pcv breather smoking
09-19-2007, 03:32 PM
#11
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Re: pcv breather smoking
88yj wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:18 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 88yj wrote:
>>> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
>>> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
<snip>
It might of just been out
> of gas the whole time. i put a gallon in it today and its been
> running fine.
You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
>
>
> i looked closer at the pcv going from the breather to the air filter
> but didnt see any oil, whether car was running or not. i also noticed
> a little white or maybe grey smoke from the exhuast. i believe it
> stopped but might be relevant. i am not sure what you mean by
> rattling the front of the pcv valve. are we talking about the same
> hose as the breather or a different one, if so where, and even if you
> do mean the same one, where should it rattle? i also am not sure
> where the gas tank vent is either, so i have not yet checked the
> filter. ive been looking for a diagram to find it but havent had any
> luck yet.
>
The PCV valve is stuck in the top front of the valve cover. It has a
tube running to the back of the carb along side the valve cover. You
pull this valve out of the top of the valve cover and shake it.
The hose running from the back top of the valve cover is the air
'intake' to the engine, that is why it has a little filter in there.
Some white smoke coming out of this at certain times is normal, the PCV
valve will suck most of these fumes back into the base of the carb if
they don't go in the top, but the PCV does 'not' suck all the time.
Here is a good site you should browse around:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
The charcoal canister is 'Waaaayyyy' down under the washer bottle at the
bottom of the inside fender.
I moved mine up under my brake booster to keep it out of the mud...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> On Sep 19, 12:18 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 88yj wrote:
>>> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
>>> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
<snip>
It might of just been out
> of gas the whole time. i put a gallon in it today and its been
> running fine.
You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
>
>
> i looked closer at the pcv going from the breather to the air filter
> but didnt see any oil, whether car was running or not. i also noticed
> a little white or maybe grey smoke from the exhuast. i believe it
> stopped but might be relevant. i am not sure what you mean by
> rattling the front of the pcv valve. are we talking about the same
> hose as the breather or a different one, if so where, and even if you
> do mean the same one, where should it rattle? i also am not sure
> where the gas tank vent is either, so i have not yet checked the
> filter. ive been looking for a diagram to find it but havent had any
> luck yet.
>
The PCV valve is stuck in the top front of the valve cover. It has a
tube running to the back of the carb along side the valve cover. You
pull this valve out of the top of the valve cover and shake it.
The hose running from the back top of the valve cover is the air
'intake' to the engine, that is why it has a little filter in there.
Some white smoke coming out of this at certain times is normal, the PCV
valve will suck most of these fumes back into the base of the carb if
they don't go in the top, but the PCV does 'not' suck all the time.
Here is a good site you should browse around:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
The charcoal canister is 'Waaaayyyy' down under the washer bottle at the
bottom of the inside fender.
I moved mine up under my brake booster to keep it out of the mud...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
09-19-2007, 03:32 PM
#12
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Re: pcv breather smoking
88yj wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:18 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 88yj wrote:
>>> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
>>> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
<snip>
It might of just been out
> of gas the whole time. i put a gallon in it today and its been
> running fine.
You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
>
>
> i looked closer at the pcv going from the breather to the air filter
> but didnt see any oil, whether car was running or not. i also noticed
> a little white or maybe grey smoke from the exhuast. i believe it
> stopped but might be relevant. i am not sure what you mean by
> rattling the front of the pcv valve. are we talking about the same
> hose as the breather or a different one, if so where, and even if you
> do mean the same one, where should it rattle? i also am not sure
> where the gas tank vent is either, so i have not yet checked the
> filter. ive been looking for a diagram to find it but havent had any
> luck yet.
>
The PCV valve is stuck in the top front of the valve cover. It has a
tube running to the back of the carb along side the valve cover. You
pull this valve out of the top of the valve cover and shake it.
The hose running from the back top of the valve cover is the air
'intake' to the engine, that is why it has a little filter in there.
Some white smoke coming out of this at certain times is normal, the PCV
valve will suck most of these fumes back into the base of the carb if
they don't go in the top, but the PCV does 'not' suck all the time.
