Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

So we can't copy a basketball game for later listening?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Title 17 of the US Code:
> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/
>
> In a nutshell, downloading or otherwise copying/reproducing intellectual
> property without the copyright owner's permission is illegal. You weren't
> making the distinction between criminal and civil law until you were called
> on this statement: "ive stated that i do not break written law"
>
> Reporters don't interpret the law, that's the job of activist judges. :-)
>
> Why don't you tell Kate why DC threatened you with a lawsuit?

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

So we can't copy a basketball game for later listening?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Title 17 of the US Code:
> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/
>
> In a nutshell, downloading or otherwise copying/reproducing intellectual
> property without the copyright owner's permission is illegal. You weren't
> making the distinction between criminal and civil law until you were called
> on this statement: "ive stated that i do not break written law"
>
> Reporters don't interpret the law, that's the job of activist judges. :-)
>
> Why don't you tell Kate why DC threatened you with a lawsuit?

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

There you go again, the little spoiled brat's only way to be noticed. A
real loser.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:59:25 -0700, L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:

>> Well, Bill has his following taken care of.

> I wish, but I'm going to have so many confirmed kills, I'm going to
> have to make a special folder for my domain to show them off in. :-)


So when are you going to post even ONE confirmation to prove you're the
Great Hunter you claim to be? Just one. It's easy. C'mon, just one.

And couldn't help wondering <g>, howcum you never post your vitriol from
your AOL account, hmmmmm?

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

There you go again, the little spoiled brat's only way to be noticed. A
real loser.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:59:25 -0700, L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:

>> Well, Bill has his following taken care of.

> I wish, but I'm going to have so many confirmed kills, I'm going to
> have to make a special folder for my domain to show them off in. :-)


So when are you going to post even ONE confirmation to prove you're the
Great Hunter you claim to be? Just one. It's easy. C'mon, just one.

And couldn't help wondering <g>, howcum you never post your vitriol from
your AOL account, hmmmmm?

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

There you go again, the little spoiled brat's only way to be noticed. A
real loser.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:59:25 -0700, L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:

>> Well, Bill has his following taken care of.

> I wish, but I'm going to have so many confirmed kills, I'm going to
> have to make a special folder for my domain to show them off in. :-)


So when are you going to post even ONE confirmation to prove you're the
Great Hunter you claim to be? Just one. It's easy. C'mon, just one.

And couldn't help wondering <g>, howcum you never post your vitriol from
your AOL account, hmmmmm?

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:U773g.7074$Sa1.26@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message >
> > Your opinions and experiences have some value, but there is such a thing
> > as "not seeing the forest for the trees". This is where I place
> > Nathan, his wolf poacher buddies, your Bosnia experiences,
> > and people that were in Vietnam. You don't know everything,
> > just because "You were there". In fact, "Because you were on
> > the ground", you lack objectivity, that people who have studied
> > things from a distance will have.
>
> I'll ignore the obvious insults, and say you are wrong to think you are
> the only one who is capable of objectivity, and you are foolish to
> think someone with first hand experience doesn't know what he's
> talking about.
>
Now you're playing Nathan's game. I did **not** say that I am the only one
who is capable of objectivity, and I did **not** say that "someone with
first hand experience doesn't know what he's talking about". I **did** say
that lots of people "don't see the forest for the trees". They get in the
middle of a situation, and can't properly assess what is happening, until
years or decades later. They fixate on details, like a dead elk, and jump
to the "obvious" conclusion, "Wolves did it!" Later, if they are lucky
enough, and spend enough time thinking about details, that might have looked
extraneous at the time, they come to the correct conclusion. "I was wrong,
it was dogs/hunters/extraterrestrials. Damn those little green jokesters!"
No one, and I mean no one, thinks that it is happening to him, at the time.

In this particular case, thousands of research hours have been spent, and
dozens of books have been published, by people who have been right there, on
the ground, with wolves. The results have been used to justify the wolf
program. Now why should I doubt those guys, who have relevant university
degrees, the ear of the federal government, and real on the ground
experience, just because some obvious crackpot on Usenet says that they are
screwballs and "liberals"?

For your information, Spain also has a wolf program. Cute little fellers.
It's in Cantabria, one of the wildest remaining places in Europe, and the
last place in the peninsula to be conquered by the Romans.

---snippy---
> How is it then, that someone so "stupid" has drawn you to
> such insults?

Maybe it's because I can't get over the fact, that God created so many
fools.

Earle

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:U773g.7074$Sa1.26@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message >
> > Your opinions and experiences have some value, but there is such a thing
> > as "not seeing the forest for the trees". This is where I place
> > Nathan, his wolf poacher buddies, your Bosnia experiences,
> > and people that were in Vietnam. You don't know everything,
> > just because "You were there". In fact, "Because you were on
> > the ground", you lack objectivity, that people who have studied
> > things from a distance will have.
>
> I'll ignore the obvious insults, and say you are wrong to think you are
> the only one who is capable of objectivity, and you are foolish to
> think someone with first hand experience doesn't know what he's
> talking about.
>
Now you're playing Nathan's game. I did **not** say that I am the only one
who is capable of objectivity, and I did **not** say that "someone with
first hand experience doesn't know what he's talking about". I **did** say
that lots of people "don't see the forest for the trees". They get in the
middle of a situation, and can't properly assess what is happening, until
years or decades later. They fixate on details, like a dead elk, and jump
to the "obvious" conclusion, "Wolves did it!" Later, if they are lucky
enough, and spend enough time thinking about details, that might have looked
extraneous at the time, they come to the correct conclusion. "I was wrong,
it was dogs/hunters/extraterrestrials. Damn those little green jokesters!"
No one, and I mean no one, thinks that it is happening to him, at the time.

