Fidelio

Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country in the
EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation we are
planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.

In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe don't
send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but for us
the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really follow what
they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
strange each other.

Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses you
have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where the
weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more expensive
that in the States.

Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi or
Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason for
that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States is
much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
Europe have.

Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly from
my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a year
"Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908 dollars -
20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst country in
EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same salary
about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or Finland
they pay as much as 65%.

Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket that
the average american? Not really. All the european contries has National
Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And all
european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you raise 65
years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the english
word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american salary and
you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other facilities
that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is not
too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.

Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate paying
taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
think it over.

Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the solution.
He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason to
take it into jail. ;-)

Fidelio






"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen valor",
> but
> they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
> There
> are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
> English
> tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
> Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they may be
> stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
> spoken.
> The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
> watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would form
> the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is the
> ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots of
> Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>
> I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can buy a
> lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in Spain.
> The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
> dollars
> too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro may be
> over-valued.
>
> The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot more
> dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for his
> politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my english is
>> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps me
>> to
>> decide where in the States to go.
>>
>> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
> travel
>> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with english
> but
>> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every single
> time
>> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
> around
>> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for you
>> to
>> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Fidelio
>> from Spain (UE)
>>
>>
>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
> Spanish
>> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the billboards
> are
>> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where libraries no
>> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas. Imagine
>> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries anymore.
>> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too bad I
>> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >
>> > --
>> > there is no .sig
>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in jail/prison.
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >>
>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing crimes
>> >>> and
>> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>> .
>> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a tie-pin
> given
>> >>> > as
>> >> a
>> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
> Wakefield
>> >> as
>> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >>> > inspector
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for concern".
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Fidelio

Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country in the
EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation we are
planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.

In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe don't
send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA but for us
the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not really follow what
they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and Brasilian both are
suppouse to be the same language but the find the way to speak it very
strange each other.

Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses you
have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where the
weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more expensive
that in the States.

Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi or
Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason for
that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States is
much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
Europe have.

Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly from
my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a year
"Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908 dollars -
20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst country in
EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the same salary
about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden, Norway or Finland
they pay as much as 65%.

Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket that
the average american? Not really. All the european contries has National
Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And all
european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you raise 65
years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the english
word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american salary and
you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many other facilities
that the average european pays with the taxes may be the diference is not
too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not with a German.

Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate paying
taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
think it over.

Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the solution.
He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the reason to
take it into jail. ;-)

Fidelio






"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen valor",
> but
> they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
> There
> are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
> English
> tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
> Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they may be
> stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
> spoken.
> The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
> watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would form
> the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is the
> ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots of
> Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>
> I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can buy a
> lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in Spain.
> The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
> dollars
> too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro may be
> over-valued.
>
> The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot more
> dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for his
> politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
> news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my english is
>> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps me
>> to
>> decide where in the States to go.
>>
>> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
> travel
>> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with english
> but
>> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every single
> time
>> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
> around
>> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for you
>> to
>> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Fidelio
>> from Spain (UE)
>>
>>
>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
> Spanish
>> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the billboards
> are
>> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where libraries no
>> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas. Imagine
>> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries anymore.
>> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too bad I
>> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>> >
>> > --
>> > there is no .sig
>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in jail/prison.
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >>
>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing crimes
>> >>> and
>> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> >>> .
>> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a tie-pin
> given
>> >>> > as
>> >> a
>> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
> Wakefield
>> >> as
>> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>> >>> > inspector
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for concern".
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Fidelio

Rocco Sigfredi did more than 20 films, so you cannot consider "amount of
films" as a qualification for being good actor.

Anyway there are two important features on people from Spain that helps to
understand us. First is that we consider we have good weather. Second is our
like for speaking badly about the Spanish persons or things... like
complaining about Spanish actors, Presidents, or live style.

Related to the price... hmmm Can I get cash?

