OT: Lift problems on Dodge Ram
#11
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Re: Lift problems on Dodge Ram
> I don't know what is going on with your steering, but I suggest taking it
> to
> an alignment shop with a good reputation and some experience with lifted
> trucks. Ask around locally. Hopefully you can find someone who can make
> it
> not pull to the right.
I'm looking, small towns are not the best places to find speciality shops
like this.
> What we find with the Jeeps is that lifts tend to cause driveline
> vibrations, but that is mostly with the short wheelbase vehicles. The one
> sure way to avoid this, is not to install a lift! After the fact
> workarounds include transfer case drops, aftermarket CV driveshafts, and
> rotating the rear axle to correct the pinion angle. Then sometimes you
> have
> to point the front pinion down to compensate for the transfer case drop.
> Longer wheelbase vehicles are (usually) free of these problems.
I know_exactly_ what you are saying here - I've dealt with all of these
problems, as you can imagine by looking at my jeep:
http://members.***.net/85cj7/images/Jeep309.jpg
> The cruise problem is just bizarre. Is the speedometer calibration at
> least
> accurate now? You can find this out by timing a measured mile, GPS, or
> following a buddy with a known good speedometer. If you have the dealer
> put
> the calibration back to what it was, does the cruise control go back to
> working?
Speedometer is dead on using a GPS. Haven't tried setting it back
yet...trying to stay away from the dealer, they just seem to mess things up
if the computer can't tell them exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.
> Comment: Don't install a lift kit, just for posing. (Not saying you did,
> just my comment!)
I'll admit I like the looks, and the problems so far and minor and
correctable. I'll not 4 wheel this thing too hard - at least not for 2-3
more years.
> Earle
>
> "HomeBrewer" <homebrewer@***.net> wrote in message
> news:f7cxg.239$W01.75@dukeread08...
>> Not a single comment? If any of you lurk in the dodge.trucks area you
>> will
>> notice that a feller named snoman has answered all of my questions there,
>> the problem is everyone else there seems to hate him. He seems to be
>> very
>> knowledgable, but I'm not sure if he's full of himself or what. He sure
> has
>> a lot of nay-sayers after him.
>>
>>
>> > 1). I had the truck aligned before installing the lift (according to
> lift
>> > instructions) and all was fine. I installed the fabtech lift and the
> truck
>> > is now pulling hard to the right. I had the Dodge dealer align the
>> > front
>> > end and it is still pulling to the right. I returned it to the dealer
> and
>> > had them verify and it is within (factory) specs. Did the fabtech lift
>> > change the specs on the camber, caster, and/or toe? I will contact
> Fabtech
>> > directly about this, but I doubt they will admit to it. I think they
> would
>> > have included this in the instructions if the specs changed, right? If
>> > they can't supply the new specs - how do I correct the problem? Can I
> get
>> > a shop other that the dealer to align the truck without using factory
>> > specs - or - is there no place to start then?
>> >
>> > 2). I have a vibration at 40-60MPH that is not very nice. (no changes
> were
>> > made to the rear drive shaft, etc....)What components could cause this?
> I
>> > had the tires balanced and they used the stick on lead weights inside
> the
>> > rim. Are tires this big able to be balanced like that? I thought there
> was
>> > something that goes inside the big tires that balances them.
>> >
>> > 3). I had the dodge dealer recalibrate the computer / speedometer to
>> > compensate for larger tires. Now the cruise control only works up to
> 45MPH
>> > (I can only turn on cruise below 40 MPH and then using the buttons on
> the
>> > steering wheel accelerate up to 45MPH before it shuts off). Again, I
>> > returned it to the dealer and they says it's not the computer
>> > recalibration. They have never heard of the problem. I know it has
>> > something to do with the big tires and the computer recalibration,
> because
>> > the cruise worked fine just before the recalibration.
>> >
>> > Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
> to
> an alignment shop with a good reputation and some experience with lifted
> trucks. Ask around locally. Hopefully you can find someone who can make
> it
> not pull to the right.
I'm looking, small towns are not the best places to find speciality shops
like this.
