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CRWLR,

You sound a little whipped. Realistic too, I'll grant
that. How do you settle who gets what cars in your marriage?
That's the real issue - not mpg or safety issues.

In my marriage to The Beast we're too indebt to do
anything but alternate. Come aug. her vehicle's paid off and
it's my turn. I know she sees me drooling over H-D's and is
just waiting for me to drop the ball and start begging. Fuggaboutit !

Soon or later she'll start asking me what my "next car"
is going to be. The Kids have already asked. I won't go behind
her back, I don't need too. If she thinks we need a new washer first,
that's fine. Sooner or later she'll get curious. When she hears H-D
( "I knew it !" ) and tries to nix over some B.S. reason, No problem.
Sample dialogue begins:

> "Honey, have you thought about a new car at all ?"

Yeah, I'm getting a Harley when it's affordable. Big one too.
You'll hear me coming a block away. The Kids'll freak !

> "No Way ! You're gonna ride a Harley to work every day? I doubt it."

No. I'm not trading in this time. I'll keep the jeep for 80%
commuting and ride when only when it suits me. My target is
minimum 18 years on the Jeep and the Harley for life. Both
have easy access to aftermarket parts and self-maintainence.
I love my Jeep and I'm happy with it. Any extra play money can
go to one ride or the other.That's enough to satisfy me.

> "There's no way we're buying a Harley !"

OK. But it's MY TURN. Before you buy, I gotta buy and that's how it's
gonna be for me. The longer I wait, the longer you do too.
Consider carefully, Dear.

The Preceding Fantasy Dialogue has been just one version of
Spousal Management - Your millage and/or results may very.

Andrew <wink>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

KJ wrote:
>
> and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore bill?

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

KJ wrote:
>
> and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore bill?

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

KJ wrote:
>
> and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore bill?

KJ

BMW 101 for Bill:

Bimmer = motorcycle
Beemer=automobile

the K1200RS is a motorcycle, in reference to the OP's questions.
a 740i is a car....totally irrelevant for this discussion.

most boxer BIMMERS should get between 45-55 mpg, but as stated earlier, the
"flying brick" K series bikes are trading that mileage for power; now
130bhp, and 0-60 in 3.2 stock.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40480A0C.CD73CD59@***.net...
> My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
> vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KJ wrote:
> >
> > and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore bill?
>

KJ

BMW 101 for Bill:

Bimmer = motorcycle
Beemer=automobile

the K1200RS is a motorcycle, in reference to the OP's questions.
a 740i is a car....totally irrelevant for this discussion.

most boxer BIMMERS should get between 45-55 mpg, but as stated earlier, the
"flying brick" K series bikes are trading that mileage for power; now
130bhp, and 0-60 in 3.2 stock.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40480A0C.CD73CD59@***.net...
> My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
> vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KJ wrote:
> >
> > and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore bill?
>

KJ

BMW 101 for Bill:

Bimmer = motorcycle
Beemer=automobile

the K1200RS is a motorcycle, in reference to the OP's questions.
a 740i is a car....totally irrelevant for this discussion.

most boxer BIMMERS should get between 45-55 mpg, but as stated earlier, the
"flying brick" K series bikes are trading that mileage for power; now
130bhp, and 0-60 in 3.2 stock.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40480A0C.CD73CD59@***.net...
> My Brother owns a 740i V12 Bimmer. Your mileage of course will
> vary: http://www.autobytel.com/content/res...detail/BMW.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> KJ wrote:
> >
> > and your lack of trust is based on what exactly? more folklore bill?
>

Bubba Kahuna

CRWLR wrote:
> My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I need
> more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
>
> I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the BMW to
> finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here, not
> any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on a
> particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want a
> Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be a
> willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if the
> bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones) as
> well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in the
> crotch rockets.
>
> My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the Harley
> type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the 35+
> mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high differential
> in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
>

I ride a 1986 Kawasaki Police 1000 for my main 2-wheel ride. 89 HP, 44
mpg, range about 120 miles on the 3 gallon tank. Full fairing makes it
nice for 'less than perfect' weather, saddle bags (hard stock ones) hold
a lot of stuff, built-in spotlights look like God Himself coming down
the road if you replace the red & blue pursuit lights with 3" driving
lights. Hollywood Motors makes a dual seat conversion for these bikes, I
just stuck a late 70's LTD seat on mine for the wife to ride with me.
She loves it because she says she feels safer on my bike than others
because we're so insanely visible on a huge black & white cruiser that
everyone looks at (especially riding 2-up).
Currently has 126k on the original engine with no work done to it
beyond maitenance. Runs great and doesn't use oil. Thes bikes are made
by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Lincoln, Nebraska and are designed to
NEVER break unless you smash them. These bikes are made for someone to
ride on them 8 to 12 hours every day without tiring the rider, and still
handle real well for a floorboard equipped bike. It actually handles
surprisingly well for it's size. Curb weight is a little under 700 lbs
but you'd never know it's anywhere near that heavy if you know how to
counter steer and weight your outside peg (of course every rider knows
all that uber-basic beginner rider stuff - right?).
I Bought it for $1600 in 1994 w/ 42k on it. I could probably sell it
today for close to what I paid for it despite the mileage.
Don't play cop if you get one, but if you wear a white helmet, everyone
drives real nice around you until you're past them (then it doesn't
matter how stupid they are because they've already made direct eye
contact with you - and people WILL look at you on these bikes).
In California (used to live there), you can split lanes and everyone
gets out of your way instead of crowding you because they're just crabby
selfish dorks who think that you don't have a legal right to lane split
in that state (it IS legal in California, but not anywhere else as far
as I know).

