putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
02-03-2004, 03:16 PM
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putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
how feasible a swap is.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
how feasible a swap is.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
02-03-2004, 03:40 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:402001AA.9080004@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings?
no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
the rear as well.
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
message news:402001AA.9080004@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings?
no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
the rear as well.
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
02-03-2004, 03:40 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:402001AA.9080004@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings?
no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
the rear as well.
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
message news:402001AA.9080004@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings?
no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
the rear as well.
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
02-03-2004, 03:40 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:402001AA.9080004@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings?
no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
the rear as well.
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
message news:402001AA.9080004@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings?
no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
the rear as well.
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
02-03-2004, 04:06 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
Hi Sandman,
Except, Simon wanted to be able to climb hills. You know like a
Real Jeep. I'm sure you've recorded all the Off road events, note the
ones that make it past the obstacles and up the hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
> the rear as well.
>
> great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
> suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
> frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
> that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
> think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
Except, Simon wanted to be able to climb hills. You know like a
Real Jeep. I'm sure you've recorded all the Off road events, note the
ones that make it past the obstacles and up the hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
> the rear as well.
>
> great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
> suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
> frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
> that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
> think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
02-03-2004, 04:06 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
Hi Sandman,
Except, Simon wanted to be able to climb hills. You know like a
Real Jeep. I'm sure you've recorded all the Off road events, note the
ones that make it past the obstacles and up the hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
> the rear as well.
>
> great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
> suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
> frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
> that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
> think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
Except, Simon wanted to be able to climb hills. You know like a
Real Jeep. I'm sure you've recorded all the Off road events, note the
ones that make it past the obstacles and up the hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
> the rear as well.
>
> great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
> suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
> frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
> that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
> think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
02-03-2004, 04:06 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
Hi Sandman,
Except, Simon wanted to be able to climb hills. You know like a
Real Jeep. I'm sure you've recorded all the Off road events, note the
ones that make it past the obstacles and up the hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
> the rear as well.
>
> great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
> suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
> frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
> that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
> think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
Except, Simon wanted to be able to climb hills. You know like a
Real Jeep. I'm sure you've recorded all the Off road events, note the
ones that make it past the obstacles and up the hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> no, you will need the housings as well, at _least_ on the front and id bet
> the rear as well.
>
> great idea if youre talking housings. even better if youre talking
> suspension. if youre going to do all that though, just swap in the entire
> frame with the axles/suspension included. course, if youre going through
> that much trouble you might as well use the existing drive train. come to
> think of it, you could just buy a rubi. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
02-03-2004, 04:36 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
Hi Simon,
The rear Rubi Tru-Lok is also a limited slip diff. The front is not.
Both are 30 spline, so either one will fit your D44 axles and housing.
They won't fit in your D30.
http://www.mufflerbearings.com/rubicon.htm
Note that the Tru-Lok is the same size as a 3.73 and numerically lower
carrier. This means that if you don't have the 4.10 gears that came with
it, or you want to go to 4.56 or 4.88, you have to get a 'thick' ring
gear. R&P sets with the thick ring gear are hard to find used and cost
at least US$200 new.
Anyone out there know where I can find some used 4.10 gears from a
Rubicon? I've got a Tru-Lok and I'm looking for a set.
Steve
90 XJ
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
> compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
> something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
> bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
> with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
>
The rear Rubi Tru-Lok is also a limited slip diff. The front is not.
Both are 30 spline, so either one will fit your D44 axles and housing.
They won't fit in your D30.
http://www.mufflerbearings.com/rubicon.htm
Note that the Tru-Lok is the same size as a 3.73 and numerically lower
carrier. This means that if you don't have the 4.10 gears that came with
it, or you want to go to 4.56 or 4.88, you have to get a 'thick' ring
gear. R&P sets with the thick ring gear are hard to find used and cost
at least US$200 new.
Anyone out there know where I can find some used 4.10 gears from a
Rubicon? I've got a Tru-Lok and I'm looking for a set.
Steve
90 XJ
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
> compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
> something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
> bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
> with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
>
02-03-2004, 04:36 PM
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
Hi Simon,
The rear Rubi Tru-Lok is also a limited slip diff. The front is not.
Both are 30 spline, so either one will fit your D44 axles and housing.
They won't fit in your D30.
http://www.mufflerbearings.com/rubicon.htm
Note that the Tru-Lok is the same size as a 3.73 and numerically lower
carrier. This means that if you don't have the 4.10 gears that came with
it, or you want to go to 4.56 or 4.88, you have to get a 'thick' ring
gear. R&P sets with the thick ring gear are hard to find used and cost
at least US$200 new.
Anyone out there know where I can find some used 4.10 gears from a
Rubicon? I've got a Tru-Lok and I'm looking for a set.
Steve
90 XJ
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
> compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
> something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
> bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
> with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
>
The rear Rubi Tru-Lok is also a limited slip diff. The front is not.
Both are 30 spline, so either one will fit your D44 axles and housing.
They won't fit in your D30.
http://www.mufflerbearings.com/rubicon.htm
Note that the Tru-Lok is the same size as a 3.73 and numerically lower
carrier. This means that if you don't have the 4.10 gears that came with
it, or you want to go to 4.56 or 4.88, you have to get a 'thick' ring
gear. R&P sets with the thick ring gear are hard to find used and cost
at least US$200 new.
Anyone out there know where I can find some used 4.10 gears from a
Rubicon? I've got a Tru-Lok and I'm looking for a set.
Steve
90 XJ
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
> compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
> something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
> bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
> with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
>
02-03-2004, 04:36 PM
#10
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Re: putting Rubicon axles/lockers in a YJ?
Hi Simon,
The rear Rubi Tru-Lok is also a limited slip diff. The front is not.
Both are 30 spline, so either one will fit your D44 axles and housing.
They won't fit in your D30.
http://www.mufflerbearings.com/rubicon.htm
Note that the Tru-Lok is the same size as a 3.73 and numerically lower
carrier. This means that if you don't have the 4.10 gears that came with
it, or you want to go to 4.56 or 4.88, you have to get a 'thick' ring
gear. R&P sets with the thick ring gear are hard to find used and cost
at least US$200 new.
Anyone out there know where I can find some used 4.10 gears from a
Rubicon? I've got a Tru-Lok and I'm looking for a set.
Steve
90 XJ
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
> compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
> something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
> bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
> with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
>
The rear Rubi Tru-Lok is also a limited slip diff. The front is not.
Both are 30 spline, so either one will fit your D44 axles and housing.
They won't fit in your D30.
http://www.mufflerbearings.com/rubicon.htm
Note that the Tru-Lok is the same size as a 3.73 and numerically lower
carrier. This means that if you don't have the 4.10 gears that came with
it, or you want to go to 4.56 or 4.88, you have to get a 'thick' ring
gear. R&P sets with the thick ring gear are hard to find used and cost
at least US$200 new.
Anyone out there know where I can find some used 4.10 gears from a
Rubicon? I've got a Tru-Lok and I'm looking for a set.
Steve
90 XJ
Simon Juncal wrote:
> What are the prospects for doing this assuming I can eventually find a
> wrecked rubicon? Can you swap the axles and differentials into a YJ D44
> and D30 axle housings? If not are their any alternate routs? If the
> compressor that activates the lockers basically an AC compressor? or
> something smaller (if it only need 5PSI to switch the lockers on,
> bolting an AC compressor on the engine would seem like a waste on a Jeep
> with no AC. I'm definitely in newbie land with something like this, but
> I like the rubicon's air locker/limited slip TruTrack. So I'm wondering
> how feasible a swap is.
>