Matt Macchiarolo

Brown won't be sacked, you're talking about an administration that won't
fire anyone no matter how inept, as long as they remain loyal and follow the
official line. After the revelations that he padded his resume on top of his
inaction, he was just relieved of his responsibility to oversee the FEMA
operations as a PR recovery move, but remains head of FEMA as of now.

The failures of government in this disaster aren't recent, they are a
culmination of the last 30 years or so, inasmuch as recognizing the need for
building a levee to withstand a Cat 5 storm, competent evacuation planning,
and the lack of motivation for federal response.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:jrCUe.106109$G8.25523@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that
> many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to
> know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>> > not
>> > rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
> as
>> > a
>> > result of building below the water table ?
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Brown won't be sacked, you're talking about an administration that won't
fire anyone no matter how inept, as long as they remain loyal and follow the
official line. After the revelations that he padded his resume on top of his
inaction, he was just relieved of his responsibility to oversee the FEMA
operations as a PR recovery move, but remains head of FEMA as of now.

The failures of government in this disaster aren't recent, they are a
culmination of the last 30 years or so, inasmuch as recognizing the need for
building a levee to withstand a Cat 5 storm, competent evacuation planning,
and the lack of motivation for federal response.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:jrCUe.106109$G8.25523@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that
> many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to
> know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>> > not
>> > rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
> as
>> > a
>> > result of building below the water table ?
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Brown won't be sacked, you're talking about an administration that won't
fire anyone no matter how inept, as long as they remain loyal and follow the
official line. After the revelations that he padded his resume on top of his
inaction, he was just relieved of his responsibility to oversee the FEMA
operations as a PR recovery move, but remains head of FEMA as of now.

The failures of government in this disaster aren't recent, they are a
culmination of the last 30 years or so, inasmuch as recognizing the need for
building a levee to withstand a Cat 5 storm, competent evacuation planning,
and the lack of motivation for federal response.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:jrCUe.106109$G8.25523@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that
> many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to
> know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>> > not
>> > rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
> as
>> > a
>> > result of building below the water table ?
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Lon

Unfortunately folks too far down the totem pole will become the
scapegoats to protect the real culprits.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>>I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>>>not
>>>rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
>
> as
>
>>>a
>>>result of building below the water table ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Lon

Unfortunately folks too far down the totem pole will become the
scapegoats to protect the real culprits.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>>I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>>>not
>>>rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
>
> as
>
>>>a
>>>result of building below the water table ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Lon

Unfortunately folks too far down the totem pole will become the
scapegoats to protect the real culprits.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>>I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>>>not
>>>rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
>
> as
>
>>>a
>>>result of building below the water table ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Lon

Unfortunately folks too far down the totem pole will become the
scapegoats to protect the real culprits.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> Its all over our news, but focusing on the immediate sensationalism as is
> the norm for news channels. It seems the head of FEMA has been sacked, but
> with the pics I'm seeing, it looks like a really hard job to evac that many
> people and keep back that amount of water. But, I'm 6K miles away and have
> never been there, hence the questions ! You guys know me well enough to know
> I'm not trolling.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>>I will now duck and run for cover as things might get ugly around here!
>
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:KtAUe.106041$G8.65843@text.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>So what's the crack on New Orleans ? Is it an administration screwup in
>>>not
>>>rescuing the people more efficiently or just an inevitable catastrophe
>
> as
>
>>>a
>>>result of building below the water table ?
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Cherokee-Ltd

"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11i5nsk5nf72l5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Here's a pretty good take.
>
> Blame Amid the Tragedy
> Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin failed their constituents.
>
> BY BOB WILLIAMS
> Wednesday, September 7, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT
>
> As the devastation of Hurricane Katrina continues to shock and sadden the
> nation, the question on many lips is, Who is to blame for the inadequate
> response?
>


Note the date of this article (09/07/05), there have been a lot of startling
revelations since then.

There is plenty of blame to go around and despite what Scott McClellan says,
now is the time to play the "blaming game".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...e+game&spell=1

This guy seems to be a big fan of the blame game (victim)..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7712202734

Another opinion from Jane Bullock, former Chief of Staff for FEMA (democrat)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in817893.shtml

And another from Colin Powell, former Secretary of State (republican)
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L09651428.htm

Governor declares State of Emergency (08/26/05)
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Relea...ail.asp?id=973

Bush declares emergency, a measure that "allows" federal aid to be deployed
(08/28/05)
http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-28/31701.html

Katrina makes landfall (08/29/05)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in798725.shtml

Federal aid saunters in 4 days later (09/02/05)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/

Far be it from me to point fingers, afterall, I have as much experience in
handling disaster management as Michael Brown. I will say however this
disaster appears to be;

1. lack of funding to prevent flooding (federal)
2. mis-management of insufficient funding (state)
3. wait and see management style (fed,state,city)
4. bureaucracy (everywhere)
5. FEMA bungling

It seems to me the heroes in this affair have been Supt. Compass, Gen. Honre
and their charges. Local, National and International volunteers. Countries
around the world offering support including of all places Sri Lanka - still
struggling from the tsunami. I have the mental image of someone in Sri Lanka
watching the news and thinking 'why would they have a city below
sea-level?'.

