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JimG 01-18-2004 01:59 PM

Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.

__| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.

What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries



Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:15 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.


hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:15 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.


hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:15 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.


hi jim,
what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld them
together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to form
a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for clamping
the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack the
pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent distortion....if
tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-18-2004 02:27 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Hi Jim,
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-18-2004 02:27 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Hi Jim,
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-18-2004 02:27 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Hi Jim,
I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JimG wrote:
>
> I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can you
> provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
>
> __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
>
> What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


JimG 01-18-2004 02:28 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map gas.
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can

you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.

>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld

them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to

form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for

clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack

the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent

distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 02:28 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map gas.
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can

you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.

>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld

them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to

form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for

clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack

the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent

distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 02:28 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map gas.
Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my chop
saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:aIAOb.2101$lx5.2094@news01.roc.ny...
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can

you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.

>
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? what process will you be using to weld

them
> together? based upon what youve given me so far i recommend cutting the
> tubing at 45 degree angles so that the two pieces will come together to

form
> a 90 degree angle. lay them flat on a steel work table and position them
> together and clamp them to the table. if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.
> personally i prefer the 11" vice grip c-clamps with swivel pads for

clamping
> the two together because the swivel pad assures even positioning. tack

the
> pieces together with tacks on each corner before welding and when you weld
> do opposite sides first. tacking is the secret to prevent

distortion....if
> tacked adequately with clamps it should be fine.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:30 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.


what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:30 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.


what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:30 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> if you dont have access to a table,
> using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces together.


what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:A7BOb.2103$Rw5.1351@news01.roc.ny...
> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map

gas.

the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.

> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my

chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.


nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com





Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:A7BOb.2103$Rw5.1351@news01.roc.ny...
> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map

gas.

the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.

> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my

chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.


nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com





Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:A7BOb.2103$Rw5.1351@news01.roc.ny...
> Wall is 3/16". I will weld with a Craftsman 20559 wire feed mig w/map

gas.

the 20559 is capable of 1/4" so you should be fine there.

> Are the 45's neccessary? Not sure how accurate I can cut a 45 with my

chop
> saw. I do want strength... my 35's are heavy.


nah, the 45's arent "necessary" at all.....although they do add strength
(more surface contact) just butting the horizontal to the vertical piece
will be plenty strong also. it just cleans up the look a little but if
thats not an issue dont bother with it.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com





JimG 01-18-2004 02:42 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
I considered a swing design off one corner, but I have yet to see one that
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.

JimG

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can

you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries




JimG 01-18-2004 02:42 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
I considered a swing design off one corner, but I have yet to see one that
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.

JimG

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can

you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries




JimG 01-18-2004 02:42 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
I considered a swing design off one corner, but I have yet to see one that
holds up at the swivel point. Most will bind up or develop slop (not that
this one will be perfect either). The receiver design can be easily removed
for a better design in the future. At this point, the only other thing I
use the receiver for is one of those carry-all racks. The spare would then
have to be thrown to the side and left behind.

JimG

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400ADE3C.DD42551C@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> I think you could go back to the drawing board, and design a
> triangular frame off a corner of the body and bumper. You may not have
> storage space for your spare when you need to use the two inch receiver.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am making a spare tire carrier that plugs into my 2" receiver. Can

you
> > provide tip on welding two pieces of 2" square stock at right angles.
> >
> > __| < this piece on top of the one that plugs in.
> >
> > What are the heat issues and how to avoid distortion.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries




JimG 01-18-2004 03:21 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
proposed design:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg


"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:f9BOb.254669$dl.13529149@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > if you dont have access to a table,
> > using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> > forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces

together.
>
> what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:21 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
proposed design:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg


"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:f9BOb.254669$dl.13529149@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > if you dont have access to a table,
> > using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> > forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces

together.
>
> what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:21 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
proposed design:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg


"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:f9BOb.254669$dl.13529149@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:hXAOb.254407$dl.13526111@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > if you dont have access to a table,
> > using another piece of tubing will work, just lay it all out so that it
> > forms a big triangle and use a large c-clamp to clamp the pieces

together.
>
> what i meant by that is doing this. http://CollierWelding.com/jim.jpg
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 03:24 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> proposed design:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg


your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
vertical support and the tailgate?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 03:24 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> proposed design:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg


your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
vertical support and the tailgate?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 03:24 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> proposed design:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg


your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
vertical support and the tailgate?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