In this particular case, thousands of research hours have been spent, and
dozens of books have been published, by people who have been right there, on
the ground, with wolves. The results have been used to justify the wolf
program. Now why should I doubt those guys, who have relevant university
degrees, the ear of the federal government, and real on the ground
experience, just because some obvious crackpot on Usenet says that they are
screwballs and "liberals"?

For your information, Spain also has a wolf program. Cute little fellers.
It's in Cantabria, one of the wildest remaining places in Europe, and the
last place in the peninsula to be conquered by the Romans.

---snippy---
> How is it then, that someone so "stupid" has drawn you to
> such insults?

Maybe it's because I can't get over the fact, that God created so many
fools.

Earle

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:U773g.7074$Sa1.26@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message >
> > Your opinions and experiences have some value, but there is such a thing
> > as "not seeing the forest for the trees". This is where I place
> > Nathan, his wolf poacher buddies, your Bosnia experiences,
> > and people that were in Vietnam. You don't know everything,
> > just because "You were there". In fact, "Because you were on
> > the ground", you lack objectivity, that people who have studied
> > things from a distance will have.
>
> I'll ignore the obvious insults, and say you are wrong to think you are
> the only one who is capable of objectivity, and you are foolish to
> think someone with first hand experience doesn't know what he's
> talking about.
>
Now you're playing Nathan's game. I did **not** say that I am the only one
who is capable of objectivity, and I did **not** say that "someone with
first hand experience doesn't know what he's talking about". I **did** say
that lots of people "don't see the forest for the trees". They get in the
middle of a situation, and can't properly assess what is happening, until
years or decades later. They fixate on details, like a dead elk, and jump
to the "obvious" conclusion, "Wolves did it!" Later, if they are lucky
enough, and spend enough time thinking about details, that might have looked
extraneous at the time, they come to the correct conclusion. "I was wrong,
it was dogs/hunters/extraterrestrials. Damn those little green jokesters!"
No one, and I mean no one, thinks that it is happening to him, at the time.

In this particular case, thousands of research hours have been spent, and
dozens of books have been published, by people who have been right there, on
the ground, with wolves. The results have been used to justify the wolf
program. Now why should I doubt those guys, who have relevant university
degrees, the ear of the federal government, and real on the ground
experience, just because some obvious crackpot on Usenet says that they are
screwballs and "liberals"?

For your information, Spain also has a wolf program. Cute little fellers.
It's in Cantabria, one of the wildest remaining places in Europe, and the
last place in the peninsula to be conquered by the Romans.

---snippy---
> How is it then, that someone so "stupid" has drawn you to
> such insults?

Maybe it's because I can't get over the fact, that God created so many
fools.

Earle

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

There are limited fair use issues, I believe the consensus is you there is
implied permission for recording broadcasts for personal use but the
broadcasters don't really like it. When blank cassette tapes and later VHS
tapes became popular, the recording/movie industries were afraid that it was
so easy to make copies infringement would be wide------, so a portion of the
proceeds from the sale of blank cassettes & videotapes goes to royalties to
offset possible infringement. I imagine part ot Tivo sale proceeds go to
these as well...we have 2 Tivos and that's how I watch the Sopranos and Bill
Maher.

But if you intend to obtain a copy of a copyrighted work without permission
and without paying for it, as Nathan's beloved P2P filesharing programs like
the original incarnation of Napster did, it's copyright infringement, which
is illegal.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:444D6418.51F8BE31@cox.net...
> So we can't copy a basketball game for later listening?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Title 17 of the US Code:
>> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/
>>
>> In a nutshell, downloading or otherwise copying/reproducing intellectual
>> property without the copyright owner's permission is illegal. You weren't
>> making the distinction between criminal and civil law until you were
>> called
>> on this statement: "ive stated that i do not break written law"
>>
>> Reporters don't interpret the law, that's the job of activist judges. :-)
>>
>> Why don't you tell Kate why DC threatened you with a lawsuit?

Re: Off Topic: the reported bear attack
 

There are limited fair use issues, I believe the consensus is you there is
implied permission for recording broadcasts for personal use but the
broadcasters don't really like it. When blank cassette tapes and later VHS
tapes became popular, the recording/movie industries were afraid that it was
so easy to make copies infringement would be wide------, so a portion of the
proceeds from the sale of blank cassettes & videotapes goes to royalties to
offset possible infringement. I imagine part ot Tivo sale proceeds go to
these as well...we have 2 Tivos and that's how I watch the Sopranos and Bill
Maher.

But if you intend to obtain a copy of a copyrighted work without permission
and without paying for it, as Nathan's beloved P2P filesharing programs like
the original incarnation of Napster did, it's copyright infringement, which
is illegal.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:444D6418.51F8BE31@cox.net...
> So we can't copy a basketball game for later listening?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Title 17 of the US Code:
>> http://www.copyright.gov/title17/
>>
>> In a nutshell, downloading or otherwise copying/reproducing intellectual
>> property without the copyright owner's permission is illegal. You weren't
>> making the distinction between criminal and civil law until you were
>> called
>> on this statement: "ive stated that i do not break written law"
>>
>> Reporters don't interpret the law, that's the job of activist judges. :-)
>>
>> Why don't you tell Kate why DC threatened you with a lawsuit?