Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men.
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > As Bill mentioned the answer is that you should not drive on pavement with
> > your part time (Select-Trac) engaged.
> >
> > The reason is that when part time 4 wheel drive is engaged the front and
> > real axles are locked together and therefore turn at the same speed.
> >
> > If you were only to drive in a straight line this would be no problem as the
> > front and rear tires would all be traveling at the same speed.
> >
> > However, as you recall from driving in the snow or rain, in a turn the tires
> > stop following two parallel tracks and start following 4 separate tracks and
> > each track had the tires traveling different distances at different speeds.
> >
> > This leads to the tires being dragged either in relative acceleration or
> > deceleration which scrubs the tires and puts additional strain on the
> > driveline and suspension components.
> >
> > There is a nice picture that shows the problems at:
> > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...bc.com/4WD101/
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
Umm, isn't that called 'SelecTrac'? It has a full time 4x4 mode that
can be switched to part time when needed doesn't it?
I have 'CommandTrac' which is only a part time system.
Mike
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88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > As Bill mentioned the answer is that you should not drive on pavement with
> > your part time (Select-Trac) engaged.
> >
> > The reason is that when part time 4 wheel drive is engaged the front and
> > real axles are locked together and therefore turn at the same speed.
> >
> > If you were only to drive in a straight line this would be no problem as the
> > front and rear tires would all be traveling at the same speed.
> >
> > However, as you recall from driving in the snow or rain, in a turn the tires
> > stop following two parallel tracks and start following 4 separate tracks and
> > each track had the tires traveling different distances at different speeds.
> >
> > This leads to the tires being dragged either in relative acceleration or
> > deceleration which scrubs the tires and puts additional strain on the
> > driveline and suspension components.
> >
> > There is a nice picture that shows the problems at:
> > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...bc.com/4WD101/
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
Umm, isn't that called 'SelecTrac'? It has a full time 4x4 mode that
can be switched to part time when needed doesn't it?
I have 'CommandTrac' which is only a part time system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > As Bill mentioned the answer is that you should not drive on pavement with
> > your part time (Select-Trac) engaged.
> >
> > The reason is that when part time 4 wheel drive is engaged the front and
> > real axles are locked together and therefore turn at the same speed.
> >
> > If you were only to drive in a straight line this would be no problem as the
> > front and rear tires would all be traveling at the same speed.
> >
> > However, as you recall from driving in the snow or rain, in a turn the tires
> > stop following two parallel tracks and start following 4 separate tracks and
> > each track had the tires traveling different distances at different speeds.
> >
> > This leads to the tires being dragged either in relative acceleration or
> > deceleration which scrubs the tires and puts additional strain on the
> > driveline and suspension components.
> >
> > There is a nice picture that shows the problems at:
> > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...bc.com/4WD101/
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
Umm, isn't that called 'SelecTrac'? It has a full time 4x4 mode that
can be switched to part time when needed doesn't it?
I have 'CommandTrac' which is only a part time system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > As Bill mentioned the answer is that you should not drive on pavement with
> > your part time (Select-Trac) engaged.
> >
> > The reason is that when part time 4 wheel drive is engaged the front and
> > real axles are locked together and therefore turn at the same speed.
> >
> > If you were only to drive in a straight line this would be no problem as the
> > front and rear tires would all be traveling at the same speed.
> >
> > However, as you recall from driving in the snow or rain, in a turn the tires
> > stop following two parallel tracks and start following 4 separate tracks and
> > each track had the tires traveling different distances at different speeds.
> >
> > This leads to the tires being dragged either in relative acceleration or
> > deceleration which scrubs the tires and puts additional strain on the
> > driveline and suspension components.
> >
> > There is a nice picture that shows the problems at:
> > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...bc.com/4WD101/
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
Umm, isn't that called 'SelecTrac'? It has a full time 4x4 mode that
can be switched to part time when needed doesn't it?
I have 'CommandTrac' which is only a part time system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > As Bill mentioned the answer is that you should not drive on pavement with
> > your part time (Select-Trac) engaged.
> >
> > The reason is that when part time 4 wheel drive is engaged the front and
> > real axles are locked together and therefore turn at the same speed.
> >
> > If you were only to drive in a straight line this would be no problem as the
> > front and rear tires would all be traveling at the same speed.
> >
> > However, as you recall from driving in the snow or rain, in a turn the tires
> > stop following two parallel tracks and start following 4 separate tracks and
> > each track had the tires traveling different distances at different speeds.
> >
> > This leads to the tires being dragged either in relative acceleration or
> > deceleration which scrubs the tires and puts additional strain on the
> > driveline and suspension components.
> >
> > There is a nice picture that shows the problems at:
> > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...bc.com/4WD101/
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
Umm, isn't that called 'SelecTrac'? It has a full time 4x4 mode that
can be switched to part time when needed doesn't it?
I have 'CommandTrac' which is only a part time system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > As Bill mentioned the answer is that you should not drive on pavement with
> > your part time (Select-Trac) engaged.
> >
> > The reason is that when part time 4 wheel drive is engaged the front and
> > real axles are locked together and therefore turn at the same speed.
> >
> > If you were only to drive in a straight line this would be no problem as the
> > front and rear tires would all be traveling at the same speed.
> >
> > However, as you recall from driving in the snow or rain, in a turn the tires
> > stop following two parallel tracks and start following 4 separate tracks and
> > each track had the tires traveling different distances at different speeds.
> >
> > This leads to the tires being dragged either in relative acceleration or
> > deceleration which scrubs the tires and puts additional strain on the
> > driveline and suspension components.
> >
> > There is a nice picture that shows the problems at:
> > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...bc.com/4WD101/
>
> A truly well designed 4WD vehicle would have a center diff or viscous
> coupling which could be llocked when necessary.
Umm, isn't that called 'SelecTrac'? It has a full time 4x4 mode that
can be switched to part time when needed doesn't it?
I have 'CommandTrac' which is only a part time system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
< Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
name of the list but...
Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
job ;)
John
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
name of the list but...
Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
job ;)
John
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
< Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
name of the list but...
Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
job ;)
John
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
name of the list but...
Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
job ;)
John
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
< Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
name of the list but...
Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
job ;)
John
effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
all
gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
name of the list but...
Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
job ;)
John
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Re: Part time 4WD: off pavement only??
Mr Muddy wrote:
>
> < Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
> effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
> all
> gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
>
> Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
> name of the list but...
> Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
> has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
> job ;)
>
> John
But, does it have a 'full time' mode with a coupler?
My Dana 300 T-case is pretty much bullet proof!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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>
> < Except, no manufacturer has designed one without seriously
> effecting the strength of their transfer. Of course none of the Real
> all
> gear transfers would have one, they're designed for men>
>
> Not quite so. Perhaps not the correct place to mention it given the
> name of the list but...
> Land Rovers LT230 transfercase has proven pretty well bullet proof and
> has a locking centre diff with full time 4x4. Yes this is an all gear
> job ;)
>
> John
But, does it have a 'full time' mode with a coupler?
My Dana 300 T-case is pretty much bullet proof!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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