OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
07-28-2004, 03:57 PM
#31
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
Matt
>
> Another soon to be disappointed consumer! Plus, just the kind of gullible
> consumer the dealers love, willing to spend 4k more than the thjing is worth
> in order to save money on fuel! If your calculations are true, she'll have
> to replace the battery pack at some point around 8 years from now, that will
> be another 3k. Some economy, huh?
into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
Matt
>
> Another soon to be disappointed consumer! Plus, just the kind of gullible
> consumer the dealers love, willing to spend 4k more than the thjing is worth
> in order to save money on fuel! If your calculations are true, she'll have
> to replace the battery pack at some point around 8 years from now, that will
> be another 3k. Some economy, huh?
07-28-2004, 03:57 PM
#32
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
Matt
>
> Another soon to be disappointed consumer! Plus, just the kind of gullible
> consumer the dealers love, willing to spend 4k more than the thjing is worth
> in order to save money on fuel! If your calculations are true, she'll have
> to replace the battery pack at some point around 8 years from now, that will
> be another 3k. Some economy, huh?
into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
Matt
>
> Another soon to be disappointed consumer! Plus, just the kind of gullible
> consumer the dealers love, willing to spend 4k more than the thjing is worth
> in order to save money on fuel! If your calculations are true, she'll have
> to replace the battery pack at some point around 8 years from now, that will
> be another 3k. Some economy, huh?
07-28-2004, 03:57 PM
#33
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
Matt
>
> Another soon to be disappointed consumer! Plus, just the kind of gullible
> consumer the dealers love, willing to spend 4k more than the thjing is worth
> in order to save money on fuel! If your calculations are true, she'll have
> to replace the battery pack at some point around 8 years from now, that will
> be another 3k. Some economy, huh?
into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
Matt
>
> Another soon to be disappointed consumer! Plus, just the kind of gullible
> consumer the dealers love, willing to spend 4k more than the thjing is worth
> in order to save money on fuel! If your calculations are true, she'll have
> to replace the battery pack at some point around 8 years from now, that will
> be another 3k. Some economy, huh?
07-28-2004, 05:09 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
A better analogy would be the four cylinder and it's associated
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
07-28-2004, 05:09 PM
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
A better analogy would be the four cylinder and it's associated
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
07-28-2004, 05:09 PM
#36
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
A better analogy would be the four cylinder and it's associated
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
07-28-2004, 05:09 PM
#37
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
A better analogy would be the four cylinder and it's associated
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
weaker drive train, as the automatic has been a part of the base price
since the fifties, like we can't even order a limited with a stick.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt wrote:
>
> It's a lot like the old Auto vs. Manual argument new car buyers get
> into- "Oh, no, it's $3,000 more for the auto!", neglecting the money
> you'll be tossing on clutches with a standard.
>
> Matt
07-28-2004, 09:33 PM
#38
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
The commercially available hybrids suck because they have no
redundancy. You have to have both systems running not just either or.
Years ago a guy converted a Subaru-he gutted the back out and put a VW
transaxle hooked to a electric motor and batteries in the rear. That
way he could drive pure electric on short trips. He had a foot
controller that interrupted the first inch of brake travel and made
the electric motor generate and charge the batts for braking,a
no-microprocessor elegant solution-need wheel brakes push a little
harder. If the batteries were overcharging he had a 10 kW Globar dummy
load that switched in circuit when braking-the Globar was built in the
rear bumper. Glowed real pretty at night (although it charred the
lower decklid paint eventually). He could charge in the garage, or
underway as he had a huge Leece Neville alternator on the engine and
an inverter/charger he built himself.
It was quite a deal. I think there was an article in Mechanix
Illustrated or something. Oh yeah, it was four wheel drive-think about
it! The road was the only link between the systems except for one wire
and the common chassis ground.
redundancy. You have to have both systems running not just either or.
Years ago a guy converted a Subaru-he gutted the back out and put a VW
transaxle hooked to a electric motor and batteries in the rear. That
way he could drive pure electric on short trips. He had a foot
controller that interrupted the first inch of brake travel and made
the electric motor generate and charge the batts for braking,a
no-microprocessor elegant solution-need wheel brakes push a little
harder. If the batteries were overcharging he had a 10 kW Globar dummy
load that switched in circuit when braking-the Globar was built in the
rear bumper. Glowed real pretty at night (although it charred the
lower decklid paint eventually). He could charge in the garage, or
underway as he had a huge Leece Neville alternator on the engine and
an inverter/charger he built himself.
