On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:51:42 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:


> God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
>following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
>gibberish/babbling
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will you never learn, I'll post it again, please use one His names:

Abaddon, Accuser of our brethren, Adversary, Angel of Light,
Antichrist, Angel of the bottomless pit. Antichrist, Apollyon,
Beelzebub, Belial, Crooked serpent, Devil, Enemy,
Dragon, Father of lies, God of this World, Leviathan, Liar, Lucifer,
Lying spirit, Murderer, Old serpent, Piercing serpent, Power of
darkness, Prince of the devils, Prince of the power of the air,
Roaring lion, Prince of this world, Ruler of this world, Satan,
Serpent, Swine, Son of the Morning, Spirit who now works in the sons
of disobedience Tempter, Unclean spirit, Wicked one.

Thank you
>
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.10.30.01.29.13.759645@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> Wiki is far, far from the ultimate arbiter, which you should know, but
>> obviously don't.
>>
>> And whatever Billie's psychiatric diagnoses might be, it appears
>> that elements of it/them are transmittable, particularly the
>> assumptiveness without personal knowledge of those of whom you are so
>> derisive.
>>
>> "So Happy Together......"
>>
>> ._. .... . . ._. ...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
*** burned?

>
>
>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>
>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>
>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>
>> The Vulgar Troll
>>
>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>> to this form when cornered.
>>
>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>
>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>> forumites.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>> be able to resist posting again.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>
>> The Contrarian Troll
>>
>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>> ready answers.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>> his notice.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>above.
>>
>> The Agenda Troll
>>
>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>> the spat.
>>
>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>
>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>
>> Sophist Trolls
>>
>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>> intolerant species.
>>
>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>
>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>
>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>
>> The Artistic Troll
>>
>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>> dangerous species.
>>
>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>
>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>
>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>> causing trouble.
>>
>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>> complain to the Moderator.
>>
>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>
>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>> usernames for a single account.
>>
>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>> one that they can control.
>>
>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>
>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>
>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>
>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>> to all breeds.
>>
>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>
>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>> be underestimated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> FRH

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
*** burned?

>
>
>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>
>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>
>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>
>> The Vulgar Troll
>>
>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>> to this form when cornered.
>>
>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>
>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>> forumites.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>> be able to resist posting again.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>
>> The Contrarian Troll
>>
>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>> ready answers.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>> his notice.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>above.
>>
>> The Agenda Troll
>>
>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>> the spat.
>>
>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>
>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>
>> Sophist Trolls
>>
>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>> intolerant species.
>>
>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>
>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>
>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>
>> The Artistic Troll
>>
>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>> dangerous species.
>>
>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>
>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>
>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>> causing trouble.
>>
>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>> complain to the Moderator.
>>
>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>
>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>> usernames for a single account.
>>
>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>> one that they can control.
>>
>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>
>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>
>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>
>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>> to all breeds.
>>
>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>
>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>> be underestimated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> FRH

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
*** burned?

>
>
>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>
>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>
>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>
>> The Vulgar Troll
>>
>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>> to this form when cornered.
>>
>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>
>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>> forumites.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>> be able to resist posting again.
>>
>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>
>> The Contrarian Troll
>>
>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>> ready answers.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>> his notice.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>
>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>above.
>>
>> The Agenda Troll
>>
>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>> the spat.
>>
>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>
>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>
>> Sophist Trolls
>>
>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>> intolerant species.
>>
>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>
>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>
>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>
>> The Artistic Troll
>>
>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>> dangerous species.
>>
>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>
>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>
>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>> causing trouble.
>>
>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>> complain to the Moderator.
>>
>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>
>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>> usernames for a single account.
>>
>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>> one that they can control.
>>
>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>
>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>
>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>
>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>> to all breeds.
>>
>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>
>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>> be underestimated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> FRH

 

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:06:57 +0000, Terry Dactille©~® wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
>
>> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
> *** burned?


Because he backs up into everything? Besides, he L I K E S it.

Or so sayeth Da Big Cat.....