JimG 01-18-2004 03:39 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.bmp

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> > proposed design:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg

>
> your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
> vertical support and the tailgate?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:39 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.bmp

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:BXBOb.240657$Vu5.17646785@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> > proposed design:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg

>
> your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
> vertical support and the tailgate?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:39 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.bmp

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:BXBOb.240657$Vu5.17646785@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> > proposed design:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg

>
> your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
> vertical support and the tailgate?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:50 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
even better:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:BXBOb.240657$Vu5.17646785@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> > proposed design:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg

>
> your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
> vertical support and the tailgate?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:50 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
even better:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:BXBOb.240657$Vu5.17646785@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> > proposed design:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg

>
> your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
> vertical support and the tailgate?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 03:50 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
even better:
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:BXBOb.240657$Vu5.17646785@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sVBOb.3235$ex1.61@news02.roc.ny...
> > proposed design:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireCarrier.jpg

>
> your drawing confused me. it appears as if you want the tire between the
> vertical support and the tailgate?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 04:22 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:tkCOb.3262$RF1.3111@news02.roc.ny...
> even better:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG


how thick is that plate? you could make that work, but im curious why you
prefer that over something more like this for simplicity.

http://CollierWelding.com/jim1.jpg


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Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 04:22 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:tkCOb.3262$RF1.3111@news02.roc.ny...
> even better:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG


how thick is that plate? you could make that work, but im curious why you
prefer that over something more like this for simplicity.

http://CollierWelding.com/jim1.jpg


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 01-18-2004 04:22 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:tkCOb.3262$RF1.3111@news02.roc.ny...
> even better:
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG


how thick is that plate? you could make that work, but im curious why you
prefer that over something more like this for simplicity.

http://CollierWelding.com/jim1.jpg


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




JimG 01-18-2004 04:48 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
The plate is also 3/16". Without the offset (back to the Jeep), it would
put the tire to far out (from the Jeep)... it's going to affect my departure
angle regardless... just want to minimize what sticks out. With the offset
on to the bumper, it will help carry the weight (notice the top tube sits
flat on the angle iron bumper).

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:9OCOb.240916$Vu5.17657850@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:tkCOb.3262$RF1.3111@news02.roc.ny...
> > even better:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG

>
> how thick is that plate? you could make that work, but im curious why you
> prefer that over something more like this for simplicity.
>
> http://CollierWelding.com/jim1.jpg
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 04:48 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
The plate is also 3/16". Without the offset (back to the Jeep), it would
put the tire to far out (from the Jeep)... it's going to affect my departure
angle regardless... just want to minimize what sticks out. With the offset
on to the bumper, it will help carry the weight (notice the top tube sits
flat on the angle iron bumper).

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:9OCOb.240916$Vu5.17657850@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:tkCOb.3262$RF1.3111@news02.roc.ny...
> > even better:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG

>
> how thick is that plate? you could make that work, but im curious why you
> prefer that over something more like this for simplicity.
>
> http://CollierWelding.com/jim1.jpg
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




JimG 01-18-2004 04:48 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
The plate is also 3/16". Without the offset (back to the Jeep), it would
put the tire to far out (from the Jeep)... it's going to affect my departure
angle regardless... just want to minimize what sticks out. With the offset
on to the bumper, it will help carry the weight (notice the top tube sits
flat on the angle iron bumper).

JimG

"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:9OCOb.240916$Vu5.17657850@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:tkCOb.3262$RF1.3111@news02.roc.ny...
> > even better:
> > http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/TireRack1.JPG

>
> how thick is that plate? you could make that work, but im curious why you
> prefer that over something more like this for simplicity.
>
> http://CollierWelding.com/jim1.jpg
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>




twaldron 01-18-2004 06:21 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Just a little too personal for the NG, Nathan.... :)

Nathan Collier wrote:
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? (SNIP)


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Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
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twaldron 01-18-2004 06:21 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Just a little too personal for the NG, Nathan.... :)

Nathan Collier wrote:
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? (SNIP)


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__________________________________________________ _________
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03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 01-18-2004 06:21 PM

Re: Ping > Nathan - welding question
 
Just a little too personal for the NG, Nathan.... :)

Nathan Collier wrote:
> hi jim,
> what thickness is your tubing? (SNIP)


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________



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