It also pains me to admit this but the media has done a great job with
coverage and foremost, reuniting evacuees. They still have their painfully
obvious political agendas however.

-Brian

Cherokee-Ltd

"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11i5nsk5nf72l5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Here's a pretty good take.
>
> Blame Amid the Tragedy
> Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin failed their constituents.
>
> BY BOB WILLIAMS
> Wednesday, September 7, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT
>
> As the devastation of Hurricane Katrina continues to shock and sadden the
> nation, the question on many lips is, Who is to blame for the inadequate
> response?
>


Note the date of this article (09/07/05), there have been a lot of startling
revelations since then.

There is plenty of blame to go around and despite what Scott McClellan says,
now is the time to play the "blaming game".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...e+game&spell=1

This guy seems to be a big fan of the blame game (victim)..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7712202734

Another opinion from Jane Bullock, former Chief of Staff for FEMA (democrat)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in817893.shtml

And another from Colin Powell, former Secretary of State (republican)
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L09651428.htm

Governor declares State of Emergency (08/26/05)
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Relea...ail.asp?id=973

Bush declares emergency, a measure that "allows" federal aid to be deployed
(08/28/05)
http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-28/31701.html

Katrina makes landfall (08/29/05)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in798725.shtml

Federal aid saunters in 4 days later (09/02/05)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/

Far be it from me to point fingers, afterall, I have as much experience in
handling disaster management as Michael Brown. I will say however this
disaster appears to be;

1. lack of funding to prevent flooding (federal)
2. mis-management of insufficient funding (state)
3. wait and see management style (fed,state,city)
4. bureaucracy (everywhere)
5. FEMA bungling

It seems to me the heroes in this affair have been Supt. Compass, Gen. Honre
and their charges. Local, National and International volunteers. Countries
around the world offering support including of all places Sri Lanka - still
struggling from the tsunami. I have the mental image of someone in Sri Lanka
watching the news and thinking 'why would they have a city below
sea-level?'.

It also pains me to admit this but the media has done a great job with
coverage and foremost, reuniting evacuees. They still have their painfully
obvious political agendas however.

-Brian

Cherokee-Ltd

"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11i5nsk5nf72l5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Here's a pretty good take.
>
> Blame Amid the Tragedy
> Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin failed their constituents.
>
> BY BOB WILLIAMS
> Wednesday, September 7, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT
>
> As the devastation of Hurricane Katrina continues to shock and sadden the
> nation, the question on many lips is, Who is to blame for the inadequate
> response?
>


Note the date of this article (09/07/05), there have been a lot of startling
revelations since then.

There is plenty of blame to go around and despite what Scott McClellan says,
now is the time to play the "blaming game".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...e+game&spell=1

This guy seems to be a big fan of the blame game (victim)..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7712202734

Another opinion from Jane Bullock, former Chief of Staff for FEMA (democrat)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in817893.shtml

And another from Colin Powell, former Secretary of State (republican)
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L09651428.htm

Governor declares State of Emergency (08/26/05)
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Relea...ail.asp?id=973

Bush declares emergency, a measure that "allows" federal aid to be deployed
(08/28/05)
http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-28/31701.html

Katrina makes landfall (08/29/05)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in798725.shtml

Federal aid saunters in 4 days later (09/02/05)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/

Far be it from me to point fingers, afterall, I have as much experience in
handling disaster management as Michael Brown. I will say however this
disaster appears to be;

1. lack of funding to prevent flooding (federal)
2. mis-management of insufficient funding (state)
3. wait and see management style (fed,state,city)
4. bureaucracy (everywhere)
5. FEMA bungling

It seems to me the heroes in this affair have been Supt. Compass, Gen. Honre
and their charges. Local, National and International volunteers. Countries
around the world offering support including of all places Sri Lanka - still
struggling from the tsunami. I have the mental image of someone in Sri Lanka
watching the news and thinking 'why would they have a city below
sea-level?'.

It also pains me to admit this but the media has done a great job with
coverage and foremost, reuniting evacuees. They still have their painfully
obvious political agendas however.

-Brian