"over-run" brakes?
04-17-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which
> disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg.
another factor to consider is tongue weight. to properly pull a 4000 pound
trailer you need 400 pounds of tongue weight to prevent swaying. 400 pounds
of tongue weight would make my tj pop a wheelie. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:2Mx8e.14187$G8.2040@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which
> disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg.
another factor to consider is tongue weight. to properly pull a 4000 pound
trailer you need 400 pounds of tongue weight to prevent swaying. 400 pounds
of tongue weight would make my tj pop a wheelie. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 04:08 PM
#32
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2Mx8e.14187$G8.2040@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which
> disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg.
another factor to consider is tongue weight. to properly pull a 4000 pound
trailer you need 400 pounds of tongue weight to prevent swaying. 400 pounds
of tongue weight would make my tj pop a wheelie. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:2Mx8e.14187$G8.2040@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which
> disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg.
another factor to consider is tongue weight. to properly pull a 4000 pound
trailer you need 400 pounds of tongue weight to prevent swaying. 400 pounds
of tongue weight would make my tj pop a wheelie. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 04:08 PM
#33
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2Mx8e.14187$G8.2040@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which
> disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg.
another factor to consider is tongue weight. to properly pull a 4000 pound
trailer you need 400 pounds of tongue weight to prevent swaying. 400 pounds
of tongue weight would make my tj pop a wheelie. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:2Mx8e.14187$G8.2040@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Jeep TJs towing capacity with over-run brakes, which as Nathan said is
> simply a telescopic hitch which when compressed applies the brakes and
> which
> disengages when you reverse , is 2000kg.
another factor to consider is tongue weight. to properly pull a 4000 pound
trailer you need 400 pounds of tongue weight to prevent swaying. 400 pounds
of tongue weight would make my tj pop a wheelie. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 08:14 PM
#37
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:bb0561hqvvpq0cted1o00oecdova60rl5c@4ax.com...
> For most electric controllers, I agree 100% - they are a PITA to
> adjust and even worse to use on the highway. Most controllers are a
> band aid fix and IMHO totally unsatisfactory for a serious tow rig.
> This one isn't junk - it's a great piece of equipment:
>
> http://www.jordanbrake.com/
it looks like a good unit but unless im missing something i dont see how it
corrects the weaknesses i listed.
> Once you learn the necessary amperage for different conditions, it's
> dead simple to increase or decrease the current
bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
04-17-2005, 10:22 PM
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:14:03 -0600, "Nathan W. Collier"
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:
>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.
I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.
Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(
I give them all a wide berth....
John
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:
>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.
I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.
Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(
I give them all a wide berth....
John
04-17-2005, 10:22 PM
#39
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:14:03 -0600, "Nathan W. Collier"
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:
>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.
I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.
Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(
I give them all a wide berth....
John
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:
>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.
I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.
Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(
I give them all a wide berth....
John
04-17-2005, 10:22 PM
#40
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Re: "over-run" brakes?
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:14:03 -0600, "Nathan W. Collier"
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:
>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.
I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.
Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(
I give them all a wide berth....
John
<MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote:
>bottom line, if you werent there to supervise/explain would you let your
>wife tow an 8000 pound camper from billings to helena (using the jordon
>brake controller) and trust that she will be able to make the proper
>adjustments on the fly? i think this is the biggest reason i ordered surge,
>so that my wife could pull it with confidence.
Well, I don't like to even let my wife drive my truck, period.
I think you made the prudent decision with surge brakes, in your
situation.
Knowledge is power - the thing that scares me most is clueless travel
trailer owners bombing down the freeway with no concept of how their
rigs behave under marginal conditions, what their trailers actually
weigh and how much tongue weight they have. Or even if their brakes
are working or how much air is in the tires ;(
I give them all a wide berth....
John