Out of 4wd Hard
10-02-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi
at
> around 50mph
NEVER DO THAT AGAIN.
Your tcase does not like hard surfaces, and the resulting bang is an
indicator of how much it doesn't like what you did.
since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more
time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
No. It is the extremely good traction that is binding the tcase that caused
this.
10-02-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Pete's gears are in a bind and he needs to turn the wheels and back
up a few feet to be able to release the four wheels from each other.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your linkage is out in the open under there and likely is full of dirt
> or in bad need of a grease job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
up a few feet to be able to release the four wheels from each other.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your linkage is out in the open under there and likely is full of dirt
> or in bad need of a grease job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-02-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Pete's gears are in a bind and he needs to turn the wheels and back
up a few feet to be able to release the four wheels from each other.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your linkage is out in the open under there and likely is full of dirt
> or in bad need of a grease job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
up a few feet to be able to release the four wheels from each other.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Your linkage is out in the open under there and likely is full of dirt
> or in bad need of a grease job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-02-2003, 02:41 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
You are right Bill, I was off base there.
I went back and read the manual and only in my CJ7 am I supposed to lock
the hubs and drive it in 2 wheel drive once a month with the hubs locked
to lub the front axles and bearings.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
> wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
> disengaged.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
> >
> > I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> > in the winter.
> >
> > And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> > a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I went back and read the manual and only in my CJ7 am I supposed to lock
the hubs and drive it in 2 wheel drive once a month with the hubs locked
to lub the front axles and bearings.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
> wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
> disengaged.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
> >
> > I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> > in the winter.
> >
> > And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> > a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-02-2003, 02:41 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
You are right Bill, I was off base there.
I went back and read the manual and only in my CJ7 am I supposed to lock
the hubs and drive it in 2 wheel drive once a month with the hubs locked
to lub the front axles and bearings.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
> wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
> disengaged.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
> >
> > I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> > in the winter.
> >
> > And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> > a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I went back and read the manual and only in my CJ7 am I supposed to lock
the hubs and drive it in 2 wheel drive once a month with the hubs locked
to lub the front axles and bearings.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
> wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
> disengaged.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
> >
> > I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> > in the winter.
> >
> > And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> > a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-02-2003, 03:27 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Pete wrote:
>
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph...
Go back to that stretch of road where you did this and look for missing
or shattered parts. The parts you find could help with the shifting
issue once replaced. ;->
--
Harold J. Hoover
1984 CJ-7
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Sedona, AZ USA
>
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph...
Go back to that stretch of road where you did this and look for missing
or shattered parts. The parts you find could help with the shifting
issue once replaced. ;->
--
Harold J. Hoover
1984 CJ-7
guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
Sedona, AZ USA
10-02-2003, 03:27 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Pete wrote:
>
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph...
Go back to that stretch of road where you did this and look for missing
or shattered parts. The parts you find could help with the shifting
issue once replaced. ;->
--
Harold J. Hoover
1984 CJ-7
guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
Sedona, AZ USA
>
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph...
Go back to that stretch of road where you did this and look for missing
or shattered parts. The parts you find could help with the shifting
issue once replaced. ;->
--
Harold J. Hoover
1984 CJ-7
guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
Sedona, AZ USA
10-02-2003, 05:00 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
"Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
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> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
>
Actually, Brett, you can switch into and out of 4WD at pretty much any
speed. the problem for the original poster is that he did it on the street,
and this binds the tcase because the front and rear drivetrains operate at
different speeds. The question is, if you are able to go 50, why do you even
think that you might need 4WD? The idea is that if you can go that fast, you
don't need 4WD to do it.
10-02-2003, 05:00 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
"Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
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> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
>
Actually, Brett, you can switch into and out of 4WD at pretty much any
speed. the problem for the original poster is that he did it on the street,
and this binds the tcase because the front and rear drivetrains operate at
different speeds. The question is, if you are able to go 50, why do you even
think that you might need 4WD? The idea is that if you can go that fast, you
don't need 4WD to do it.
10-02-2003, 05:07 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
I would agree with you if only talking about 4WD LOW. 4WD High is another
matter. My Subaru is WD and I have NEVER fishtailed, slid, slipped, etc on
wet roads. Every 2WD car I've owned will slip and slide on wet pavement (I
like watching Mustangs in the rain). 4WD increases the odds of a tire
finding a non-slick surface...
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:6a04cef7.0310020909.2e991e9d@posting.google.c om...
> > I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> > switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> > and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> > How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
> >
>
> Actually, Brett, you can switch into and out of 4WD at pretty much any
> speed. the problem for the original poster is that he did it on the
street,
> and this binds the tcase because the front and rear drivetrains operate at
> different speeds. The question is, if you are able to go 50, why do you
even
> think that you might need 4WD? The idea is that if you can go that fast,
you
> don't need 4WD to do it.
>
>
matter. My Subaru is WD and I have NEVER fishtailed, slid, slipped, etc on
wet roads. Every 2WD car I've owned will slip and slide on wet pavement (I
like watching Mustangs in the rain). 4WD increases the odds of a tire
finding a non-slick surface...
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:6a04cef7.0310020909.2e991e9d@posting.google.c om...
> > I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> > switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> > and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> > How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
> >
>
> Actually, Brett, you can switch into and out of 4WD at pretty much any
> speed. the problem for the original poster is that he did it on the
street,
> and this binds the tcase because the front and rear drivetrains operate at
> different speeds. The question is, if you are able to go 50, why do you
even
> think that you might need 4WD? The idea is that if you can go that fast,
you
> don't need 4WD to do it.
>
>
