Project beginning
05-07-2004, 10:13 PM
#31
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Re: Project beginning
i hear ya! i'm going throught that right now...the budget keeps getting
bigger 'cause i keep adding stuff to replace while the whole thing is
apart....i'm pretty much going to replace every seal and gasket there is.
after almost 20 years, some of this stuff just ain't working too well!
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405070935470.15636@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> If you are getting a new tub, save your old one as a reference. Even tubs
> that are supposed to be pre-drilled will lack some holes and it is a whole
> lot easier to go out behind the garage with a tape than to drive down to
> the junkyard. Think: Oh, crap. They didn't drill the mounting and
> plumbing holes for the heater box.
>
> Like other posters suggested, a camera or sketch pad to document
> assemblies that you might not come back to for months will be a lifesaver
> (Oh, crap! Was this the left side or the right?). Lacking a digital
> camera I used those disposable cardboard ones and the local cheapie photo
> shop -- it is also nice to be able to go back and see what it looked like
> after you are done. White tape and a Sharpie marker helped me keep track
> of some parts. Large baggies for small parts or hardware came in handy
> too. A few times I simply wired the baggies to larger parts and sent them
> to the "clean it up and put it back together later" parts pile.
>
> When I ressurected (not really a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation) my `79 CJ-5 I found that my 4 1/2" grinder was a favorite
> tool. Buy a big handful of cut-off wheels and a handful of medium-grit
> flap sanders.
>
> While it is apart, you'll probably find that you should replace all the
> tubing. If it is in your budget I suggest buying pre-bent stainless brake
> tubing. I did, but I bent my own fuel lines and it nearly drove me to
> drink -- and that was with the tub off.
>
> A handful of taps will come in handy for cleaning up threaded holes.
>
> If your tub is that rusty, be sure to check the last two feet of your
> frame. Whack the inside of the box hard with a hammer. If it breaks
> through you were going to want to repair that part anyway. Replacement
> rear crossmember/bumpers are available mail order.
>
> As a reference, I spent two years and change redoing my -5, but I went
> through everything down to the last nut, bolt and washer. YMMV, but the
> temptation to "fix this now while I've got it apart, oh, and this, and
> that doesn't look so good..." can be irresistable.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to remove the rusty tub on my 85 cj7 and begin the
> > project. I'm not sure if I'm getting a fiberglass tub or used steel, but
> > eith way I'm removing the old one and having the frame painted. I need
to
> > know what tools I should have on hand prior to the task. I have a set of
> > tools for most back yard operations and an air compressor - what else
"must
> > have" tools should I get.
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
bigger 'cause i keep adding stuff to replace while the whole thing is
apart....i'm pretty much going to replace every seal and gasket there is.
after almost 20 years, some of this stuff just ain't working too well!
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405070935470.15636@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> If you are getting a new tub, save your old one as a reference. Even tubs
> that are supposed to be pre-drilled will lack some holes and it is a whole
> lot easier to go out behind the garage with a tape than to drive down to
> the junkyard. Think: Oh, crap. They didn't drill the mounting and
> plumbing holes for the heater box.
>
> Like other posters suggested, a camera or sketch pad to document
> assemblies that you might not come back to for months will be a lifesaver
> (Oh, crap! Was this the left side or the right?). Lacking a digital
> camera I used those disposable cardboard ones and the local cheapie photo
> shop -- it is also nice to be able to go back and see what it looked like
> after you are done. White tape and a Sharpie marker helped me keep track
> of some parts. Large baggies for small parts or hardware came in handy
> too. A few times I simply wired the baggies to larger parts and sent them
> to the "clean it up and put it back together later" parts pile.
>
> When I ressurected (not really a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation) my `79 CJ-5 I found that my 4 1/2" grinder was a favorite
> tool. Buy a big handful of cut-off wheels and a handful of medium-grit
> flap sanders.
>
> While it is apart, you'll probably find that you should replace all the
> tubing. If it is in your budget I suggest buying pre-bent stainless brake
> tubing. I did, but I bent my own fuel lines and it nearly drove me to
> drink -- and that was with the tub off.
>
> A handful of taps will come in handy for cleaning up threaded holes.
>
> If your tub is that rusty, be sure to check the last two feet of your
> frame. Whack the inside of the box hard with a hammer. If it breaks
> through you were going to want to repair that part anyway. Replacement
> rear crossmember/bumpers are available mail order.
>
> As a reference, I spent two years and change redoing my -5, but I went
> through everything down to the last nut, bolt and washer. YMMV, but the
> temptation to "fix this now while I've got it apart, oh, and this, and
> that doesn't look so good..." can be irresistable.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to remove the rusty tub on my 85 cj7 and begin the
> > project. I'm not sure if I'm getting a fiberglass tub or used steel, but
> > eith way I'm removing the old one and having the frame painted. I need
to
> > know what tools I should have on hand prior to the task. I have a set of
> > tools for most back yard operations and an air compressor - what else
"must
> > have" tools should I get.
