Powdercoat on body exterior?
06-28-2004, 04:08 PM
#11
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
At this time no powder is being used as a topcoat on OEM vehicles, the only
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 04:08 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
At this time no powder is being used as a topcoat on OEM vehicles, the only
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-28-2004, 04:08 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
At this time no powder is being used as a topcoat on OEM vehicles, the only
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
exception is some Mercedes which is a powder clear over the water base coat.
Most OEM powders are primer surfacers on an OEM level over Electrocoat. You
can use powder for the exterior as most of the trim components (metal/ cast-
luggage racks, pillars, door handles) are indeed powder (polyester and
acrylics). The problem I see is that the metal needs to be nice and straight
and will allow for a high heat (350-400f) bake. You do not have a chance to
'straighten' the metal with powder, primers and surfacers allow you to do
just that prior to color. Will it work? yes. Would I? depends on how picky
you are regarding color match/ OEM system.
Oh ya, Acrylics will have more UV durabilty than polyesters but are less
flexible. As stated earlier, surface prep is key.
Tom
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040627213339.11581.00000698@mb-m11.aol.com...
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good
shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I
took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the
underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be
something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you
guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
06-29-2004, 01:37 AM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
06-29-2004, 01:37 AM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
06-29-2004, 01:37 AM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
06-29-2004, 01:37 AM
#17
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
Don Wallish wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
> Hey Everyone,
> I got a used hood for my Scrambler. The reast of the body is in good shape,
> the black paint is still shiny, but a little rust showing in spots. I took the
> hood to the metal shop to have the whole thing sandblasted and the underside
> powdercoated. He showed me a very shiny gloss black. Would this be something
> i could use on the exterior side? I'll ask him tomorrow, but what do you guys
> think?
>
> Thanks,
> Don W
>
I'd bedliner the underside of the hood and just use a good urathane
paint on the outside. Keep in mind that a Jeep hood is a pretty flat
piece of metal and the heat curing of powder coatings might warp it into
a taco shaped piece of metal that won't look good even if it IS really
shiney.
Good luck,
- Jeff G
06-29-2004, 10:01 PM
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Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
An update....
I stopped at the shop yesterday.... the boss had my hood done, at least the
underside. It looks great! The top had been blasted to bare metal, i can
paint it. He said he's not sure if he can do a gloss urethane on the topside,
because it's gotta be baked 50 degrees hotter than the underside. He's gonna
look into that for me.
So far i've invested $105 into this project. Hood cost $25, sandblasting
cost $50 (two layers of undersoat PLUS primer and paint, no wonder i couldn't
sand it!!!) and $25 to have the hood taped and coated on the bottom. I
completely trust his judgement. He's been doing this work for a while, and
everything i've sent to him comes out fantastic.
Don W
I stopped at the shop yesterday.... the boss had my hood done, at least the
underside. It looks great! The top had been blasted to bare metal, i can
paint it. He said he's not sure if he can do a gloss urethane on the topside,
because it's gotta be baked 50 degrees hotter than the underside. He's gonna
look into that for me.
So far i've invested $105 into this project. Hood cost $25, sandblasting
cost $50 (two layers of undersoat PLUS primer and paint, no wonder i couldn't
sand it!!!) and $25 to have the hood taped and coated on the bottom. I
completely trust his judgement. He's been doing this work for a while, and
everything i've sent to him comes out fantastic.
Don W
06-29-2004, 10:01 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
An update....
I stopped at the shop yesterday.... the boss had my hood done, at least the
underside. It looks great! The top had been blasted to bare metal, i can
paint it. He said he's not sure if he can do a gloss urethane on the topside,
because it's gotta be baked 50 degrees hotter than the underside. He's gonna
look into that for me.
So far i've invested $105 into this project. Hood cost $25, sandblasting
cost $50 (two layers of undersoat PLUS primer and paint, no wonder i couldn't
sand it!!!) and $25 to have the hood taped and coated on the bottom. I
completely trust his judgement. He's been doing this work for a while, and
everything i've sent to him comes out fantastic.
Don W
I stopped at the shop yesterday.... the boss had my hood done, at least the
underside. It looks great! The top had been blasted to bare metal, i can
paint it. He said he's not sure if he can do a gloss urethane on the topside,
because it's gotta be baked 50 degrees hotter than the underside. He's gonna
look into that for me.
So far i've invested $105 into this project. Hood cost $25, sandblasting
cost $50 (two layers of undersoat PLUS primer and paint, no wonder i couldn't
sand it!!!) and $25 to have the hood taped and coated on the bottom. I
completely trust his judgement. He's been doing this work for a while, and
everything i've sent to him comes out fantastic.
Don W
06-29-2004, 10:01 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Powdercoat on body exterior?
An update....
I stopped at the shop yesterday.... the boss had my hood done, at least the
underside. It looks great! The top had been blasted to bare metal, i can
paint it. He said he's not sure if he can do a gloss urethane on the topside,
because it's gotta be baked 50 degrees hotter than the underside. He's gonna
look into that for me.
So far i've invested $105 into this project. Hood cost $25, sandblasting
cost $50 (two layers of undersoat PLUS primer and paint, no wonder i couldn't
sand it!!!) and $25 to have the hood taped and coated on the bottom. I
completely trust his judgement. He's been doing this work for a while, and
everything i've sent to him comes out fantastic.
Don W
I stopped at the shop yesterday.... the boss had my hood done, at least the
underside. It looks great! The top had been blasted to bare metal, i can
paint it. He said he's not sure if he can do a gloss urethane on the topside,
because it's gotta be baked 50 degrees hotter than the underside. He's gonna
look into that for me.
So far i've invested $105 into this project. Hood cost $25, sandblasting
cost $50 (two layers of undersoat PLUS primer and paint, no wonder i couldn't
sand it!!!) and $25 to have the hood taped and coated on the bottom. I
completely trust his judgement. He's been doing this work for a while, and
everything i've sent to him comes out fantastic.
Don W