> What we find with the Jeeps is that lifts tend to cause driveline
> vibrations, but that is mostly with the short wheelbase vehicles. The one
> sure way to avoid this, is not to install a lift! After the fact
> workarounds include transfer case drops, aftermarket CV driveshafts, and
> rotating the rear axle to correct the pinion angle. Then sometimes you
> have
> to point the front pinion down to compensate for the transfer case drop.
> Longer wheelbase vehicles are (usually) free of these problems.
I know_exactly_ what you are saying here - I've dealt with all of these
problems, as you can imagine by looking at my jeep:
http://members.***.net/85cj7/images/Jeep309.jpg
> The cruise problem is just bizarre. Is the speedometer calibration at
> least
> accurate now? You can find this out by timing a measured mile, GPS, or
> following a buddy with a known good speedometer. If you have the dealer
> put
> the calibration back to what it was, does the cruise control go back to
> working?
Speedometer is dead on using a GPS. Haven't tried setting it back
yet...trying to stay away from the dealer, they just seem to mess things up
if the computer can't tell them exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.
> Comment: Don't install a lift kit, just for posing. (Not saying you did,
> just my comment!)
I'll admit I like the looks, and the problems so far and minor and
correctable. I'll not 4 wheel this thing too hard - at least not for 2-3
more years.
> Earle
>
> "HomeBrewer" <homebrewer@***.net> wrote in message
> news:f7cxg.239$W01.75@dukeread08...
>> Not a single comment? If any of you lurk in the dodge.trucks area you
>> will
>> notice that a feller named snoman has answered all of my questions there,
>> the problem is everyone else there seems to hate him. He seems to be
>> very
>> knowledgable, but I'm not sure if he's full of himself or what. He sure
> has
>> a lot of nay-sayers after him.
>>
>>
>> > 1). I had the truck aligned before installing the lift (according to
> lift
>> > instructions) and all was fine. I installed the fabtech lift and the
> truck
>> > is now pulling hard to the right. I had the Dodge dealer align the
>> > front
>> > end and it is still pulling to the right. I returned it to the dealer
> and
>> > had them verify and it is within (factory) specs. Did the fabtech lift
>> > change the specs on the camber, caster, and/or toe? I will contact
> Fabtech
>> > directly about this, but I doubt they will admit to it. I think they
> would
>> > have included this in the instructions if the specs changed, right? If
>> > they can't supply the new specs - how do I correct the problem? Can I
> get
>> > a shop other that the dealer to align the truck without using factory
>> > specs - or - is there no place to start then?
>> >
>> > 2). I have a vibration at 40-60MPH that is not very nice. (no changes
> were
>> > made to the rear drive shaft, etc....)What components could cause this?
> I
>> > had the tires balanced and they used the stick on lead weights inside
> the
>> > rim. Are tires this big able to be balanced like that? I thought there
> was
>> > something that goes inside the big tires that balances them.
>> >
>> > 3). I had the dodge dealer recalibrate the computer / speedometer to
>> > compensate for larger tires. Now the cruise control only works up to
> 45MPH
>> > (I can only turn on cruise below 40 MPH and then using the buttons on
> the
>> > steering wheel accelerate up to 45MPH before it shuts off). Again, I
>> > returned it to the dealer and they says it's not the computer
>> > recalibration. They have never heard of the problem. I know it has
>> > something to do with the big tires and the computer recalibration,
> because
>> > the cruise worked fine just before the recalibration.
>> >
>> > Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lift problems on Dodge Ram
> I don't know what is going on with your steering, but I suggest taking it
> to
> an alignment shop with a good reputation and some experience with lifted
> trucks. Ask around locally. Hopefully you can find someone who can make
> it
> not pull to the right.
I'm looking, small towns are not the best places to find speciality shops
like this.
> What we find with the Jeeps is that lifts tend to cause driveline
> vibrations, but that is mostly with the short wheelbase vehicles. The one
> sure way to avoid this, is not to install a lift! After the fact
> workarounds include transfer case drops, aftermarket CV driveshafts, and
> rotating the rear axle to correct the pinion angle. Then sometimes you
> have
> to point the front pinion down to compensate for the transfer case drop.