Fidelio

"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1128545096.972337.296080@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> It looks like "Fidelio" is a contender for this weeks's Usenet Bull$hit
> award...
>
> <<Antonio Banderas...I'm pretty sure that he went to the USA just to
> marry with Melany>>
>
> Seeing as how he came here in 1992 and starred in several major US
> movies ("The Mambo Kings", "Interview with the Vampire", etc.) *before*
> even meeting her in 1996, that seems unlikely.
>
> <<I doubt he could do something for the States. At least he didn't make
> anything for Spain and he was living here for more than 30 years.>>
>
> He was considered to be a *major* star in Spain before coming to the US
> in 1992, having starred in more than 20 films there.
>
> John Cowart
>

Fidelio

Rocco Sigfredi did more than 20 films, so you cannot consider "amount of
films" as a qualification for being good actor.

Anyway there are two important features on people from Spain that helps to
understand us. First is that we consider we have good weather. Second is our
like for speaking badly about the Spanish persons or things... like
complaining about Spanish actors, Presidents, or live style.

Related to the price... hmmm Can I get cash?

Fidelio

"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1128545096.972337.296080@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> It looks like "Fidelio" is a contender for this weeks's Usenet Bull$hit
> award...
>
> <<Antonio Banderas...I'm pretty sure that he went to the USA just to
> marry with Melany>>
>
> Seeing as how he came here in 1992 and starred in several major US
> movies ("The Mambo Kings", "Interview with the Vampire", etc.) *before*
> even meeting her in 1996, that seems unlikely.
>
> <<I doubt he could do something for the States. At least he didn't make
> anything for Spain and he was living here for more than 30 years.>>
>
> He was considered to be a *major* star in Spain before coming to the US
> in 1992, having starred in more than 20 films there.
>
> John Cowart
>

Fidelio

Rocco Sigfredi did more than 20 films, so you cannot consider "amount of
films" as a qualification for being good actor.

Anyway there are two important features on people from Spain that helps to
understand us. First is that we consider we have good weather. Second is our
like for speaking badly about the Spanish persons or things... like
complaining about Spanish actors, Presidents, or live style.

Related to the price... hmmm Can I get cash?

Fidelio

"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1128545096.972337.296080@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> It looks like "Fidelio" is a contender for this weeks's Usenet Bull$hit
> award...
>
> <<Antonio Banderas...I'm pretty sure that he went to the USA just to
> marry with Melany>>
>
> Seeing as how he came here in 1992 and starred in several major US
> movies ("The Mambo Kings", "Interview with the Vampire", etc.) *before*
> even meeting her in 1996, that seems unlikely.
>
> <<I doubt he could do something for the States. At least he didn't make
> anything for Spain and he was living here for more than 30 years.>>
>
> He was considered to be a *major* star in Spain before coming to the US
> in 1992, having starred in more than 20 films there.
>
> John Cowart
>

Fidelio

I forgot another diference between Europe and America.

Can be seen in the URL: http://www.funnyjunk.com/p/euro_vs_america-jpg.html

Just kidding.

Fidelio

P.S.: I think I'm going to be banned by US people.

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country in
> the EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
> we are planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>
> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
> don't send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
> but for us the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not
> really follow what they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and
> Brasilian both are suppouse to be the same language but the find the way
> to speak it very strange each other.
>
> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses
> you have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
> the weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> expensive that in the States.
>
> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi or
> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason
> for that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States is
> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
> Europe have.
>
> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly from
> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
> year "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> dollars - 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> country in EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the
> same salary about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden,
> Norway or Finland they pay as much as 65%.
>
> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket that
> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has National
> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And all
> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you raise
> 65 years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> english word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> salary and you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many
> other facilities that the average european pays with the taxes may be the
> diference is not too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not
> with a German.
>
> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate paying
> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
> think it over.
>
> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> solution. He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
> reason to take it into jail. ;-)
>
> Fidelio
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen valor",
>> but
>> they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
>> There
>> are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
>> English
>> tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
>> Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they may
>> be
>> stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
>> spoken.
>> The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
>> watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would
>> form
>> the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is the
>> ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots of
>> Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>>
>> I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can buy a
>> lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
>> Spain.
>> The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
>> dollars
>> too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro may be
>> over-valued.
>>
>> The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot
>> more
>> dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for his
>> politics.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my english is
>>> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps me
>>> to
>>> decide where in the States to go.
>>>
>>> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
>> travel
>>> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with english
>> but
>>> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every single
>> time
>>> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
>> around
>>> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for you
>>> to
>>> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Fidelio
>>> from Spain (UE)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
>> Spanish
>>> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the billboards
>> are
>>> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where libraries no
>>> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
>>> > Imagine
>>> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries anymore.
>>> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too bad
>>> > I
>>> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > there is no .sig
>>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in jail/prison.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>> >>
>>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing crimes
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a tie-pin
>> given
>>> >>> > as
>>> >> a
>>> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
>> Wakefield
>>> >> as
>>> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>>> >>> > inspector
>>> >>> > for
>>> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for concern".
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Fidelio

I forgot another diference between Europe and America.

Can be seen in the URL: http://www.funnyjunk.com/p/euro_vs_america-jpg.html

Just kidding.

Fidelio

P.S.: I think I'm going to be banned by US people.

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country in
> the EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
> we are planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>
> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
> don't send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
> but for us the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not
> really follow what they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and
> Brasilian both are suppouse to be the same language but the find the way
> to speak it very strange each other.
>
> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses
> you have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
> the weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> expensive that in the States.
>
> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi or
> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason
> for that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States is
> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
> Europe have.
>
> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly from
> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
> year "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> dollars - 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> country in EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the
> same salary about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden,
> Norway or Finland they pay as much as 65%.
>
> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket that
> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has National
> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And all
> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you raise
> 65 years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> english word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> salary and you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many
> other facilities that the average european pays with the taxes may be the
> diference is not too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not
> with a German.
>
> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate paying
> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
> think it over.
>
> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> solution. He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
> reason to take it into jail. ;-)
>
> Fidelio
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen valor",
>> but
>> they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
>> There
>> are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
>> English
>> tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
>> Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they may
>> be
>> stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
>> spoken.
>> The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
>> watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would
>> form
>> the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is the
>> ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots of
>> Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>>
>> I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can buy a
>> lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
>> Spain.
>> The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
>> dollars
>> too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro may be
>> over-valued.
>>
>> The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot
>> more
>> dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for his
>> politics.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my english is
>>> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps me
>>> to
>>> decide where in the States to go.
>>>
>>> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
>> travel
>>> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with english
>> but
>>> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every single
>> time
>>> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
>> around
>>> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for you
>>> to
>>> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Fidelio
>>> from Spain (UE)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
>> Spanish
>>> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the billboards
>> are
>>> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where libraries no
>>> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
>>> > Imagine
>>> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries anymore.
>>> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too bad
>>> > I
>>> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > there is no .sig
>>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in jail/prison.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>> >>
>>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing crimes
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a tie-pin
>> given
>>> >>> > as
>>> >> a
>>> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
>> Wakefield
>>> >> as
>>> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>>> >>> > inspector
>>> >>> > for
>>> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for concern".
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Fidelio

I forgot another diference between Europe and America.

Can be seen in the URL: http://www.funnyjunk.com/p/euro_vs_america-jpg.html

Just kidding.

Fidelio

P.S.: I think I'm going to be banned by US people.

"Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:di2m6r$7jm$1@caladan.landsraad.net...
> Why Spaniards are not traveling? Let me explain that to you... we allow
> Poland to enter into the Union just to stop being the poorest country in
> the EU. That easy. Now that Poland is starting to improve their situation
> we are planning to allow Turkey to go into the Union.
>
> In Spain we don't watch South American TVs. Basically since ASTRA or
> HISPASAT which are the two satellite systems found in southern Europe
> don't send the signal of those channels. I think Galavision is on ASTRA
> but for us the South Americans accent sound so funny that we can not
> really follow what they are saying. Is something like Portuguese and
> Brasilian both are suppouse to be the same language but the find the way
> to speak it very strange each other.
>
> Now related the Euro and Dollar. When I was in the States I found that
> housing is more cheap there than in Europe but those wooden made houses
> you have in the cities are not found in Europe (not even in Spain where
> the weather is goog enough). So building a home in Europe is much more
> expensive that in the States.
>
> Another important diference are cars. An european car like BMW or Audi or
> Mercedes cost double in Germany or Spain than in the States. The reason
> for that could be that european makers must fight with the prices of local
> makers like Ford or GM. I think again that making a car in the States is
> much cheaper that in Europe due to the social facilities the workers in
> Europe have.
>
> Just imagine, I pay on taxes by the end of the year or taken directly from
> my salary about 35%, so if the company pays to me around 48000 Euros a
> year "Hacienda" (our IRS) gets for the state about 16800 Euros (57908
> dollars - 20267 dollars, what www.xe.com said). And Spain is not the worst
> country in EU related to taxes. In France and Germany I could pay for the
> same salary about a 45% on taxes. And in northern Europe like Sweden,
> Norway or Finland they pay as much as 65%.
>
> Is this meant that the average european has less money in his pocket that
> the average american? Not really. All the european contries has National
> Health System which has great health assistance. I have no other health
> system than the owned by the state. I could but I don't need it. And all
> european countries has a Social Security System which pays to you about
> 65%-90% of your salary when you are ill for a long time or when you raise
> 65 years old and you stop working for a salary (I don't remember the
> english word... retirement?... don't know). So... if you take an american
> salary and you add the health insurance and a retirement plan and many
> other facilities that the average european pays with the taxes may be the
> diference is not too much. May be with a person from Spain yes but not
> with a German.
>
> Which system is the best? I don't make any choice on that. I hate paying
> taxes but when I saw how much an american pay for being in a hospital I
> think it over.
>
> Related to Mr. Bean - Zapatero. I must insist... Guantanamo is the
> solution. He is good friend of Chavez and Castro so... you have there the
> reason to take it into jail. ;-)
>
> Fidelio
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:43440c73$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
>> Yeah, my first day in Spain they told me, "Los dólares no tienen valor",
>> but
>> they took my credit card OK. Don't be put off by "Doug" or his ilk.
>> There
>> are people like him everywhere. We get lots of French, German, and
>> English
>> tourists where I live, <www.silvertoncolorado.com>, but not that many
>> Spaniards. We wonder where they are. Some people think, that they may
>> be
>> stand-offish and unwilling to go places, where their language is not
>> spoken.
>> The Mexicans and Central Americans are not so picky. In fact, if you
>> watched the advertisements on Telemundo, Univision, or hTV, you would
>> form
>> the opinion, that all they care about, is learning English. It is the
>> ticket to "la vida mejor", as one ad says. On the other hand, lots of
>> Anglos in my country are learning Spanish too.
>>
>> I am not too worried about the Euro situation. I'll bet that I can buy a
>> lot more with a dollar in the U.S., than you can buy with a Euro in
>> Spain.
>> The latinos that come into my country, legally or not, seem to like
>> dollars
>> too. I am not an expert on economics, but I suspect that the Euro may be
>> over-valued.
>>
>> The Mr. Bean comment cracks me up. Your previous president had a lot
>> more
>> dress sense and better taylors, although I didn't care too much for his
>> politics.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Fidelio" <Fidelio@correofalso.net> wrote in message
>> news:di00o4$628$4@caladan.landsraad.net...
>>> Hmmm Great news. I was thinking on visiting the States but my english is
>>> soooo bad that I took the desicion of not going. But your note helps me
>>> to
>>> decide where in the States to go.
>>>
>>> Funny thing is that nowadays if you know english and spanish you can
>> travel
>>> all around the world. Some years ago you could travel only with english
>> but
>>> the times are changing. Is like the dollar. Few years ago every single
>> time
>>> I traveled outside Europe I carried US Dollars that are accepted all
>> around
>>> the world. Now I travel only with UE Euros... That is something for you
>>> to
>>> worry about... not the ------ of "hispanos" population.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Fidelio
>>> from Spain (UE)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:_Nw0f.1434$xD7.1251@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> > At least whole sections of Britain aren't speaking/reading/writing
>> Spanish
>>> > now. I've seen cities in Southern California where all the billboards
>> are
>>> > in Spanish. I've seen cities in Southern California where libraries no
>>> > longer have the name libraries, they're now called bibliotecas.
>>> > Imagine
>>> > public libraries that don't have signs calling them libraries anymore.
>>> > Insane. Do hispanics still get affirmative action in the USA? Too bad
>>> > I
>>> > don't get any affirmative action in any latino countries...
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > there is no .sig
>>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>> > news:mZq0f.121355$G8.107975@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>> >> no, just legal aliens committing crimes and ending up in jail/prison.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>> >>
>>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:aeb8$43420337$d8449845$23577@FUSE.NET...
>>> >>> Have you got a problem there with illegal aliens committing crimes
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> ending up in jail/prison?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> >>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>> >>> news:JTl0f.121295$G8.68978@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>> >>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4305798.stm
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Apparently, prison officers having an English flag on a tie-pin
>> given
>>> >>> > as
>>> >> a
>>> >>> > result of a donation to a cancer charity, is to be banned in
>> Wakefield
>>> >> as
>>> >>> > "It could be misinterpreted as a racist symbol". The Chief
>>> >>> > inspector
>>> >>> > for
>>> >>> > prisons, Anne Owens, said they were also "a cause for concern".
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Un-f*king*-believable.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Billy Ray

I WAS going to say that I had never seen any of his films and perhaps
Fidelio considers him a minor player. I was wrong, when I looked on
www.imdb.com I saw that he was the voice of the cat in Shrek so I will have
to admit I, at least, heard him in a movie playing the voice of a cat in a
children's movie. IS that is the surest sign of a major movie star ?

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4344ccda$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> "Women on the verge of a nervous breakdown" is a must-see, even if you
> have
> to read the subtitles.
>
> Earle
>
> "bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1128545096.972337.296080@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> It looks like "Fidelio" is a contender for this weeks's Usenet Bull$hit
>> award...
>>
>> <<Antonio Banderas...I'm pretty sure that he went to the USA just to
>> marry with Melany>>
>>
>> Seeing as how he came here in 1992 and starred in several major US
>> movies ("The Mambo Kings", "Interview with the Vampire", etc.) *before*
>> even meeting her in 1996, that seems unlikely.
>>
>> <<I doubt he could do something for the States. At least he didn't make
>> anything for Spain and he was living here for more than 30 years.>>
>>
>> He was considered to be a *major* star in Spain before coming to the US
>> in 1992, having starred in more than 20 films there.
>>
>> John Cowart
>>
>>
>
>

Billy Ray

I WAS going to say that I had never seen any of his films and perhaps
Fidelio considers him a minor player. I was wrong, when I looked on
www.imdb.com I saw that he was the voice of the cat in Shrek so I will have
to admit I, at least, heard him in a movie playing the voice of a cat in a
children's movie. IS that is the surest sign of a major movie star ?

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4344ccda$1_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> "Women on the verge of a nervous breakdown" is a must-see, even if you
> have
> to read the subtitles.
>
> Earle
>
> "bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1128545096.972337.296080@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> It looks like "Fidelio" is a contender for this weeks's Usenet Bull$hit
>> award...
>>
>> <<Antonio Banderas...I'm pretty sure that he went to the USA just to
>> marry with Melany>>
>>
>> Seeing as how he came here in 1992 and starred in several major US
>> movies ("The Mambo Kings", "Interview with the Vampire", etc.) *before*
>> even meeting her in 1996, that seems unlikely.
>>
>> <<I doubt he could do something for the States. At least he didn't make
>> anything for Spain and he was living here for more than 30 years.>>
>>
>> He was considered to be a *major* star in Spain before coming to the US
>> in 1992, having starred in more than 20 films there.
>>
>> John Cowart
>>
>>
>
>