Powdercoat on body exterior?
06-27-2004, 09:33 PM
#1
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Powdercoat on body exterior?
Hey Everyone,
I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
think?
Thanks,
Don W
I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
think?
Thanks,
Don W
06-27-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Just curious, What is the cost?
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-27-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Just curious, What is the cost?
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-27-2004, 10:41 PM
#4
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Just curious, What is the cost?
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-27-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Just curious, What is the cost?
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
"Would this be something i could use on the exterior side?"
Motorcycles are powdercoated all the time so why not?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
If you decide to get the powder coat on the exterior of the hood, make sure
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 01:17 PM
#7
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
If you decide to get the powder coat on the exterior of the hood, make sure
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 01:17 PM
#8
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
If you decide to get the powder coat on the exterior of the hood, make sure
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 01:17 PM
#9
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
If you decide to get the powder coat on the exterior of the hood, make sure
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
it is UV tolerant so it doesn't fade. Also make sure he does a good
phosphate etch on a clean surface so the powder coat will cross link and
bond to the surface correctly. 90% of powder coat failures are from lack of
proper prep. If it isn't done correctly the cured powder coat can peal off
in a giant sheet. Also, plug up all threaded holes.
Personally, if I could afford it I would do an entire jeep in powder coat.
The only draw back to a powder coat finish on cars in general is touch up
and matching colors. Something I wouldn't worry about in a jeep. If the
powder coat is applied correctly to a 4" square sample you can fold it
completely in half and back again and the powder will not pull away from the
metal. Much better than wet paint any day.
Also, there are tons of new colors with metal flake, candy clear coats etc
that are amazing.
Tqm
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 04:08 PM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
At this time no powder is being used as a topcoat on OEM vehicles, the only
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
