Possible to Repair Synchros?
01-22-2006, 04:44 PM
#81
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
You must have more flexible hands and arms than I do - it took me long
enough to split the case on the bench that I didn't regret dropping
the tc (not the tranny, just the tc). Pop the linkage loose, 6 mount
bolts and 2 drive shafts and it's out. I would be worried about
buggering the case trying to split it in place.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:57:16 UTC John in Vegas
<johnina99tj@netscape.net> wrote:
> I had to change the chains on both my YJ and XJ within about a few
> months of each other and it really isnt that tough. I did them both
> from underneath so I could leave the case in.
>
> John in Vegas
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:38 UTC "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> >>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> >>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> >>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> >>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> >> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> >>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> >>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> >>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> >>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> >>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> >>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
> >
> >
> > If that chain in the tc is slipping, you gotum big problem! That's a
> > sprocket driven chain and if it's loose enough to jump a tooth or 3
> > then it is also loose enough to be eating the case away. You sure
> > it's not just jumping out of 4WD? That's a simple fix - adjust the
> > shift rod. One 13mm bolt in the trunion that locks the shift rod in
> > place. If the chain is actually stretched far enough to jump, then a
> > rebuild on the tc is pretty simple as well. If you can swap an engine
> > you can do that part.
> >
>
--
Will Honea
enough to split the case on the bench that I didn't regret dropping
the tc (not the tranny, just the tc). Pop the linkage loose, 6 mount
bolts and 2 drive shafts and it's out. I would be worried about
buggering the case trying to split it in place.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:57:16 UTC John in Vegas
<johnina99tj@netscape.net> wrote:
> I had to change the chains on both my YJ and XJ within about a few
> months of each other and it really isnt that tough. I did them both
> from underneath so I could leave the case in.
>
> John in Vegas
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:38 UTC "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> >>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> >>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> >>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> >>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> >> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> >>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> >>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> >>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> >>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> >>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> >>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
> >
> >
> > If that chain in the tc is slipping, you gotum big problem! That's a
> > sprocket driven chain and if it's loose enough to jump a tooth or 3
> > then it is also loose enough to be eating the case away. You sure
> > it's not just jumping out of 4WD? That's a simple fix - adjust the
> > shift rod. One 13mm bolt in the trunion that locks the shift rod in
> > place. If the chain is actually stretched far enough to jump, then a
> > rebuild on the tc is pretty simple as well. If you can swap an engine
> > you can do that part.
> >
>
--
Will Honea
01-22-2006, 04:44 PM
#82
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
You must have more flexible hands and arms than I do - it took me long
enough to split the case on the bench that I didn't regret dropping
the tc (not the tranny, just the tc). Pop the linkage loose, 6 mount
bolts and 2 drive shafts and it's out. I would be worried about
buggering the case trying to split it in place.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:57:16 UTC John in Vegas
<johnina99tj@netscape.net> wrote:
> I had to change the chains on both my YJ and XJ within about a few
> months of each other and it really isnt that tough. I did them both
> from underneath so I could leave the case in.
>
> John in Vegas
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:38 UTC "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> >>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> >>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> >>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> >>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> >> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> >>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> >>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> >>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> >>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> >>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> >>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
> >
> >
> > If that chain in the tc is slipping, you gotum big problem! That's a
> > sprocket driven chain and if it's loose enough to jump a tooth or 3
> > then it is also loose enough to be eating the case away. You sure
> > it's not just jumping out of 4WD? That's a simple fix - adjust the
> > shift rod. One 13mm bolt in the trunion that locks the shift rod in
> > place. If the chain is actually stretched far enough to jump, then a
> > rebuild on the tc is pretty simple as well. If you can swap an engine
> > you can do that part.
> >
>
--
Will Honea
enough to split the case on the bench that I didn't regret dropping
the tc (not the tranny, just the tc). Pop the linkage loose, 6 mount
bolts and 2 drive shafts and it's out. I would be worried about
buggering the case trying to split it in place.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:57:16 UTC John in Vegas
<johnina99tj@netscape.net> wrote:
> I had to change the chains on both my YJ and XJ within about a few
> months of each other and it really isnt that tough. I did them both
> from underneath so I could leave the case in.
>
> John in Vegas
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:38 UTC "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> >>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> >>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> >>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> >>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> >> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> >>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> >>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> >>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> >>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> >>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> >>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
> >
> >
> > If that chain in the tc is slipping, you gotum big problem! That's a
> > sprocket driven chain and if it's loose enough to jump a tooth or 3
> > then it is also loose enough to be eating the case away. You sure
> > it's not just jumping out of 4WD? That's a simple fix - adjust the
> > shift rod. One 13mm bolt in the trunion that locks the shift rod in
> > place. If the chain is actually stretched far enough to jump, then a
> > rebuild on the tc is pretty simple as well. If you can swap an engine
> > you can do that part.
> >
>
--
Will Honea
01-22-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
help with that.
Earle Horton wrote:
> Double clutching is good, much better than tearing transmissions apart in
> the garage or basement. That chain slipping would have me worried though.
>
> Earle
>
> "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1137803678.597832.36040@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
>>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
>>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
>>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
>>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
>> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
>>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
>>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
>>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
>>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
>>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
>>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
>>
>>jack
>>
>
>
>
01-22-2006, 06:32 PM
#84
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
help with that.
Earle Horton wrote:
> Double clutching is good, much better than tearing transmissions apart in
> the garage or basement. That chain slipping would have me worried though.
>
> Earle
>
> "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1137803678.597832.36040@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
>>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
>>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
>>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
>>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
>> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
>>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
>>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
>>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
>>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
>>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
>>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
>>
>>jack
>>
>
>
>
01-22-2006, 06:32 PM
#85
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
help with that.
Earle Horton wrote:
> Double clutching is good, much better than tearing transmissions apart in
> the garage or basement. That chain slipping would have me worried though.
>
> Earle
>
> "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1137803678.597832.36040@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
>>Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
>>bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
>>most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
>>years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
>> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
>>up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
>>about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
>>replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
>>4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
>>4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
>>bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
>>
>>jack
>>
>
>
>
01-22-2006, 07:05 PM
#86
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
That's when the cluster is naturally slowing down as is the engine
for the next gear, rather than speeding up the cluster to match a lower
gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
> help with that.
for the next gear, rather than speeding up the cluster to match a lower
gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
> help with that.
01-22-2006, 07:05 PM
#87
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
That's when the cluster is naturally slowing down as is the engine
for the next gear, rather than speeding up the cluster to match a lower
gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
> help with that.
for the next gear, rather than speeding up the cluster to match a lower
gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
> help with that.
01-22-2006, 07:05 PM
#88
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Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
That's when the cluster is naturally slowing down as is the engine
for the next gear, rather than speeding up the cluster to match a lower
gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
> help with that.
for the next gear, rather than speeding up the cluster to match a lower
gear.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> He says that it zips shifting up. I don't think double clutching will
> help with that.
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