Pinion angle
05-11-2007, 09:13 PM
#41
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Re: Re: Pinion angle
I don't believe it is possible to have one with dual cardan CV joints.
But you can with ball CV joints, like the ones used on the 2007 wrangler
rear driveshaft (and it is a weaker design that cardan joints).
Anyway, it is an overkill to have a dual CV driveshaft.
Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96XJ, '06 TJ.
Ο "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
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> Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant
> imagine 4 joints on a single driveshaft...
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vspili@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f232hq$9nj$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr...
>>> Not a bad idea on the shiming until lift is installed but if he goes
>>> with a double CV set up (CV's on both ends of driveshaft) it will not
>>> be a issue at all.
>>
>> I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for
>> a Wrangler.
>> The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to
>> accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends.
>> Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require
>> ordering and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more
>> expensive than using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't
>> justify the extra engineering just for a 2.5" lift.
>>
>> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
>> '96XJ, '06 TJ.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
But you can with ball CV joints, like the ones used on the 2007 wrangler
rear driveshaft (and it is a weaker design that cardan joints).
Anyway, it is an overkill to have a dual CV driveshaft.
Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96XJ, '06 TJ.
Ο "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
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> Wouldnt a CV on each end cause the shaft to flop up and down? I cant
> imagine 4 joints on a single driveshaft...
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vspili@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f232hq$9nj$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr...
>>> Not a bad idea on the shiming until lift is installed but if he goes
>>> with a double CV set up (CV's on both ends of driveshaft) it will not
>>> be a issue at all.
>>
>> I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for
>> a Wrangler.
>> The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to
>> accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends.
>> Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require
>> ordering and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more
>> expensive than using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't
>> justify the extra engineering just for a 2.5" lift.
>>
>> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
>> '96XJ, '06 TJ.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
05-12-2007, 01:46 AM
#42
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Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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05-12-2007, 01:46 AM
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Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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05-12-2007, 01:46 AM
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Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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05-12-2007, 01:46 AM
#45
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Re: Pinion angle
Yup: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178906375.283917.287930@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
> I bought a Cherokee Dana 44 today and am trying to decide the best way
> to install it. The vehicle is a '95 Yj with 2.5L engine and all stock
> drivetrain and no lift. The stock drive shaft length between u-joint
> cap centers is 14.5 inches. The doubt arises because I plan to lift
> the jeep 2.5 inches next year using leaf spring lift only.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) stick with single cardan drive shafts: Will the angles be Ok after
> the lift with a SYE and Transfer case output and pinion parallel to
> each other?
>
> 2) go with CV style driveshaft: Should the Dana 44 be installed with
> some upward angle on the pinion (with no lift, maybe using shims to
> lower it to parallel for now) to avoid rewelding to rotate once the
> lift is in place?
>
> My main goal is to maximize reliability. Which would be the best
> option to choose?
>
> Thanks
>
--
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05-12-2007, 09:38 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Pinion angle
On Sat, 12 May 2007 03:42:51 +0300, "Bill Spiliotopoulos"
<vspili@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for a
>Wrangler.
>The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to
>accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends.
>Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require ordering
>and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more expensive than
>using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't justify the extra
>engineering just for a 2.5" lift.
When ever I need a speacail drive shaft, I have it built at a local
drive shaft shop. I do not depend on online prefabbed ones. Even if I
wind up paying a few extra bucks, I also wind up getting EXACTALLY
what I want, not the closest fitting off shelve unit. Because of this
I never really looked at what is availble ready made so I cannot
comment on ready made over the counter solutions.
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<vspili@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am not aware if it is possible to have a double CV rear driveshaft for a
>Wrangler.
>The driveshaft is so short that there might not be enough length to
>accommodate the slip joint and CVs at both ends.
>Also I haven't seen one provided off-the-self, so it would require ordering
>and buiding to specifications, which would probably be more expensive than
>using the common way of a single CV shaft. It wouldn't justify the extra
>engineering just for a 2.5" lift.
When ever I need a speacail drive shaft, I have it built at a local
drive shaft shop. I do not depend on online prefabbed ones. Even if I
wind up paying a few extra bucks, I also wind up getting EXACTALLY
what I want, not the closest fitting off shelve unit. Because of this
I never really looked at what is availble ready made so I cannot
comment on ready made over the counter solutions.
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