Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
07-04-2004, 03:30 PM
#21
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
Like to find one? AMC did make a diesel, it looks just like the
258" but the only ones I can find are in an airplane toter, and doesn't
look like a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Jeep did make a diesel CJ in the 70's for non-North American markets, and
> the Liberty will get a TDI.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40E711E3.F856A38F@***.net...
> > So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> > charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel. Good because I've
> > already reported AKA Azito to abuse@google.com.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > This needs to be posted every once in a while.
> > >
> > > ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> > > want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> > > enough complaints are laid.
> > >
> > > For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> > > process including the votes can be viewed here:
> > >
> > >
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...makers.jeep+wi
> llys
> > >
> > > Here is the Charter text quoted:
> > >
> > > RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> > >
> > > The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> > > mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> > > offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> > > discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
> > >
> > > At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> > > listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> > > daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> > > articles daily.
> > >
> > > It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> > > load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> > > rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
> > >
> > > CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> > >
> > > The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> > > for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> > > about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> > > medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> > > experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> > > parts by non-commercial vendors.
> > >
> > > Some things that could be discussed....
> > >
> > > -Jeep/****** history
> > > -repairs and modifications
> > > -parts exchange
> > > -technical information
> > > -4x4 driving experiences
> > > -vehicle restoration
> > > -new vehicle evaluations
> > >
> > > Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
> > >
> > > -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> > > other manufacturers
> > > -commercial posts
> > >
> > > The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> > > but not vise versa.
> > >
> > > END CHARTER.
> > >
> > > End quote.
> > >
> > > Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> > > alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
258" but the only ones I can find are in an airplane toter, and doesn't
look like a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Jeep did make a diesel CJ in the 70's for non-North American markets, and
> the Liberty will get a TDI.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40E711E3.F856A38F@***.net...
> > So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> > charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel. Good because I've
> > already reported AKA Azito to abuse@google.com.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > This needs to be posted every once in a while.
> > >
> > > ISP's these days take newsgroup charters seriously and folks that only
> > > want to be ---- disturbers by disrupting newsgroups will get slapped if
> > > enough complaints are laid.
> > >
> > > For those who don't know what this rec.*.* NG's charter is the whole
> > > process including the votes can be viewed here:
> > >
> > >
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...makers.jeep+wi
> llys
> > >
> > > Here is the Charter text quoted:
> > >
> > > RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> > >
> > > The discussion of Jeep 4 wheel drive vehicles began on the offroad
> > > mailing list as well as on the Usenet group rec.autos.4x4. As the
> > > offroad mailing list grew in size, the Jeep-L listserver was set up to
> > > discuss topics specifically to Jeep and ****** vehicles.
> > >
> > > At this time there are more that 50 articles sent to the Jeep
> > > listserver, as well as > 50 articles being sent on the offroad server
> > > daily. The volume on the usenet group rec.autos.4x4 exceeds 125
> > > articles daily.
> > >
> > > It has been suggested that a new Usenet group be created to take the
> > > load off of the listservers as well as limit the articles in the
> > > rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup.
> > >
> > > CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> > >
> > > The unmoderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** is to be used
> > > for discussions, announcements, expression of opinions, and questions
> > > about Jeep (Trade Mark) and ****** vehicles. It also serves as a
> > > medium for those interested in sharing and exchanging their
> > > experience. It is also meant to be a forum for buying and selling
> > > parts by non-commercial vendors.
> > >
> > > Some things that could be discussed....
> > >
> > > -Jeep/****** history
> > > -repairs and modifications
> > > -parts exchange
> > > -technical information
> > > -4x4 driving experiences
> > > -vehicle restoration
> > > -new vehicle evaluations
> > >
> > > Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
> > >
> > > -4 wheel drive vehicles made by
> > > other manufacturers
> > > -commercial posts
> > >
> > > The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
> > > but not vise versa.
> > >
> > > END CHARTER.
> > >
> > > End quote.
> > >
> > > Just thought we all needed a reminder that this isn't a free for all
> > > alt.*.* group but a rec.*.* group that at least has some basic rules.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-04-2004, 04:48 PM
#22
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
Hi Bill,
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
07-04-2004, 04:48 PM
#23
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
Hi Bill,
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
07-04-2004, 04:48 PM
#24
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
Hi Bill,
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
07-04-2004, 04:48 PM
#25
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
Hi Bill,
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> So posting stuff about diesel fuels, would in violation of our
> charter because no American made Jeep uses diesel.
07-04-2004, 05:26 PM
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
"Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
07-04-2004, 05:26 PM
#27
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
"Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
07-04-2004, 05:26 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
"Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
07-04-2004, 05:26 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
"Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
-4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers."
Actually I believe Daimler fall into the "other" category, they may
be talked about over at Alt.Jeep or Posers.something.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Very glad to see a stop to the on-going diesel bun fight and the
> obviously off-topic tangents it generates, but I see nothing in the
> charter that limits discussion to US-built Jeeps made for the US market.
> The charter defines boundaries, but not borders.
>
> Steve
07-04-2004, 05:36 PM
#30
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Re: Posting the RAMJ+W NG CHARTER!
Bill, I don't know where it originally came from but when I was
looking for a tranny for the MJ I ran across a guy in Amarillo with an
87 XJ that has a diesel in it - AIR he said it was the Renault POS
and a true gutless wonder - but we thought the tranny would work.
Turned out, it sat in front of an AX-5 which wouldn't stand up to my
4.0 so we dropped it. Like I said, I have no idea where it originally
came from but it was in Texas at that time. so some may have leaked to
the US market.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 19:25:51 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> An 85 Cherokee with a Renault Diesel made for the Canadian market,
> not the U.S.of A.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > And the XJ had a diesel... and the GC.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
--
Will Honea
looking for a tranny for the MJ I ran across a guy in Amarillo with an
87 XJ that has a diesel in it - AIR he said it was the Renault POS
and a true gutless wonder - but we thought the tranny would work.
Turned out, it sat in front of an AX-5 which wouldn't stand up to my
4.0 so we dropped it. Like I said, I have no idea where it originally
came from but it was in Texas at that time. so some may have leaked to
the US market.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 19:25:51 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> An 85 Cherokee with a Renault Diesel made for the Canadian market,
> not the U.S.of A.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > And the XJ had a diesel... and the GC.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
--
Will Honea