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
05-07-2004, 10:13 PM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Project beginning
i hear ya! i'm going throught that right now...the budget keeps getting
bigger 'cause i keep adding stuff to replace while the whole thing is
apart....i'm pretty much going to replace every seal and gasket there is.
after almost 20 years, some of this stuff just ain't working too well!
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405070935470.15636@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> If you are getting a new tub, save your old one as a reference. Even tubs
> that are supposed to be pre-drilled will lack some holes and it is a whole
> lot easier to go out behind the garage with a tape than to drive down to
> the junkyard. Think: Oh, crap. They didn't drill the mounting and
> plumbing holes for the heater box.
>
> Like other posters suggested, a camera or sketch pad to document
> assemblies that you might not come back to for months will be a lifesaver
> (Oh, crap! Was this the left side or the right?). Lacking a digital
> camera I used those disposable cardboard ones and the local cheapie photo
> shop -- it is also nice to be able to go back and see what it looked like
> after you are done. White tape and a Sharpie marker helped me keep track
> of some parts. Large baggies for small parts or hardware came in handy
> too. A few times I simply wired the baggies to larger parts and sent them
> to the "clean it up and put it back together later" parts pile.
>
> When I ressurected (not really a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation) my `79 CJ-5 I found that my 4 1/2" grinder was a favorite
> tool. Buy a big handful of cut-off wheels and a handful of medium-grit
> flap sanders.
>
> While it is apart, you'll probably find that you should replace all the
> tubing. If it is in your budget I suggest buying pre-bent stainless brake
> tubing. I did, but I bent my own fuel lines and it nearly drove me to
> drink -- and that was with the tub off.
>
> A handful of taps will come in handy for cleaning up threaded holes.
>
> If your tub is that rusty, be sure to check the last two feet of your
> frame. Whack the inside of the box hard with a hammer. If it breaks
> through you were going to want to repair that part anyway. Replacement
> rear crossmember/bumpers are available mail order.
>
> As a reference, I spent two years and change redoing my -5, but I went
> through everything down to the last nut, bolt and washer. YMMV, but the
> temptation to "fix this now while I've got it apart, oh, and this, and
> that doesn't look so good..." can be irresistable.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to remove the rusty tub on my 85 cj7 and begin the
> > project. I'm not sure if I'm getting a fiberglass tub or used steel, but
> > eith way I'm removing the old one and having the frame painted. I need
to
> > know what tools I should have on hand prior to the task. I have a set of
> > tools for most back yard operations and an air compressor - what else
"must
> > have" tools should I get.
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
bigger 'cause i keep adding stuff to replace while the whole thing is
apart....i'm pretty much going to replace every seal and gasket there is.
after almost 20 years, some of this stuff just ain't working too well!
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405070935470.15636@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> If you are getting a new tub, save your old one as a reference. Even tubs
> that are supposed to be pre-drilled will lack some holes and it is a whole
> lot easier to go out behind the garage with a tape than to drive down to
> the junkyard. Think: Oh, crap. They didn't drill the mounting and
> plumbing holes for the heater box.
>
> Like other posters suggested, a camera or sketch pad to document
> assemblies that you might not come back to for months will be a lifesaver
> (Oh, crap! Was this the left side or the right?). Lacking a digital
> camera I used those disposable cardboard ones and the local cheapie photo
> shop -- it is also nice to be able to go back and see what it looked like
> after you are done. White tape and a Sharpie marker helped me keep track
> of some parts. Large baggies for small parts or hardware came in handy
> too. A few times I simply wired the baggies to larger parts and sent them
> to the "clean it up and put it back together later" parts pile.
>
> When I ressurected (not really a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation) my `79 CJ-5 I found that my 4 1/2" grinder was a favorite
> tool. Buy a big handful of cut-off wheels and a handful of medium-grit
> flap sanders.
>
> While it is apart, you'll probably find that you should replace all the
> tubing. If it is in your budget I suggest buying pre-bent stainless brake
> tubing. I did, but I bent my own fuel lines and it nearly drove me to
> drink -- and that was with the tub off.
>
> A handful of taps will come in handy for cleaning up threaded holes.
>
> If your tub is that rusty, be sure to check the last two feet of your
> frame. Whack the inside of the box hard with a hammer. If it breaks
> through you were going to want to repair that part anyway. Replacement
> rear crossmember/bumpers are available mail order.
>
> As a reference, I spent two years and change redoing my -5, but I went
> through everything down to the last nut, bolt and washer. YMMV, but the
> temptation to "fix this now while I've got it apart, oh, and this, and
> that doesn't look so good..." can be irresistable.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to remove the rusty tub on my 85 cj7 and begin the
> > project. I'm not sure if I'm getting a fiberglass tub or used steel, but
> > eith way I'm removing the old one and having the frame painted. I need
to
> > know what tools I should have on hand prior to the task. I have a set of
> > tools for most back yard operations and an air compressor - what else
"must
> > have" tools should I get.
