Put on another Inch, steering slop?
09-11-2005, 07:03 PM
#1
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Put on another Inch, steering slop?
Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
Now for the problems!
When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
TIA
Carl
Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
Now for the problems!
When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
TIA
Carl
09-11-2005, 07:11 PM
#2
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
You have a spring U bolt that is loose or a centering pin that has
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
09-11-2005, 07:11 PM
#3
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
You have a spring U bolt that is loose or a centering pin that has
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
09-11-2005, 07:11 PM
#4
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
You have a spring U bolt that is loose or a centering pin that has
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
09-11-2005, 07:11 PM
#5
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
You have a spring U bolt that is loose or a centering pin that has
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
snapped by those symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Pulled my stock packs out of my 89 YJ SOA today. Had 8 more good stock
> packs. I pulled the 4 not as good mains out and stuck them in good stock
> packs after cutting the spring eyes off. I also added a short leaf to both.
> This gives me 7 leaf rears, and 6 leaf fronts.
>
> We didn't measure, but it looks like it added about an inch to an inch and a
> half. I wasn't going for height, but cool! What I was going for was spring
> longevity with the addedd mains, and to clear my drag link better with the
> short leaves up front. The rear short leaves are to match the front's. I did
> gain the clearance I needed for my drag link, and the rear now sits a little
> higher than the front. The springs now have an arch.
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes, anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
09-11-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
09-11-2005, 10:07 PM
#7
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
09-11-2005, 10:07 PM
#8
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
09-11-2005, 10:07 PM
#9
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Posts: n/a
Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
>
> Now for the problems!
>
> When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires straight.
> When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
>
> Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
anything.
>
> TIA
>
> Carl
>
>
>
09-11-2005, 10:16 PM
#10
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Re: Put on another Inch, steering slop?
I all ready did a spring-over on it, lifting it 5.5". It's also got 1" of
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
shackle lift, giving it 6.5". Now with the new springs, it's at about 7-8".
I put a 4" drop pitman arm on to correct the steering. Usually with a bad
alignment, isn't the steering off ALL the time? ie, when stopped or moving?
Carl
"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:Sp5Ve.14351$uD6.821@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Haven't you in actually "lifted" your vehicle, thereby changing the
> effective length of the draglink, which is going to affect the orientation
> of "straight ahead" in relation to steering wheel position?
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xY6dndkIwrNXKrneRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> > Since when does 1 more inch cause steering problems?
> >
> > Now for the problems!
> >
> > When the Jeep is on the ground, steering wheel straight = tires
straight.
> > When the Jeep is moving, the steering wheel is 1/4 turn to the right.
> > Braking it doesn't pull. Do I just need an alignment?
> >
> > Other than that, everything works great. No DW, bumpsteer, vibes,
> anything.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
>