> Longer wheelbase vehicles are (usually) free of these problems.
I know_exactly_ what you are saying here - I've dealt with all of these
problems, as you can imagine by looking at my jeep:
http://members.***.net/85cj7/images/Jeep309.jpg
> The cruise problem is just bizarre. Is the speedometer calibration at
> least
> accurate now? You can find this out by timing a measured mile, GPS, or
> following a buddy with a known good speedometer. If you have the dealer
> put
> the calibration back to what it was, does the cruise control go back to
> working?
Speedometer is dead on using a GPS. Haven't tried setting it back
yet...trying to stay away from the dealer, they just seem to mess things up
if the computer can't tell them exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.
> Comment: Don't install a lift kit, just for posing. (Not saying you did,
> just my comment!)
I'll admit I like the looks, and the problems so far and minor and
correctable. I'll not 4 wheel this thing too hard - at least not for 2-3
more years.
> Earle
>
> "HomeBrewer" <homebrewer@***.net> wrote in message
> news:f7cxg.239$W01.75@dukeread08...
>> Not a single comment? If any of you lurk in the dodge.trucks area you
>> will
>> notice that a feller named snoman has answered all of my questions there,
>> the problem is everyone else there seems to hate him. He seems to be
>> very
>> knowledgable, but I'm not sure if he's full of himself or what. He sure
> has
>> a lot of nay-sayers after him.
>>
>>
>> > 1). I had the truck aligned before installing the lift (according to
> lift
>> > instructions) and all was fine. I installed the fabtech lift and the
> truck
>> > is now pulling hard to the right. I had the Dodge dealer align the
>> > front
>> > end and it is still pulling to the right. I returned it to the dealer
> and
>> > had them verify and it is within (factory) specs. Did the fabtech lift
>> > change the specs on the camber, caster, and/or toe? I will contact
> Fabtech
>> > directly about this, but I doubt they will admit to it. I think they
> would
>> > have included this in the instructions if the specs changed, right? If
>> > they can't supply the new specs - how do I correct the problem? Can I
> get
>> > a shop other that the dealer to align the truck without using factory
>> > specs - or - is there no place to start then?
>> >
>> > 2). I have a vibration at 40-60MPH that is not very nice. (no changes
> were
>> > made to the rear drive shaft, etc....)What components could cause this?
> I
>> > had the tires balanced and they used the stick on lead weights inside
> the
>> > rim. Are tires this big able to be balanced like that? I thought there
> was
>> > something that goes inside the big tires that balances them.
>> >
>> > 3). I had the dodge dealer recalibrate the computer / speedometer to
>> > compensate for larger tires. Now the cruise control only works up to
> 45MPH
>> > (I can only turn on cruise below 40 MPH and then using the buttons on
> the
>> > steering wheel accelerate up to 45MPH before it shuts off). Again, I
>> > returned it to the dealer and they says it's not the computer
>> > recalibration. They have never heard of the problem. I know it has
>> > something to do with the big tires and the computer recalibration,
> because
>> > the cruise worked fine just before the recalibration.
>> >
>> > Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
> to
> an alignment shop with a good reputation and some experience with lifted
> trucks. Ask around locally. Hopefully you can find someone who can make
> it
> not pull to the right.
I'm looking, small towns are not the best places to find speciality shops
like this.
> What we find with the Jeeps is that lifts tend to cause driveline
> vibrations, but that is mostly with the short wheelbase vehicles. The one
> sure way to avoid this, is not to install a lift! After the fact
> workarounds include transfer case drops, aftermarket CV driveshafts, and
> rotating the rear axle to correct the pinion angle. Then sometimes you
> have
> to point the front pinion down to compensate for the transfer case drop.
> Longer wheelbase vehicles are (usually) free of these problems.
I know_exactly_ what you are saying here - I've dealt with all of these
problems, as you can imagine by looking at my jeep:
http://members.***.net/85cj7/images/Jeep309.jpg
> The cruise problem is just bizarre. Is the speedometer calibration at
> least
> accurate now? You can find this out by timing a measured mile, GPS, or
> following a buddy with a known good speedometer. If you have the dealer
> put
> the calibration back to what it was, does the cruise control go back to
> working?
