Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

If you got the Jeep service manual, you would be surprised at how much more
information it has than the Haynes. I am not sure that it is worth $100 to
everybody though. You would probably want it for transfer case and/or
transmission disassembly. Reading the manual, is what helped me decide,
that double clutching is not so bad for now. You should be able to put the
vehicle in 4hi, crawl underneath, and judge for yourself how much chain slop
there is.

Earle

"jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1137811298.292507.115360@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks Will & Earle. I have a Haynes manual, (which I get for every
> vehicle I have.) Helps alot on my 97 Dakota. My brother was a service
> manager at a jeep garage a few years ago, and said you used to be able
> to take the transfer case apart on the older jeeps. I will probably
> take it out, along with the tranny early this spring, and fix both, or
> fix the chain, and find a used tranny? God, why haven't I thought of
> looking up sites like this before?..lol. I have learned more here in a
> hour than 2 months checking the Haynes, and wondering. Thanks again
> guys! I will probably bury all of you with questions...
>
> jack
>

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

Thanks Earle. I might get the manual. The Haynes sure doesn't go into
enough detail for me to dare to start taking gears out... I have even
found as much detail in the 4X4 Jeep catalouge I get quarterly...lol.
Thanks.

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

Thanks Earle. I might get the manual. The Haynes sure doesn't go into
enough detail for me to dare to start taking gears out... I have even
found as much detail in the 4X4 Jeep catalouge I get quarterly...lol.
Thanks.

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

Thanks Earle. I might get the manual. The Haynes sure doesn't go into
enough detail for me to dare to start taking gears out... I have even
found as much detail in the 4X4 Jeep catalouge I get quarterly...lol.
Thanks.

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

I kinda doubt you are feeling chain slip in 4x4. The only times I have
heard of that happening was seconds before a big bang happened when the
t-case exploded. I guess it is possible though....

I would be more inclined to think linkage adjustment. I also would be
checking the tranny and engine mounts for slop, that can be one cause of
linkage out of adjustment.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jack wrote:
>
> Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> 4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> 4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
>
> jack

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

I kinda doubt you are feeling chain slip in 4x4. The only times I have
heard of that happening was seconds before a big bang happened when the
t-case exploded. I guess it is possible though....

I would be more inclined to think linkage adjustment. I also would be
checking the tranny and engine mounts for slop, that can be one cause of
linkage out of adjustment.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jack wrote:
>
> Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> 4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> 4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
>
> jack

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

I kinda doubt you are feeling chain slip in 4x4. The only times I have
heard of that happening was seconds before a big bang happened when the
t-case exploded. I guess it is possible though....

I would be more inclined to think linkage adjustment. I also would be
checking the tranny and engine mounts for slop, that can be one cause of
linkage out of adjustment.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jack wrote:
>
> Hi guys. I just found this site, and topic. What a help! I have a 91
> Wrangler 4 cyl, my youngest son bought when it was 3 years old. I just
> bought it from him last summer. (170,000 miles) Dear old dad has done
> most of the work on it during the years. Replaced the motor a few
> years ago with a re-built....About 20,000 Miles on motor.
> About 2 years ago the syncro's started making a noise when shifting
> up, only between 2nd & 3rd. Now about in every gear. Glad to hear
> about the Redline MT90. I will try that before removing the tranny, or
> replacing. My chain in the transfer case also slips. On icy roads, in
> 4H, really slips. When going to hunting camp through muddy roads in
> 4L, only slips occasionally. Other than that the old girl ain't to
> bad. Good for riding the gravel backroads here in eastern Maine!!
>
> jack

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

You might keep in mind that some of the component manuals are
available seperately. I think the AX-15 manual was something like
$12-$15 and the NP-231 manual was even less. I had to buy a couple of
these when I swapped out the old BA10/5 tranny for my '88.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:00:13 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote:

> If you got the Jeep service manual, you would be surprised at how much more
> information it has than the Haynes. I am not sure that it is worth $100 to
> everybody though. You would probably want it for transfer case and/or
> transmission disassembly. Reading the manual, is what helped me decide,
> that double clutching is not so bad for now. You should be able to put the
> vehicle in 4hi, crawl underneath, and judge for yourself how much chain slop
> there is.
>
> Earle
>
> "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1137811298.292507.115360@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> > Thanks Will & Earle. I have a Haynes manual, (which I get for every
> > vehicle I have.) Helps alot on my 97 Dakota. My brother was a service
> > manager at a jeep garage a few years ago, and said you used to be able
> > to take the transfer case apart on the older jeeps. I will probably
> > take it out, along with the tranny early this spring, and fix both, or
> > fix the chain, and find a used tranny? God, why haven't I thought of
> > looking up sites like this before?..lol. I have learned more here in a
> > hour than 2 months checking the Haynes, and wondering. Thanks again
> > guys! I will probably bury all of you with questions...
> >
> > jack
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

You might keep in mind that some of the component manuals are
available seperately. I think the AX-15 manual was something like
$12-$15 and the NP-231 manual was even less. I had to buy a couple of
these when I swapped out the old BA10/5 tranny for my '88.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:00:13 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote:

> If you got the Jeep service manual, you would be surprised at how much more
> information it has than the Haynes. I am not sure that it is worth $100 to
> everybody though. You would probably want it for transfer case and/or
> transmission disassembly. Reading the manual, is what helped me decide,
> that double clutching is not so bad for now. You should be able to put the
> vehicle in 4hi, crawl underneath, and judge for yourself how much chain slop
> there is.
>
> Earle
>
> "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1137811298.292507.115360@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> > Thanks Will & Earle. I have a Haynes manual, (which I get for every
> > vehicle I have.) Helps alot on my 97 Dakota. My brother was a service
> > manager at a jeep garage a few years ago, and said you used to be able
> > to take the transfer case apart on the older jeeps. I will probably
> > take it out, along with the tranny early this spring, and fix both, or
> > fix the chain, and find a used tranny? God, why haven't I thought of
> > looking up sites like this before?..lol. I have learned more here in a
> > hour than 2 months checking the Haynes, and wondering. Thanks again
> > guys! I will probably bury all of you with questions...
> >
> > jack
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 

You might keep in mind that some of the component manuals are
available seperately. I think the AX-15 manual was something like
$12-$15 and the NP-231 manual was even less. I had to buy a couple of
these when I swapped out the old BA10/5 tranny for my '88.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:00:13 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote:

> If you got the Jeep service manual, you would be surprised at how much more
> information it has than the Haynes. I am not sure that it is worth $100 to
> everybody though. You would probably want it for transfer case and/or
> transmission disassembly. Reading the manual, is what helped me decide,
> that double clutching is not so bad for now. You should be able to put the
> vehicle in 4hi, crawl underneath, and judge for yourself how much chain slop
> there is.
>
> Earle
>
> "jack" <jackgray@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1137811298.292507.115360@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> > Thanks Will & Earle. I have a Haynes manual, (which I get for every
> > vehicle I have.) Helps alot on my 97 Dakota. My brother was a service
> > manager at a jeep garage a few years ago, and said you used to be able
> > to take the transfer case apart on the older jeeps. I will probably
> > take it out, along with the tranny early this spring, and fix both, or
> > fix the chain, and find a used tranny? God, why haven't I thought of
> > looking up sites like this before?..lol. I have learned more here in a
> > hour than 2 months checking the Haynes, and wondering. Thanks again
> > guys! I will probably bury all of you with questions...
> >
> > jack
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea