Out of 4wd Hard
10-02-2003, 10:08 AM
#11
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
in the winter.
And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
TJim wrote:
>
> She's trying to tell you to read your owners manual! You should never shift
> into 4wd on non-slippery surfaces (like pavement)! You'll break stuff! In
> addition to that, 50 mph is around the upper limit the transfer case could
> handle. It's a bit surprising you didn't grenade something.
>
> --
> Jim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
> "Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi
> at
> > around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> > year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more
> time
> > and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> > with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> > tire/gear combo cause this?
> >
> > Pete
> > 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
> >
> >
I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
in the winter.
And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
TJim wrote:
>
> She's trying to tell you to read your owners manual! You should never shift
> into 4wd on non-slippery surfaces (like pavement)! You'll break stuff! In
> addition to that, 50 mph is around the upper limit the transfer case could
> handle. It's a bit surprising you didn't grenade something.
>
> --
> Jim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
> "Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi
> at
> > around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> > year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more
> time
> > and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> > with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> > tire/gear combo cause this?
> >
> > Pete
> > 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
> >
> >
10-02-2003, 10:32 AM
#12
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
1. It's a really, REALLY bad idea to travel on a paved road in 4Hi or
4Lo in your TJ. This newsgroup is archived on Google, go there and
read some of the old posts about this.
2. Probably just hard to shift because you haven't used it much, lube
the shift linkage and it will probably free up. It has nothing to do
with gearing or tires, though.
3. Did I mention that it's a really bad idea to travel on paved roads
in 4 wheel drive mode?
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
4Lo in your TJ. This newsgroup is archived on Google, go there and
read some of the old posts about this.
2. Probably just hard to shift because you haven't used it much, lube
the shift linkage and it will probably free up. It has nothing to do
with gearing or tires, though.
3. Did I mention that it's a really bad idea to travel on paved roads
in 4 wheel drive mode?
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
10-02-2003, 10:32 AM
#13
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
1. It's a really, REALLY bad idea to travel on a paved road in 4Hi or
4Lo in your TJ. This newsgroup is archived on Google, go there and
read some of the old posts about this.
2. Probably just hard to shift because you haven't used it much, lube
the shift linkage and it will probably free up. It has nothing to do
with gearing or tires, though.
3. Did I mention that it's a really bad idea to travel on paved roads
in 4 wheel drive mode?
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
4Lo in your TJ. This newsgroup is archived on Google, go there and
read some of the old posts about this.
2. Probably just hard to shift because you haven't used it much, lube
the shift linkage and it will probably free up. It has nothing to do
with gearing or tires, though.
3. Did I mention that it's a really bad idea to travel on paved roads
in 4 wheel drive mode?
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
10-02-2003, 01:09 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
10-02-2003, 01:09 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
> Pete
> 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
10-02-2003, 01:27 PM
#16
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
You can shift into and out of 4 high at any legal speed.
I just use it like any other shift. See a patch of snow coming, shift
into 4 high, get to clear road again, back to 2 high.
4 low is a different story, you need to be moving 2-3 mph to get a
smooth shift, no faster.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Brent Bogrees wrote:
>
> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
> "Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> > I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> > around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> > year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> > and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> > with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> > tire/gear combo cause this?
> >
> > Pete
> > 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
I just use it like any other shift. See a patch of snow coming, shift
into 4 high, get to clear road again, back to 2 high.
4 low is a different story, you need to be moving 2-3 mph to get a
smooth shift, no faster.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Brent Bogrees wrote:
>
> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
> "Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> > I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> > around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> > year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> > and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> > with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> > tire/gear combo cause this?
> >
> > Pete
> > 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
10-02-2003, 01:27 PM
#17
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
You can shift into and out of 4 high at any legal speed.
I just use it like any other shift. See a patch of snow coming, shift
into 4 high, get to clear road again, back to 2 high.
4 low is a different story, you need to be moving 2-3 mph to get a
smooth shift, no faster.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Brent Bogrees wrote:
>
> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
> "Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> > I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> > around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> > year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> > and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> > with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> > tire/gear combo cause this?
> >
> > Pete
> > 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
I just use it like any other shift. See a patch of snow coming, shift
into 4 high, get to clear road again, back to 2 high.
4 low is a different story, you need to be moving 2-3 mph to get a
smooth shift, no faster.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Brent Bogrees wrote:
>
> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you are supposed to be
> switching into 4WD at 50 mph. I always stop first, shift into 4WD,
> and then go. When you switched it out of 4WD, were you going 50 mph?
> How does it shift out when you are stopped and then go?
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT Tires
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
> "Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> > I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi at
> > around 50mph since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> > year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more time
> > and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> > with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> > tire/gear combo cause this?
> >
> > Pete
> > 2kTJ, 4.0 auto,
10-02-2003, 01:30 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Hi Mike,
Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
disengaged.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
>
> I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> in the winter.
>
> And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
disengaged.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
>
> I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> in the winter.
>
> And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-02-2003, 01:30 PM
#19
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
Hi Mike,
Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
disengaged.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
>
> I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> in the winter.
>
> And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Are you being sarcastic? My does manual say to shift into four
wheel drive on pavement to lubricate, but with the free wheeling hubs,
disengaged.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I should hope 50 wasn't the top end for a shift.
>
> I shift in and out of 4 high at 60+ mph all the time in both of my Jeeps
> in the winter.
>
> And 'both' of my owners manuals say to shift into 4x4 once per month on
> a straight road to keep everything lubed up and working right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-02-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: Out of 4wd Hard
"Pete" <Pete.Brideau@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:tOSeb.19124$541.1590@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I was on the road the other day and decided to shift my 2000 TJ into 4hi
at
> around 50mph
NEVER DO THAT AGAIN.
Your tcase does not like hard surfaces, and the resulting bang is an
indicator of how much it doesn't like what you did.
since I haven't used it really since last winter (been a busy
> year). Well it went in ok but out was hard. So I tried it acouple more
time
> and same thing. What is she trying to tell me? I put 31x10.5 on last dec.
> with 3.07 gears. but haven't really been in 4wd much since. Could the
> tire/gear combo cause this?
>
No. It is the extremely good traction that is binding the tcase that caused
this.
