Out of 4wd Hard
10-05-2003, 02:18 AM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Bill,
I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
Cheers!
Perry
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Perry,
> In addition to the oil lifting on the few rains we get, often the
> engineers have designed an inadequate drainage for an area, leading to
> many first time drivers hydroplaning while trying to make a turn at
> normal speed.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>I think your reasoning is relative to your location.
>>
>>When I lived in San Diego for a year the first rainfall (there was 3
>>rainstorms in that year) I saw the freeways slowdown to a crawl. Folks
>>were driving like folks do in the northeast and canada in the most
>>blinding blizzards (White outs, No visibility).
>>I was silly enough to assume I could drive faster then everyone else,
>>after all, it was only rain. I found myself sliding sideways at 60 MPH
>>in a vega wagon!
>>The freeways evidently don't get the mother nature car wash enough to
>>keep the oil and grime off the roads. They truly are slippery when wet!
>>
>>That said when it snows up here in New England it's very common to see
>>folks doing 50-60 mph. Some are stupid SUV's thinking their invincible
>>with no clue or care of how fast they cannot stop and what the other guy
>>can and cannot do.
>>I will drive those speeds if there's no traffic around with my AWD
>>vehicles but not my Wrangler. With it's short wheelbase (not wheel base)
>>it too easily comes around when one side encounters more resistance
>>(snow or slush) than the other. Some folks counter well but I've seen
>>many brave wranglers in snow banks or worse, guard rails, because of the
>>simple laws of physics.
>>
>>Speed and lack of traction (both driving and braking) deserve respect
>>anywhere. Add to that, lack of visibility, stupid 4x4 soccer moms (and
>>Dads) and it's directly proportional to the danger.
>>
>>I do believe there are many times when 60 MPH in 4 wheel drive is
>>totally feasible and necessary in some areas of the country with all due
>>respect to the factors I mentioned above.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Perry
>>
>>87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
Cheers!
Perry
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Perry,
> In addition to the oil lifting on the few rains we get, often the
> engineers have designed an inadequate drainage for an area, leading to
> many first time drivers hydroplaning while trying to make a turn at
> normal speed.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>I think your reasoning is relative to your location.
>>
>>When I lived in San Diego for a year the first rainfall (there was 3
>>rainstorms in that year) I saw the freeways slowdown to a crawl. Folks
>>were driving like folks do in the northeast and canada in the most
>>blinding blizzards (White outs, No visibility).
>>I was silly enough to assume I could drive faster then everyone else,
>>after all, it was only rain. I found myself sliding sideways at 60 MPH
>>in a vega wagon!
>>The freeways evidently don't get the mother nature car wash enough to
>>keep the oil and grime off the roads. They truly are slippery when wet!
>>
>>That said when it snows up here in New England it's very common to see
>>folks doing 50-60 mph. Some are stupid SUV's thinking their invincible
>>with no clue or care of how fast they cannot stop and what the other guy
>>can and cannot do.
>>I will drive those speeds if there's no traffic around with my AWD
>>vehicles but not my Wrangler. With it's short wheelbase (not wheel base)
>>it too easily comes around when one side encounters more resistance
>>(snow or slush) than the other. Some folks counter well but I've seen
>>many brave wranglers in snow banks or worse, guard rails, because of the
>>simple laws of physics.
>>
>>Speed and lack of traction (both driving and braking) deserve respect
>>anywhere. Add to that, lack of visibility, stupid 4x4 soccer moms (and
>>Dads) and it's directly proportional to the danger.
>>
>>I do believe there are many times when 60 MPH in 4 wheel drive is
>>totally feasible and necessary in some areas of the country with all due
>>respect to the factors I mentioned above.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Perry
>>
>>87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
10-05-2003, 02:22 AM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Vegas were disposable. :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
> water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
> since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
> weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
> surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
> the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
> water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
> since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
> weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
> surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
> the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
10-05-2003, 02:22 AM
#173
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Vegas were disposable. :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
> water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
> since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
> weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
> surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
> the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
> water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
> since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
> weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
> surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
> the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
10-05-2003, 02:22 AM
#174
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Vegas were disposable. :-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
> water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
> since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
> weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
> surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
> the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Perry Gagnon wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that too. There were areas of freeway flooded with a pool of
> water for lack of adequate drainage. That did not bother me so much
> since that Vega I bought locally for $150 to get me to Mexico on
> weekends and the Olympic Games in LA was also really fun swamping in the
> surf off PC highway. I figured splashing through a fresh water pool on
> the freeway was removing some salt! ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
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