>
>>
>>
>>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>>
>>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>>
>>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>>
>>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>>
>>> The Vulgar Troll
>>>
>>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>>> to this form when cornered.
>>>
>>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>>
>>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>>> forumites.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>>> be able to resist posting again.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>>
>>> The Contrarian Troll
>>>
>>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>>> ready answers.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>>> his notice.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>>above.
>>>
>>> The Agenda Troll
>>>
>>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>>> the spat.
>>>
>>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>>
>>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>>
>>> Sophist Trolls
>>>
>>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>>> intolerant species.
>>>
>>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>>
>>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>>
>>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>>
>>> The Artistic Troll
>>>
>>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>>> dangerous species.
>>>
>>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>>
>>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>>
>>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>>> causing trouble.
>>>
>>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>>> complain to the Moderator.
>>>
>>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>>> usernames for a single account.
>>>
>>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>>> one that they can control.
>>>
>>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>>
>>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>>
>>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>>> to all breeds.
>>>
>>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>>
>>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>>> be underestimated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> FRH

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

 

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:06:57 +0000, Terry Dactille©~® wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
>
>> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
> *** burned?


Because he backs up into everything? Besides, he L I K E S it.

Or so sayeth Da Big Cat.....


>
>>
>>
>>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>>
>>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>>
>>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>>
>>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>>
>>> The Vulgar Troll
>>>
>>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>>> to this form when cornered.
>>>
>>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>>
>>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>>> forumites.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>>> be able to resist posting again.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>>
>>> The Contrarian Troll
>>>
>>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>>> ready answers.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>>> his notice.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>>above.
>>>
>>> The Agenda Troll
>>>
>>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>>> the spat.
>>>
>>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>>
>>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>>
>>> Sophist Trolls
>>>
>>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>>> intolerant species.
>>>
>>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>>
>>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>>
>>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>>
>>> The Artistic Troll
>>>
>>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>>> dangerous species.
>>>
>>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>>
>>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>>
>>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>>> causing trouble.
>>>
>>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>>> complain to the Moderator.
>>>
>>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>>> usernames for a single account.
>>>
>>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>>> one that they can control.
>>>
>>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>>
>>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>>
>>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>>> to all breeds.
>>>
>>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>>
>>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>>> be underestimated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> FRH

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

 

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:06:57 +0000, Terry Dactille©~® wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
>
>> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
> *** burned?


Because he backs up into everything? Besides, he L I K E S it.

Or so sayeth Da Big Cat.....


>
>>
>>
>>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>>
>>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>>
>>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>>
>>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>>
>>> The Vulgar Troll
>>>
>>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>>> to this form when cornered.
>>>
>>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>>
>>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>>> forumites.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>>> be able to resist posting again.
>>>
>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>>
>>> The Contrarian Troll
>>>
>>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>>> ready answers.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>>> his notice.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>>
>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>>above.
>>>
>>> The Agenda Troll
>>>
>>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>>> the spat.
>>>
>>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>>
>>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>>
>>> Sophist Trolls
>>>
>>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>>> intolerant species.
>>>
>>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>>
>>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>>
>>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>>
>>> The Artistic Troll
>>>
>>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>>> dangerous species.
>>>
>>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>>
>>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>>
>>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>>> causing trouble.
>>>
>>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>>> complain to the Moderator.
>>>
>>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>>> usernames for a single account.
>>>
>>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>>> one that they can control.
>>>
>>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>>
>>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>>
>>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>>
>>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>>> to all breeds.
>>>
>>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>>
>>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>>> be underestimated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> FRH

--
Cooyon Billie might actually be good with computers. After all, long
before they were available to the public, he was already quite adept
at Booting the Colonel......

 

