Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
08-18-2003, 08:03 AM
#11
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Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
I seem to remember that changing to the newer style of condenser is supposed
to help with the help of a rotary a/c compressor.
I converted a 92 Jetta (rotary compressor) to R134a after installing a new
"stock" condenser and receiver/dryer and am very happy with the results.
I converted an Audi 4000S (piston compressor) to R134a and it is about as
weak as it was with R12. :-(
It also had received a new condenser recently and a new receiver/dryer.
I have to repair my 88 GW's a/c system and convert to R134a. I think it
needs the compressor removed, oil drained out and system flushed. Maybe
next year. :-)
later,
dave
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bhma0u$uvb7$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when it came
> time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant or
air
> leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice valve.
> I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed too,
then
> you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to R12
> some day.
>
> Earle
>
to help with the help of a rotary a/c compressor.
I converted a 92 Jetta (rotary compressor) to R134a after installing a new
"stock" condenser and receiver/dryer and am very happy with the results.
I converted an Audi 4000S (piston compressor) to R134a and it is about as
weak as it was with R12. :-(
It also had received a new condenser recently and a new receiver/dryer.
I have to repair my 88 GW's a/c system and convert to R134a. I think it
needs the compressor removed, oil drained out and system flushed. Maybe
next year. :-)
later,
dave
"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bhma0u$uvb7$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when it came
> time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant or
air
> leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice valve.
> I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed too,
then
> you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to R12
> some day.
>
> Earle
>
08-18-2003, 08:24 PM
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Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
LOL the death kit. Someone tried that on my motorhome before I got it and
black death ensued. The orifice was a big nasty black mess.
KH
"Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit from
> Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now without
any
> problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to make
an
> offer.
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05...
> > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole new
> > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines, everything. I
> > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine.
> >
> > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even
when
> > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134 in
> > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If I
do
> > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors
different
> in
> > design from R134 ones?
> > KH
> >
> > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when
it
> > came
> > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant
> or
> > > air
> > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice
> > valve.
> > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed
> too,
> > > then
> > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to
> R12
> > > > some day.
> > >
> > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot day
here
> > in
> > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the black
one
> > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's
> Mercedes
> > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as when
it
> > was
> > > running on R12...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
black death ensued. The orifice was a big nasty black mess.
KH
"Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit from
> Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now without
any
> problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to make
an
> offer.
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05...
> > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole new
> > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines, everything. I
> > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine.
> >
> > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even
when
> > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134 in
> > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If I
do
> > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors
different
> in
> > design from R134 ones?
> > KH
> >
> > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year when
it
> > came
> > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no refrigerant
> or
> > > air
> > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering orifice
> > valve.
> > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be disappointed
> too,
> > > then
> > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban back to
> R12
> > > > some day.
> > >
> > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot day
here
> > in
> > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the black
one
> > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's
> Mercedes
> > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as when
it
> > was
> > > running on R12...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-20-2003, 10:58 AM
#13
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Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Too far. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on that stuff either.
KH
"Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
news:aJh0b.149612$It4.76590@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> Florida... The conversion kit truly worked like a champ.
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:r6e0b.4889$Qy4.44@fed1read05...
> > Where do you live?
> >
> > "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> > > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit
> from
> > > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now
without
> > any
> > > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to
> make
> > an
> > > offer.
> > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05...
> > > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole
> new
> > > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines,
everything.
> I
> > > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine.
> > > >
> > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even
> > when
> > > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134
in
> > > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If
I
> > do
> > > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors
> > different
> > > in
> > > > design from R134 ones?
> > > > KH
> > > >
> > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year
when
> > it
> > > > came
> > > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no
> refrigerant
> > > or
> > > > > air
> > > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering
> orifice
> > > > valve.
> > > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be
disappointed
> > > too,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban
back
> to
> > > R12
> > > > > > some day.
> > > > >
> > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot
day
> > here
> > > > in
> > > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the
black
> > one
> > > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's
> > > Mercedes
> > > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as
> when
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > running on R12...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
KH
"Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
news:aJh0b.149612$It4.76590@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> Florida... The conversion kit truly worked like a champ.
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:r6e0b.4889$Qy4.44@fed1read05...
> > Where do you live?