Check out the ads at http://www.pmha.net

Cheers,
- Jeff G
86 Kawasaki Police 1000
82 Kawasaki Police 1000
67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando C-101
50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
60 Model Understanding Wife

Bubba Kahuna

CRWLR wrote:
> My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I need
> more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
>
> I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the BMW to
> finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here, not
> any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on a
> particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want a
> Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be a
> willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if the
> bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones) as
> well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in the
> crotch rockets.
>
> My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the Harley
> type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the 35+
> mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high differential
> in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
>

I ride a 1986 Kawasaki Police 1000 for my main 2-wheel ride. 89 HP, 44
mpg, range about 120 miles on the 3 gallon tank. Full fairing makes it
nice for 'less than perfect' weather, saddle bags (hard stock ones) hold
a lot of stuff, built-in spotlights look like God Himself coming down
the road if you replace the red & blue pursuit lights with 3" driving
lights. Hollywood Motors makes a dual seat conversion for these bikes, I
just stuck a late 70's LTD seat on mine for the wife to ride with me.
She loves it because she says she feels safer on my bike than others
because we're so insanely visible on a huge black & white cruiser that
everyone looks at (especially riding 2-up).
Currently has 126k on the original engine with no work done to it
beyond maitenance. Runs great and doesn't use oil. Thes bikes are made
by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Lincoln, Nebraska and are designed to
NEVER break unless you smash them. These bikes are made for someone to
ride on them 8 to 12 hours every day without tiring the rider, and still
handle real well for a floorboard equipped bike. It actually handles
surprisingly well for it's size. Curb weight is a little under 700 lbs
but you'd never know it's anywhere near that heavy if you know how to
counter steer and weight your outside peg (of course every rider knows
all that uber-basic beginner rider stuff - right?).
I Bought it for $1600 in 1994 w/ 42k on it. I could probably sell it
today for close to what I paid for it despite the mileage.
Don't play cop if you get one, but if you wear a white helmet, everyone
drives real nice around you until you're past them (then it doesn't
matter how stupid they are because they've already made direct eye
contact with you - and people WILL look at you on these bikes).
In California (used to live there), you can split lanes and everyone
gets out of your way instead of crowding you because they're just crabby
selfish dorks who think that you don't have a legal right to lane split
in that state (it IS legal in California, but not anywhere else as far
as I know).

Check out the ads at http://www.pmha.net

Cheers,
- Jeff G
86 Kawasaki Police 1000
82 Kawasaki Police 1000
67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando C-101
50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
60 Model Understanding Wife

Bubba Kahuna

CRWLR wrote:
> My commute is such that I could do it in half the time on a bike, but I need
> more to get Mrs. CRWLR onboard. She is not liking the idea very much.
>
> I want to sell her on the idea that I will save enough on gas for the BMW to
> finance the payment on the bike. I am talking about a Real Bike here, not
> any sissy scooter. I have my eye on a big-bore, but have not settled on a
> particular make or model. I pretended for a long time that I would want a
> Goldwing or equivelent, but that plan supposes that Mrs. CRWLR would be a
> willing passenger. It seems that she won't even go into the garage if the
> bike is out there, let alone slide it between her knees. I have now
> broadened my horizons to include the cruiser class (Harley and clones) as
> well as the touring class (Goldwing and clones). I have no interest in the
> crotch rockets.
>
> My off topic question is, what sort of mileage do you guys with the Harley
> type and the Goldwing type bikes get? I am hoping the number is in the 35+
> mpg range, but my BMW delivers 25 mpg, so I need a pretty high differential
> in bike mileage vs. car mileage to make my sales pitch work.
>

I ride a 1986 Kawasaki Police 1000 for my main 2-wheel ride. 89 HP, 44
mpg, range about 120 miles on the 3 gallon tank. Full fairing makes it
nice for 'less than perfect' weather, saddle bags (hard stock ones) hold
a lot of stuff, built-in spotlights look like God Himself coming down
the road if you replace the red & blue pursuit lights with 3" driving
lights. Hollywood Motors makes a dual seat conversion for these bikes, I
just stuck a late 70's LTD seat on mine for the wife to ride with me.
She loves it because she says she feels safer on my bike than others
because we're so insanely visible on a huge black & white cruiser that
everyone looks at (especially riding 2-up).
Currently has 126k on the original engine with no work done to it
beyond maitenance. Runs great and doesn't use oil. Thes bikes are made
by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Lincoln, Nebraska and are designed to
NEVER break unless you smash them. These bikes are made for someone to
ride on them 8 to 12 hours every day without tiring the rider, and still
handle real well for a floorboard equipped bike. It actually handles
surprisingly well for it's size. Curb weight is a little under 700 lbs
but you'd never know it's anywhere near that heavy if you know how to
counter steer and weight your outside peg (of course every rider knows
all that uber-basic beginner rider stuff - right?).
I Bought it for $1600 in 1994 w/ 42k on it. I could probably sell it
today for close to what I paid for it despite the mileage.
Don't play cop if you get one, but if you wear a white helmet, everyone
drives real nice around you until you're past them (then it doesn't
matter how stupid they are because they've already made direct eye
contact with you - and people WILL look at you on these bikes).
In California (used to live there), you can split lanes and everyone
gets out of your way instead of crowding you because they're just crabby
selfish dorks who think that you don't have a legal right to lane split
in that state (it IS legal in California, but not anywhere else as far
as I know).

Check out the ads at http://www.pmha.net

Cheers,
- Jeff G
86 Kawasaki Police 1000
82 Kawasaki Police 1000
67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando C-101
50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
60 Model Understanding Wife