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
05-07-2004, 10:13 PM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Project beginning
i hear ya! i'm going throught that right now...the budget keeps getting
bigger 'cause i keep adding stuff to replace while the whole thing is
apart....i'm pretty much going to replace every seal and gasket there is.
after almost 20 years, some of this stuff just ain't working too well!
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405070935470.15636@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> If you are getting a new tub, save your old one as a reference. Even tubs
> that are supposed to be pre-drilled will lack some holes and it is a whole
> lot easier to go out behind the garage with a tape than to drive down to
> the junkyard. Think: Oh, crap. They didn't drill the mounting and
> plumbing holes for the heater box.
>
> Like other posters suggested, a camera or sketch pad to document
> assemblies that you might not come back to for months will be a lifesaver
> (Oh, crap! Was this the left side or the right?). Lacking a digital
> camera I used those disposable cardboard ones and the local cheapie photo
> shop -- it is also nice to be able to go back and see what it looked like
> after you are done. White tape and a Sharpie marker helped me keep track
> of some parts. Large baggies for small parts or hardware came in handy
> too. A few times I simply wired the baggies to larger parts and sent them
> to the "clean it up and put it back together later" parts pile.
>
> When I ressurected (not really a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation) my `79 CJ-5 I found that my 4 1/2" grinder was a favorite
> tool. Buy a big handful of cut-off wheels and a handful of medium-grit
> flap sanders.
>
> While it is apart, you'll probably find that you should replace all the
> tubing. If it is in your budget I suggest buying pre-bent stainless brake
> tubing. I did, but I bent my own fuel lines and it nearly drove me to
> drink -- and that was with the tub off.
>
> A handful of taps will come in handy for cleaning up threaded holes.
>
> If your tub is that rusty, be sure to check the last two feet of your
> frame. Whack the inside of the box hard with a hammer. If it breaks
> through you were going to want to repair that part anyway. Replacement
> rear crossmember/bumpers are available mail order.
>
> As a reference, I spent two years and change redoing my -5, but I went
> through everything down to the last nut, bolt and washer. YMMV, but the
> temptation to "fix this now while I've got it apart, oh, and this, and
> that doesn't look so good..." can be irresistable.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to remove the rusty tub on my 85 cj7 and begin the
> > project. I'm not sure if I'm getting a fiberglass tub or used steel, but
> > eith way I'm removing the old one and having the frame painted. I need
to
> > know what tools I should have on hand prior to the task. I have a set of
> > tools for most back yard operations and an air compressor - what else
"must
> > have" tools should I get.
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
bigger 'cause i keep adding stuff to replace while the whole thing is
apart....i'm pretty much going to replace every seal and gasket there is.
after almost 20 years, some of this stuff just ain't working too well!
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405070935470.15636@panix3.pani x.com...
>
> If you are getting a new tub, save your old one as a reference. Even tubs
> that are supposed to be pre-drilled will lack some holes and it is a whole
> lot easier to go out behind the garage with a tape than to drive down to
> the junkyard. Think: Oh, crap. They didn't drill the mounting and
> plumbing holes for the heater box.
>
> Like other posters suggested, a camera or sketch pad to document
> assemblies that you might not come back to for months will be a lifesaver
> (Oh, crap! Was this the left side or the right?). Lacking a digital
> camera I used those disposable cardboard ones and the local cheapie photo
> shop -- it is also nice to be able to go back and see what it looked like
> after you are done. White tape and a Sharpie marker helped me keep track
> of some parts. Large baggies for small parts or hardware came in handy
> too. A few times I simply wired the baggies to larger parts and sent them
> to the "clean it up and put it back together later" parts pile.
>
> When I ressurected (not really a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation) my `79 CJ-5 I found that my 4 1/2" grinder was a favorite
> tool. Buy a big handful of cut-off wheels and a handful of medium-grit
> flap sanders.
>
> While it is apart, you'll probably find that you should replace all the
> tubing. If it is in your budget I suggest buying pre-bent stainless brake
> tubing. I did, but I bent my own fuel lines and it nearly drove me to
> drink -- and that was with the tub off.
>
> A handful of taps will come in handy for cleaning up threaded holes.
>
> If your tub is that rusty, be sure to check the last two feet of your
> frame. Whack the inside of the box hard with a hammer. If it breaks
> through you were going to want to repair that part anyway. Replacement
> rear crossmember/bumpers are available mail order.
>
> As a reference, I spent two years and change redoing my -5, but I went
> through everything down to the last nut, bolt and washer. YMMV, but the
> temptation to "fix this now while I've got it apart, oh, and this, and
> that doesn't look so good..." can be irresistable.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to remove the rusty tub on my 85 cj7 and begin the
> > project. I'm not sure if I'm getting a fiberglass tub or used steel, but
> > eith way I'm removing the old one and having the frame painted. I need
to
> > know what tools I should have on hand prior to the task. I have a set of
> > tools for most back yard operations and an air compressor - what else
"must
> > have" tools should I get.
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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