Here is a good site you should browse around:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
The charcoal canister is 'Waaaayyyy' down under the washer bottle at the
bottom of the inside fender.
I moved mine up under my brake booster to keep it out of the mud...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sep 19, 12:18 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 88yj wrote:
>>> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
>>> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
<snip>
It might of just been out
> of gas the whole time. i put a gallon in it today and its been
> running fine.
You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
>
>
> i looked closer at the pcv going from the breather to the air filter
> but didnt see any oil, whether car was running or not. i also noticed
> a little white or maybe grey smoke from the exhuast. i believe it
> stopped but might be relevant. i am not sure what you mean by
> rattling the front of the pcv valve. are we talking about the same
> hose as the breather or a different one, if so where, and even if you
> do mean the same one, where should it rattle? i also am not sure
> where the gas tank vent is either, so i have not yet checked the
> filter. ive been looking for a diagram to find it but havent had any
> luck yet.
>
The PCV valve is stuck in the top front of the valve cover. It has a
tube running to the back of the carb along side the valve cover. You
pull this valve out of the top of the valve cover and shake it.
The hose running from the back top of the valve cover is the air
'intake' to the engine, that is why it has a little filter in there.
Some white smoke coming out of this at certain times is normal, the PCV
valve will suck most of these fumes back into the base of the carb if
they don't go in the top, but the PCV does 'not' suck all the time.
Here is a good site you should browse around:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
The charcoal canister is 'Waaaayyyy' down under the washer bottle at the
bottom of the inside fender.
I moved mine up under my brake booster to keep it out of the mud...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
09-19-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
88yj wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:18 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 88yj wrote:
>>> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
>>> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
<snip>
It might of just been out
> of gas the whole time. i put a gallon in it today and its been
> running fine.
You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
>
>
> i looked closer at the pcv going from the breather to the air filter
> but didnt see any oil, whether car was running or not. i also noticed
> a little white or maybe grey smoke from the exhuast. i believe it
> stopped but might be relevant. i am not sure what you mean by
> rattling the front of the pcv valve. are we talking about the same
> hose as the breather or a different one, if so where, and even if you
> do mean the same one, where should it rattle? i also am not sure
> where the gas tank vent is either, so i have not yet checked the
> filter. ive been looking for a diagram to find it but havent had any
> luck yet.
>
The PCV valve is stuck in the top front of the valve cover. It has a
tube running to the back of the carb along side the valve cover. You
pull this valve out of the top of the valve cover and shake it.
The hose running from the back top of the valve cover is the air
'intake' to the engine, that is why it has a little filter in there.
Some white smoke coming out of this at certain times is normal, the PCV
valve will suck most of these fumes back into the base of the carb if
they don't go in the top, but the PCV does 'not' suck all the time.
Here is a good site you should browse around:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
The charcoal canister is 'Waaaayyyy' down under the washer bottle at the
bottom of the inside fender.
I moved mine up under my brake booster to keep it out of the mud...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sep 19, 12:18 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 88yj wrote:
>>> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
>>> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
<snip>
It might of just been out
> of gas the whole time. i put a gallon in it today and its been
> running fine.
You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
>
>
> i looked closer at the pcv going from the breather to the air filter
> but didnt see any oil, whether car was running or not. i also noticed
> a little white or maybe grey smoke from the exhuast. i believe it
> stopped but might be relevant. i am not sure what you mean by
> rattling the front of the pcv valve. are we talking about the same
> hose as the breather or a different one, if so where, and even if you
> do mean the same one, where should it rattle? i also am not sure
> where the gas tank vent is either, so i have not yet checked the
> filter. ive been looking for a diagram to find it but havent had any
> luck yet.
>
The PCV valve is stuck in the top front of the valve cover. It has a
tube running to the back of the carb along side the valve cover. You
pull this valve out of the top of the valve cover and shake it.
The hose running from the back top of the valve cover is the air
'intake' to the engine, that is why it has a little filter in there.