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:58:33 GMT, Pink Freud©®
<drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:06:57 +0000, Terry Dactille©~® wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
>> <LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
>>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
>> *** burned?
>
>
>Because he backs up into everything? Besides, he L I K E S it.
>
>Or so sayeth Da Big Cat.....
>
>
Point taken!
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>>>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>>>
>>>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>>>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>>>
>>>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>>>
>>>> The Vulgar Troll
>>>>
>>>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>>>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>>>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>>>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>>>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>>>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>>>> to this form when cornered.
>>>>
>>>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>>>
>>>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>>>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>>>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>>>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>>>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>>>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>>>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>>>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>>>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>>>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>>>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>>>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>>>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>>>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>>>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>>>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>>>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>>>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>>>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>>>> forumites.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>>>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>>>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>>>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>>>> be able to resist posting again.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>>>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>>>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>>>
>>>> The Contrarian Troll
>>>>
>>>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>>>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>>>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>>>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>>>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>>>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>>>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>>>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>>>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>>>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>>>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>>>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>>>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>>>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>>>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>>>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>>>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>>>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>>>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>>>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>>>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>>>> ready answers.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>>>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>>>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>>>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>>>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>>>> his notice.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>>>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>>>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>>>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>>>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>>>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>>>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>>>above.
>>>>
>>>> The Agenda Troll
>>>>
>>>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>>>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>>>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>>>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>>>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>>>> the spat.
>>>>
>>>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>>>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>>>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>>>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>>>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>>>
>>>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>>>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>>>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>>>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>>>
>>>> Sophist Trolls
>>>>
>>>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>>>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>>>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>>>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>>>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>>>> intolerant species.
>>>>
>>>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>>>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>>>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>>>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>>>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>>>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>>>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>>>
>>>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>>>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>>>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>>>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>>>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>>>
>>>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>>>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>>>
>>>> The Artistic Troll
>>>>
>>>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>>>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>>>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>>>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>>>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>>>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>>>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>>>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>>>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>>>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>>>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>>>> dangerous species.
>>>>
>>>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>>>
>>>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>>>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>>>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>>>> causing trouble.
>>>>
>>>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>>>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>>>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>>>> complain to the Moderator.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>>>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>>>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>>>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>>>> usernames for a single account.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>>>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>>>> one that they can control.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>>>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>>>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>>>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>>>
>>>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>>>
>>>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>>>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>>>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>>>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>>>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>>>> to all breeds.
>>>>
>>>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>>>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>>>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>>>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>>>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>>>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>>>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>>>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>>>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>>>
>>>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>>>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>>>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>>>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>>>> be underestimated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> FRH

 

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:58:33 GMT, Pink Freud©®
<drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:06:57 +0000, Terry Dactille©~® wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
>> <LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
>>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
>> *** burned?
>
>
>Because he backs up into everything? Besides, he L I K E S it.
>
>Or so sayeth Da Big Cat.....
>
>
Point taken!
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>>>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>>>
>>>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>>>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>>>
>>>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>>>
>>>> The Vulgar Troll
>>>>
>>>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>>>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>>>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>>>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>>>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>>>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>>>> to this form when cornered.
>>>>
>>>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>>>
>>>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>>>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>>>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>>>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>>>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>>>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>>>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>>>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>>>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>>>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>>>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>>>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>>>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>>>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>>>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>>>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>>>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>>>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>>>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>>>> forumites.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>>>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>>>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>>>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>>>> be able to resist posting again.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>>>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>>>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>>>
>>>> The Contrarian Troll
>>>>
>>>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>>>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>>>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>>>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>>>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>>>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>>>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>>>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>>>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>>>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>>>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>>>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>>>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>>>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>>>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>>>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>>>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>>>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>>>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>>>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>>>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>>>> ready answers.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>>>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>>>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>>>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>>>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>>>> his notice.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>>>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>>>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>>>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>>>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>>>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>>>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>>>above.
>>>>
>>>> The Agenda Troll
>>>>
>>>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>>>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>>>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>>>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>>>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>>>> the spat.
>>>>
>>>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>>>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>>>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>>>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>>>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>>>
>>>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>>>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>>>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>>>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>>>
>>>> Sophist Trolls
>>>>
>>>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>>>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>>>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>>>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>>>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>>>> intolerant species.
>>>>
>>>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>>>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>>>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>>>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>>>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>>>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>>>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>>>
>>>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>>>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>>>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>>>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>>>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>>>
>>>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>>>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>>>
>>>> The Artistic Troll
>>>>
>>>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>>>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>>>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>>>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>>>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>>>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>>>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>>>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>>>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>>>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>>>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>>>> dangerous species.
>>>>
>>>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>>>
>>>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>>>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>>>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>>>> causing trouble.
>>>>
>>>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>>>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>>>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>>>> complain to the Moderator.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>>>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>>>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>>>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>>>> usernames for a single account.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>>>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>>>> one that they can control.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>>>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>>>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>>>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>>>
>>>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>>>
>>>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>>>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>>>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>>>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>>>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>>>> to all breeds.
>>>>
>>>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>>>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>>>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>>>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>>>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>>>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>>>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>>>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>>>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>>>
>>>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>>>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>>>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>>>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>>>> be underestimated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> FRH

 