It was quite a deal. I think there was an article in Mechanix
Illustrated or something. Oh yeah, it was four wheel drive-think about
it! The road was the only link between the systems except for one wire
and the common chassis ground.
07-28-2004, 09:33 PM
#39
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Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
The commercially available hybrids suck because they have no
redundancy. You have to have both systems running not just either or.
Years ago a guy converted a Subaru-he gutted the back out and put a VW
transaxle hooked to a electric motor and batteries in the rear. That
way he could drive pure electric on short trips. He had a foot
controller that interrupted the first inch of brake travel and made
the electric motor generate and charge the batts for braking,a
no-microprocessor elegant solution-need wheel brakes push a little
harder. If the batteries were overcharging he had a 10 kW Globar dummy
load that switched in circuit when braking-the Globar was built in the
rear bumper. Glowed real pretty at night (although it charred the
lower decklid paint eventually). He could charge in the garage, or
underway as he had a huge Leece Neville alternator on the engine and
an inverter/charger he built himself.
It was quite a deal. I think there was an article in Mechanix
Illustrated or something. Oh yeah, it was four wheel drive-think about
it! The road was the only link between the systems except for one wire
and the common chassis ground.
redundancy. You have to have both systems running not just either or.
Years ago a guy converted a Subaru-he gutted the back out and put a VW
transaxle hooked to a electric motor and batteries in the rear. That
way he could drive pure electric on short trips. He had a foot
controller that interrupted the first inch of brake travel and made
the electric motor generate and charge the batts for braking,a
no-microprocessor elegant solution-need wheel brakes push a little
harder. If the batteries were overcharging he had a 10 kW Globar dummy
load that switched in circuit when braking-the Globar was built in the
rear bumper. Glowed real pretty at night (although it charred the
lower decklid paint eventually). He could charge in the garage, or
underway as he had a huge Leece Neville alternator on the engine and
an inverter/charger he built himself.
It was quite a deal. I think there was an article in Mechanix
Illustrated or something. Oh yeah, it was four wheel drive-think about
it! The road was the only link between the systems except for one wire
and the common chassis ground.
07-28-2004, 09:33 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT - my sister bought a Prius hybrid ;(
The commercially available hybrids suck because they have no
redundancy. You have to have both systems running not just either or.
Years ago a guy converted a Subaru-he gutted the back out and put a VW
transaxle hooked to a electric motor and batteries in the rear. That
way he could drive pure electric on short trips. He had a foot
controller that interrupted the first inch of brake travel and made
the electric motor generate and charge the batts for braking,a
no-microprocessor elegant solution-need wheel brakes push a little
harder. If the batteries were overcharging he had a 10 kW Globar dummy
load that switched in circuit when braking-the Globar was built in the
rear bumper. Glowed real pretty at night (although it charred the
lower decklid paint eventually). He could charge in the garage, or
underway as he had a huge Leece Neville alternator on the engine and
an inverter/charger he built himself.
It was quite a deal. I think there was an article in Mechanix
Illustrated or something. Oh yeah, it was four wheel drive-think about
it! The road was the only link between the systems except for one wire
and the common chassis ground.
redundancy. You have to have both systems running not just either or.
Years ago a guy converted a Subaru-he gutted the back out and put a VW
transaxle hooked to a electric motor and batteries in the rear. That
way he could drive pure electric on short trips. He had a foot
controller that interrupted the first inch of brake travel and made
the electric motor generate and charge the batts for braking,a
no-microprocessor elegant solution-need wheel brakes push a little
harder. If the batteries were overcharging he had a 10 kW Globar dummy
load that switched in circuit when braking-the Globar was built in the
rear bumper. Glowed real pretty at night (although it charred the
lower decklid paint eventually). He could charge in the garage, or
underway as he had a huge Leece Neville alternator on the engine and
an inverter/charger he built himself.
It was quite a deal. I think there was an article in Mechanix
Illustrated or something. Oh yeah, it was four wheel drive-think about
it! The road was the only link between the systems except for one wire
and the common chassis ground.