Ping > Nathan - welding question
01-18-2004, 02:30 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
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> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:30 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:30 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:34 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map
gas.
the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.
> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my
chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:A7BOb.2103$Rw5.1351@news01.roc.ny...
> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map
gas.
the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.
> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my
chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:34 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map
gas.
the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.
> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my
chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:A7BOb.2103$Rw5.1351@news01.roc.ny...
> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map
gas.
the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.
> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my
chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:34 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map
gas.
the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.
> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my
chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:A7BOb.2103$Rw5.1351@news01.roc.ny...
> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map
gas.
the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.
> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my
chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:42 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
I considered a swing design off one corner, but I have yet to see one that
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 02:42 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
I considered a swing design off one corner, but I have yet to see one that
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 02:42 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
I considered a swing design off one corner, but I have yet to see one that
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 03:21 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
proposed design:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > if you dont have access to a table,
> > using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> > forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces
together.
>
> what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:f9BOb.254669$dl.13529149@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > if you dont have access to a table,
> > using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> > forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces
together.
>
> what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>