Put on another Inch, steering slop?
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction in
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction in
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction in
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction in
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another draglink
that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
threads holding the whole mess together.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
> shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
7-8".
> I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
> alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
moving?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
orientation
> > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > >
> > > Now for the problems!
> > >
> > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> straight.
> > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > >
> > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > anything.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
When i stop, the wheel remains mostly as off center as it was when I was
driving. However, when stopped, if I center the wheel the wheels remain
straight.
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:CX6Ve.14371$uD6.5371@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction
in
> the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
> movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
>
> Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
> wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
> drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another
draglink
> that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
> one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
> threads holding the whole mess together.
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> > I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1"
of
> > shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
> 7-8".
> > I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a
bad
> > alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
> moving?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> > news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
> orientation
> > > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > > >
> > > > Now for the problems!
> > > >
> > > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> > straight.
> > > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the
right.
> > > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
driving. However, when stopped, if I center the wheel the wheels remain
straight.
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:CX6Ve.14371$uD6.5371@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction
in
> the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
> movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
>
> Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
> wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
> drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another
draglink
> that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
> one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
> threads holding the whole mess together.
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> > I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1"
of
> > shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
> 7-8".
> > I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a
bad
> > alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
> moving?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> > news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
> orientation
> > > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > > >
> > > > Now for the problems!
> > > >
> > > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> > straight.
> > > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the
right.
> > > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Posts: n/a
Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
When i stop, the wheel remains mostly as off center as it was when I was
driving. However, when stopped, if I center the wheel the wheels remain
straight.
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:CX6Ve.14371$uD6.5371@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction
in
> the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
> movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
>
> Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
> wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
> drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another
draglink
> that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
> one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
> threads holding the whole mess together.
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> > I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1"
of
> > shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
> 7-8".
> > I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a
bad
> > alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
> moving?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> > news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
> orientation
> > > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > > >
> > > > Now for the problems!
> > > >
> > > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> > straight.
> > > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the
right.
> > > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
driving. However, when stopped, if I center the wheel the wheels remain
straight.
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:CX6Ve.14371$uD6.5371@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction
in
> the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
> movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
>
> Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
> wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
> drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another
draglink
> that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
> one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
> threads holding the whole mess together.
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> > I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1"
of
> > shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
> 7-8".
> > I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a
bad
> > alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
> moving?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> > news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
> orientation
> > > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > > >
> > > > Now for the problems!
> > > >
> > > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> > straight.
> > > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the
right.
> > > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
When i stop, the wheel remains mostly as off center as it was when I was
driving. However, when stopped, if I center the wheel the wheels remain
straight.
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:CX6Ve.14371$uD6.5371@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction
in
> the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
> movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
>
> Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
> wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
> drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another
draglink
> that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
> one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
> threads holding the whole mess together.
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> > I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1"
of
> > shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
> 7-8".
> > I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a
bad
> > alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
> moving?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> > news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
> orientation
> > > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > > >
> > > > Now for the problems!
> > > >
> > > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> > straight.
> > > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the
right.
> > > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
driving. However, when stopped, if I center the wheel the wheels remain
straight.
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:CX6Ve.14371$uD6.5371@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> I don't really know. Maybe when you are at rest there is enough friction
in
> the tires, and enough flex in the steering components to allow wheel
> movement without tire movement. Once you start to move, things "settle".
>
> Are you saying that if you are driving along on a straight and level, your
> wheel is off center, but as soon as you stop it moves back to center?
> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> I'd take a look-see at the draglink. I know when I did my SOA I added a
> drop pitman to get it back to decent angle, and had to get another
draglink
> that had more adjustment length to it. By the time I adjusted the factory
> one out to where my wheel was centered, there were only about 1/2" of
> threads holding the whole mess together.
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hZmdnfrzZdWZeLneRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> > I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1"
of
> > shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about
> 7-8".
> > I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a
bad
> > alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or
> moving?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> > news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> > > Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> > > effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the
> orientation
> > > of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > > > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> > > >
> > > > Now for the problems!
> > > >
> > > > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
> > straight.
> > > > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the
right.
> > > > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