> >
> > "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> > > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit
> from
> > > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now
without
> > any
> > > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to
> make
> > an
> > > offer.
> > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05...
> > > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole
> new
> > > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines,
everything.
> I
> > > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine.
> > > >
> > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even
> > when
> > > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134
in
> > > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If
I
> > do
> > > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors
> > different
> > > in
> > > > design from R134 ones?
> > > > KH
> > > >
> > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year
when
> > it
> > > > came
> > > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no
> refrigerant
> > > or
> > > > > air
> > > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering
> orifice
> > > > valve.
> > > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be
disappointed
> > > too,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban
back
> to
> > > R12
> > > > > > some day.
> > > > >
> > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot
day
> > here
> > > > in
> > > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the
black
> > one
> > > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's
> > > Mercedes
> > > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as
> when
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > running on R12...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-20-2003, 10:58 AM
#14
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Re: Putting R134 in my 88 XJ
Too far. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on that stuff either.
KH
"Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
news:aJh0b.149612$It4.76590@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> Florida... The conversion kit truly worked like a champ.
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:r6e0b.4889$Qy4.44@fed1read05...
> > Where do you live?
> >
> > "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> > > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit
> from
> > > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now
without
> > any
> > > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to
> make
> > an
> > > offer.
> > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05...
> > > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole
> new
> > > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines,
everything.
> I
> > > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine.
> > > >
> > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even
> > when
> > > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134
in
> > > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If
I
> > do
> > > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors
> > different
> > > in
> > > > design from R134 ones?
> > > > KH
> > > >
> > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year
when
> > it
> > > > came
> > > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no
> refrigerant
> > > or
> > > > > air
> > > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering
> orifice
> > > > valve.
> > > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be
disappointed
> > > too,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban
back
> to
> > > R12
> > > > > > some day.
> > > > >
> > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot
day
> > here
> > > > in
> > > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the
black
> > one
> > > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's
> > > Mercedes
> > > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as
> when
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > running on R12...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
KH
"Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
news:aJh0b.149612$It4.76590@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> Florida... The conversion kit truly worked like a champ.
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:r6e0b.4889$Qy4.44@fed1read05...
> > Where do you live?
> >
> > "Wildman" <mjswildman@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:Yzc0b.148191$It4.74317@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net...
> > > I converted my 93 XJ to R134 and it works great. I bought a 40.00 kit
> from
> > > Walmart and it works great. I have been using it for 2years now
without
> > any
> > > problems... Also, I have 10 cans of R12 left over if anyone wants to
> make
> > an
> > > offer.
> > > "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0vX%a.4718$Qy4.274@fed1read05...
> > > > I drove my E350 ford 460 motorhome today in the heat. It has a whole
> new
> > > > r134 system in it. New compressor, receiver, dryer, lines,
everything.
> I
> > > > paid 1000 bucks to get it done. It seems to be cooling just fine.
> > > >
> > > > One thing about the XJ. Its under hood temperatures are insane. Even
> > when
> > > > the engine is only running at 190 or 200 degrees. I wonder if R134
in
> > > > combination with hood vents or something would make a difference. If
I
> > do
> > > > the R134 the I can do the work myself. Hmm. Are R12 compressors
> > different
> > > in
> > > > design from R134 ones?
> > > > KH
> > > >
> > > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > news:P0G%a.174126$XV.9188786@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > > > > "Earle Horton" wrote ...
> > > > > > My Suburban had already been converted to R134a, so this year
when
> > it
> > > > came
> > > > > > time to fix all the leaks I used R134a again. I have no
> refrigerant
> > > or
> > > > > air
> > > > > > leaks, a like new blower, and a new compressor and metering
> orifice
> > > > valve.
> > > > > > I am disappointed with the result. If you want to be
disappointed
> > > too,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > you could convert to R134a! I may just convert the Suburban
back
> to
> > > R12
> > > > > > some day.
> > > > >
> > > > > My '95 XJ has the R134 stuff... Cools well enough even on a hot
day
> > here
> > > > in
> > > > > Houston... Looking back, I probably shouldn't have bought the
black
> > one
> > > > > though... Black cars are not all that smart down here... Grace's
> > > Mercedes
> > > > > was converted to the R134 stuff and it seems to cool as quick as
> when
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > running on R12...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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