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:58:33 GMT, Pink Freud©®
<drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:06:57 +0000, Terry Dactille©~® wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:11:01 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
>> <LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Flame Warriors: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
>>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> If you consider yourselfa Flame Warrior, why do you keep getting your
>> *** burned?
>
>
>Because he backs up into everything? Besides, he L I K E S it.
>
>Or so sayeth Da Big Cat.....
>
>
Point taken!
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
>>>news:S5yVi.19863$ya1.14271@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>> Field Guide to Forum Trolls
>>>>
>>>> A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
>>>> reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
>>>>
>>>> THE MAJOR BREEDS
>>>>
>>>> The Vulgar Troll
>>>>
>>>> These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
>>>> Often, they make racist comments, or they may post ---- and other Spam.
>>>> Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
>>>> off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious
>>>> Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts,"
>>>> you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert
>>>> to this form when cornered.
>>>>
>>>> The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
>>>>
>>>> More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
>>>> Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or
>>>> she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves,
>>>> sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of
>>>> lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often
>>>> "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag
>>>> of tricks to which they turn:
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it
>>>> was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by
>>>> claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending
>>>> to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question
>>>> (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third
>>>> parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim
>>>> that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your
>>>> account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in
>>>> claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be
>>>> disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives
>>>> ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now,
>>>> finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before.
>>>> Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the
>>>> forumites.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving
>>>> forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you
>>>> can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will
>>>> most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not
>>>> be able to resist posting again.
>>>>
>>>> -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
>>>> exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often
>>>> they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
>>>>
>>>> The Contrarian Troll
>>>>
>>>> A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose
>>>> predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by
>>>> those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will
>>>> invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in
>>>> the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between
>>>> dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not
>>>> categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but
>>>> due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
>>>> poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and
>>>> not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry.
>>>> Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their
>>>> post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with
>>>> whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course
>>>> of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to
>>>> the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just
>>>> [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule
>>>> anyone who disagrees with you."
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only
>>>> a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display
>>>> it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull
>>>> posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings
>>>> significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no
>>>> ready answers.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When
>>>> confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is
>>>> the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the
>>>> Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while
>>>> he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath
>>>> his notice.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by
>>>> Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek
>>>> refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics
>>>> as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
>>>>
>>>> -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian
>>>> Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves
>>>> into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate
>>>> the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned
>>>above.
>>>>
>>>> The Agenda Troll
>>>>
>>>> Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to
>>>> pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another
>>>> member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that
>>>> forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda
>>>> Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue
>>>> the spat.
>>>>
>>>> -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who
>>>> thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has
>>>> been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will
>>>> visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to ------
>>>> his or her negative opinion of Instructor X.
>>>>
>>>> -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these
>>>> are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of
>>>> their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless
>>>> plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation.
>>>>
>>>> Sophist Trolls
>>>>
>>>> Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened
>>>> Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well
>>>> educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number
>>>> of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum
>>>> participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and
>>>> intolerant species.
>>>>
>>>> -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly
>>>> when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary
>>>> views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually
>>>> dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide,
>>>> condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with
>>>> whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that
>>>> old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
>>>>
>>>> -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A
>>>> philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent
>>>> ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words,
>>>> committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of
>>>> engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
>>>>
>>>> -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
>>>> hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind.
>>>>
>>>> The Artistic Troll
>>>>
>>>> A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
>>>> individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what
>>>> they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing
>>>> the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites
>>>> along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which
>>>> point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at
>>>> everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight
>>>> in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware
>>>> manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the
>>>> approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably
>>>> chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most
>>>> dangerous species.
>>>>
>>>> TROLL SPOTTING
>>>>
>>>> Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a
>>>> forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of
>>>> any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be
>>>> causing trouble.
>>>>
>>>> 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of
>>>> their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto
>>>> one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or
>>>> complain to the Moderator.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses
>>>> identical to that of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to
>>>> those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for
>>>> example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five
>>>> usernames for a single account.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire
>>>> diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto
>>>> one that they can control.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
>>>> trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
>>>> created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
>>>> display traits similar to that of the TiQ.
>>>>
>>>> NATURAL PREDATORS
>>>>
>>>> Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
>>>>
>>>> Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator
>>>> can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the
>>>> troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling.
>>>> Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose
>>>> trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating
>>>> to all breeds.
>>>>
>>>> Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to
>>>> possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the
>>>> tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they
>>>> see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in
>>>> the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous.
>>>> Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the
>>>> difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation
>>>> against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified
>>>> when a troll rears its ugly head.
>>>>
>>>> Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
>>>> Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when
>>>> they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to
>>>> equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to
>>>> be underestimated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> FRH