performance
> parts but I suspect that would defeat your purpose... although with that
> carb conversion, a mild compression increase, and with electronic
> ignition I bet that same Lark could approach 30 MPG.
>
> To stay on topic I understand that same little Studebaker Champion six
> is pretty much a direct bolt in replacement for the F head and would
> give you better performance and possibly better mileage, especially with
> those upgrades.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> > What kind of mileage could the old small displacment 4 and 6 flatties
> > get? What was the best engine for mileage?
> >
> > Contemplating a resto-daily driver flattie
> >


Simon Juncal 07-09-2006 10:28 AM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
By flattie I mean Flat fender Jeep, a Willys MB up to a CJ2a, so what
I'm asking is which of the old extremely light weight WWII era Jeeps got
the best MPG?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal 07-09-2006 10:28 AM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
By flattie I mean Flat fender Jeep, a Willys MB up to a CJ2a, so what
I'm asking is which of the old extremely light weight WWII era Jeeps got
the best MPG?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal 07-09-2006 10:28 AM

Re: Q for the old timers (Flat fender fuel mileage)
 
By flattie I mean Flat fender Jeep, a Willys MB up to a CJ2a, so what
I'm asking is which of the old extremely light weight WWII era Jeeps got
the best MPG?

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein


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