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Mike Romain 12-27-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
I would highly recommend you get at least one of the inexpensive manuals
like the Haynes. It gives all the basics and settings for everything
and is real handy when tinkering around on them.

You will find 2 bolts the same on the tranny. One will be in the very
bottom and a second looking exactly the same will be in the side about
half way up.

It is easy to drain but a bit of a pain to fill. I usually add a chunk
of gas line to the end of the oil bottle which helps getting it back
in. I also warm the oil up first. Molasses in January has nothing on
cold gear oil.....

Mike

macgraphics wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike - I will try to locate some GL3 rated transmission fluid.
> Should I completely drain what I have currently? If so, (this is going
> to sound like a naive question) is this a simple process? I am a Jeep
> newbie.


Mike Romain 12-27-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
I would highly recommend you get at least one of the inexpensive manuals
like the Haynes. It gives all the basics and settings for everything
and is real handy when tinkering around on them.

You will find 2 bolts the same on the tranny. One will be in the very
bottom and a second looking exactly the same will be in the side about
half way up.

It is easy to drain but a bit of a pain to fill. I usually add a chunk
of gas line to the end of the oil bottle which helps getting it back
in. I also warm the oil up first. Molasses in January has nothing on
cold gear oil.....

Mike

macgraphics wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike - I will try to locate some GL3 rated transmission fluid.
> Should I completely drain what I have currently? If so, (this is going
> to sound like a naive question) is this a simple process? I am a Jeep
> newbie.


Jerry Bransford 12-27-2005 07:29 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
I wouldn't expect a cure or anything dramatic. Some have had some
success by switching to this particular gear lube but if you truly have
a synchro problem, it's not going to make a noticeable difference. It's
worth a shot though, you're not out a lot of $$$.

Jerry

macgraphics wrote:
> Thanks Jerry - Once I drain and replace, how soon (do you guess) I
> should know whether on not this remedies the problem?
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 12-27-2005 07:29 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
I wouldn't expect a cure or anything dramatic. Some have had some
success by switching to this particular gear lube but if you truly have
a synchro problem, it's not going to make a noticeable difference. It's
worth a shot though, you're not out a lot of $$$.

Jerry

macgraphics wrote:
> Thanks Jerry - Once I drain and replace, how soon (do you guess) I
> should know whether on not this remedies the problem?
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 12-27-2005 07:29 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
I wouldn't expect a cure or anything dramatic. Some have had some
success by switching to this particular gear lube but if you truly have
a synchro problem, it's not going to make a noticeable difference. It's
worth a shot though, you're not out a lot of $$$.

Jerry

macgraphics wrote:
> Thanks Jerry - Once I drain and replace, how soon (do you guess) I
> should know whether on not this remedies the problem?
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Mike Romain 12-27-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
My T-5 came back to life within a couple days. The crunch when
downshifting and I had one upshifting cold went away really fast.

Mike

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> I wouldn't expect a cure or anything dramatic. Some have had some
> success by switching to this particular gear lube but if you truly have
> a synchro problem, it's not going to make a noticeable difference. It's
> worth a shot though, you're not out a lot of $$$.
>
> Jerry
>
> macgraphics wrote:
> > Thanks Jerry - Once I drain and replace, how soon (do you guess) I
> > should know whether on not this remedies the problem?
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


Mike Romain 12-27-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
My T-5 came back to life within a couple days. The crunch when
downshifting and I had one upshifting cold went away really fast.

Mike

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> I wouldn't expect a cure or anything dramatic. Some have had some
> success by switching to this particular gear lube but if you truly have
> a synchro problem, it's not going to make a noticeable difference. It's
> worth a shot though, you're not out a lot of $$$.
>
> Jerry
>
> macgraphics wrote:
> > Thanks Jerry - Once I drain and replace, how soon (do you guess) I
> > should know whether on not this remedies the problem?
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


Mike Romain 12-27-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
My T-5 came back to life within a couple days. The crunch when
downshifting and I had one upshifting cold went away really fast.

Mike

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> I wouldn't expect a cure or anything dramatic. Some have had some
> success by switching to this particular gear lube but if you truly have
> a synchro problem, it's not going to make a noticeable difference. It's
> worth a shot though, you're not out a lot of $$$.
>
> Jerry
>
> macgraphics wrote:
> > Thanks Jerry - Once I drain and replace, how soon (do you guess) I
> > should know whether on not this remedies the problem?
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


Will Honea 12-28-2005 01:25 AM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:21:25 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> I would highly recommend you get at least one of the inexpensive manuals
> like the Haynes. It gives all the basics and settings for everything
> and is real handy when tinkering around on them.
>
> You will find 2 bolts the same on the tranny. One will be in the very
> bottom and a second looking exactly the same will be in the side about
> half way up.
>
> It is easy to drain but a bit of a pain to fill. I usually add a chunk
> of gas line to the end of the oil bottle which helps getting it back
> in. I also warm the oil up first. Molasses in January has nothing on
> cold gear oil.....


Mike, being from the frozen North, you would appreciate this. Here I
was stationed in Wisconsin after living in far more temperate climes
all my life. Busted the cross shafts in the front diff of my old
Scout. I unlocked the hubs and got it home, but I had an unheated
garage and it never got up to zero (F) that week. Pulled the cover
off the diff and had my first inkling of trouble - the gear oil didn't
even try to run out. I stuck my hand in that goo to pull the pieces
out and I don't think I have ever felt anything as painful as that
sub-zero gear oil!

I doubt that what doesn't drain out will cause any problem. The only
way I know to get it all out is to crack the case and that still
leaves a little bit coating the gears and bearings. Just let it set
and drip for a while if you are concerned about mixing the oils.

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 12-28-2005 01:25 AM

Re: Possible to Repair Synchros?
 
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:21:25 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> I would highly recommend you get at least one of the inexpensive manuals
> like the Haynes. It gives all the basics and settings for everything
> and is real handy when tinkering around on them.
>
> You will find 2 bolts the same on the tranny. One will be in the very
> bottom and a second looking exactly the same will be in the side about
> half way up.
>
> It is easy to drain but a bit of a pain to fill. I usually add a chunk
> of gas line to the end of the oil bottle which helps getting it back
> in. I also warm the oil up first. Molasses in January has nothing on
> cold gear oil.....


Mike, being from the frozen North, you would appreciate this. Here I
was stationed in Wisconsin after living in far more temperate climes
all my life. Busted the cross shafts in the front diff of my old
Scout. I unlocked the hubs and got it home, but I had an unheated
garage and it never got up to zero (F) that week. Pulled the cover
off the diff and had my first inkling of trouble - the gear oil didn't
even try to run out. I stuck my hand in that goo to pull the pieces
out and I don't think I have ever felt anything as painful as that
sub-zero gear oil!

I doubt that what doesn't drain out will cause any problem. The only
way I know to get it all out is to crack the case and that still
leaves a little bit coating the gears and bearings. Just let it set
and drip for a while if you are concerned about mixing the oils.

--
Will Honea


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