Some white smoke coming out of this at certain times is normal, the PCV
valve will suck most of these fumes back into the base of the carb if
they don't go in the top, but the PCV does 'not' suck all the time.
Here is a good site you should browse around:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
The charcoal canister is 'Waaaayyyy' down under the washer bottle at the
bottom of the inside fender.
I moved mine up under my brake booster to keep it out of the mud...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Ditto. No matter how humiliating it may be to admit it, I get down and
suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
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> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Ditto. No matter how humiliating it may be to admit it, I get down and
suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f178a9$0$6245$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Ditto. No matter how humiliating it may be to admit it, I get down and
suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f178a9$0$6245$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f178a9$0$6245$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
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> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Ditto. No matter how humiliating it may be to admit it, I get down and
suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46f178a9$0$6245$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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suck the gas out of the hose to eliminate one in the process of elimination.
And we see that in the first seconds of an engine diagnosis contest for
school kids.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> You wouldn't be the first person to get caught that way...
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09-19-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Poor oil change maintenance and the cheapest gasoline will clog the
orifice port just below the carburetor plate, clean all connections:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985 And
convert it to a Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve like on this very
helpful page at: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
> internet tells me the piston rings are bad and combustion is occuring
> where it should not. are there any other possibilities? (preferably
> with an easier fix). can it cause further damage to the engine by
> running it as this is happening? should i unplug it? is it bad for
> this smoke to get back to the air filter and down the carb?
>
> any help is appreciated. thanks
>
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orifice port just below the carburetor plate, clean all connections:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985 And
convert it to a Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve like on this very
helpful page at: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190216691.167522.117550@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
> internet tells me the piston rings are bad and combustion is occuring
> where it should not. are there any other possibilities? (preferably
> with an easier fix). can it cause further damage to the engine by
> running it as this is happening? should i unplug it? is it bad for
> this smoke to get back to the air filter and down the carb?
>
> any help is appreciated. thanks
>
--
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09-19-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Poor oil change maintenance and the cheapest gasoline will clog the
orifice port just below the carburetor plate, clean all connections:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985 And
convert it to a Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve like on this very
helpful page at: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190216691.167522.117550@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
> internet tells me the piston rings are bad and combustion is occuring
> where it should not. are there any other possibilities? (preferably
> with an easier fix). can it cause further damage to the engine by
> running it as this is happening? should i unplug it? is it bad for
> this smoke to get back to the air filter and down the carb?
>
> any help is appreciated. thanks
>
--
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orifice port just below the carburetor plate, clean all connections:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985 And
convert it to a Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve like on this very
helpful page at: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190216691.167522.117550@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
> internet tells me the piston rings are bad and combustion is occuring
> where it should not. are there any other possibilities? (preferably
> with an easier fix). can it cause further damage to the engine by
> running it as this is happening? should i unplug it? is it bad for
> this smoke to get back to the air filter and down the carb?
>
> any help is appreciated. thanks
>
--
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09-19-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: pcv breather smoking
Poor oil change maintenance and the cheapest gasoline will clog the
orifice port just below the carburetor plate, clean all connections:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985 And
convert it to a Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve like on this very
helpful page at: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190216691.167522.117550@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
> internet tells me the piston rings are bad and combustion is occuring
> where it should not. are there any other possibilities? (preferably
> with an easier fix). can it cause further damage to the engine by
> running it as this is happening? should i unplug it? is it bad for
> this smoke to get back to the air filter and down the carb?
>
> any help is appreciated. thanks
>
--
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orifice port just below the carburetor plate, clean all connections:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=257985 And
convert it to a Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve like on this very
helpful page at: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190216691.167522.117550@57g2000hsv.googlegro ups.com...
> when my car is running, usually after it gets hot, the pcv breather
> starts blowing white smoke. what is causing this?
> internet tells me the piston rings are bad and combustion is occuring
> where it should not. are there any other possibilities? (preferably
> with an easier fix). can it cause further damage to the engine by
> running it as this is happening? should i unplug it? is it bad for
> this smoke to get back to the air filter and down the carb?
>
> any help is appreciated. thanks
>
--
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