Ping > Nathan - welding question
01-18-2004, 01:59 PM
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Ping > Nathan - welding question
I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
__| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
__| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 02:15 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:15 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:15 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-18-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
Hi Jim,
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
Hi Jim,
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
Hi Jim,
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
01-18-2004, 02:28 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map gas.
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld
them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to
form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for
clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack
the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent
distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld
them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to
form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for
clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack
the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent
distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
01-18-2004, 02:28 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map gas.
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld
them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to
form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for
clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack
the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent
distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld
them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to
form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for
clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack
the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent
distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
01-18-2004, 02:28 PM
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Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map gas.
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld
them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to
form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for
clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack
the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent
distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can
you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld
them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to
form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for
clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack
the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent
distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>