Speedometer is dead on using a GPS. Haven't tried setting it back
yet...trying to stay away from the dealer, they just seem to mess things up
if the computer can't tell them exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.
> Comment: Don't install a lift kit, just for posing. (Not saying you did,
> just my comment!)
I'll admit I like the looks, and the problems so far and minor and
correctable. I'll not 4 wheel this thing too hard - at least not for 2-3
more years.
> Earle
>
> "HomeBrewer" <homebrewer@***.net> wrote in message
> news:f7cxg.239$W01.75@dukeread08...
>> Not a single comment? If any of you lurk in the dodge.trucks area you
>> will
>> notice that a feller named snoman has answered all of my questions there,
>> the problem is everyone else there seems to hate him. He seems to be
>> very
>> knowledgable, but I'm not sure if he's full of himself or what. He sure
> has
>> a lot of nay-sayers after him.
>>
>>
>> > 1). I had the truck aligned before installing the lift (according to
> lift
>> > instructions) and all was fine. I installed the fabtech lift and the
> truck
>> > is now pulling hard to the right. I had the Dodge dealer align the
>> > front
>> > end and it is still pulling to the right. I returned it to the dealer
> and
>> > had them verify and it is within (factory) specs. Did the fabtech lift
>> > change the specs on the camber, caster, and/or toe? I will contact
> Fabtech
>> > directly about this, but I doubt they will admit to it. I think they
> would
>> > have included this in the instructions if the specs changed, right? If
>> > they can't supply the new specs - how do I correct the problem? Can I
> get
>> > a shop other that the dealer to align the truck without using factory
>> > specs - or - is there no place to start then?
>> >
>> > 2). I have a vibration at 40-60MPH that is not very nice. (no changes
> were
>> > made to the rear drive shaft, etc....)What components could cause this?
> I
>> > had the tires balanced and they used the stick on lead weights inside
> the
>> > rim. Are tires this big able to be balanced like that? I thought there
> was
>> > something that goes inside the big tires that balances them.
>> >
>> > 3). I had the dodge dealer recalibrate the computer / speedometer to
>> > compensate for larger tires. Now the cruise control only works up to
> 45MPH
>> > (I can only turn on cruise below 40 MPH and then using the buttons on
> the
>> > steering wheel accelerate up to 45MPH before it shuts off). Again, I
>> > returned it to the dealer and they says it's not the computer
>> > recalibration. They have never heard of the problem. I know it has
>> > something to do with the big tires and the computer recalibration,
> because
>> > the cruise worked fine just before the recalibration.
>> >
>> > Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lift problems on Dodge Ram
> I don't know what is going on with your steering, but I suggest taking it
> to
> an alignment shop with a good reputation and some experience with lifted
> trucks. Ask around locally. Hopefully you can find someone who can make
> it
> not pull to the right.
I'm looking, small towns are not the best places to find speciality shops
like this.
> What we find with the Jeeps is that lifts tend to cause driveline
> vibrations, but that is mostly with the short wheelbase vehicles. The one
> sure way to avoid this, is not to install a lift! After the fact
> workarounds include transfer case drops, aftermarket CV driveshafts, and
> rotating the rear axle to correct the pinion angle. Then sometimes you
> have
> to point the front pinion down to compensate for the transfer case drop.
> Longer wheelbase vehicles are (usually) free of these problems.
I know_exactly_ what you are saying here - I've dealt with all of these
problems, as you can imagine by looking at my jeep:
http://members.***.net/85cj7/images/Jeep309.jpg
> The cruise problem is just bizarre. Is the speedometer calibration at
> least
> accurate now? You can find this out by timing a measured mile, GPS, or
> following a buddy with a known good speedometer. If you have the dealer
> put
> the calibration back to what it was, does the cruise control go back to
> working?
Speedometer is dead on using a GPS. Haven't tried setting it back
yet...trying to stay away from the dealer, they just seem to mess things up
if the computer can't tell them exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.
> Comment: Don't install a lift kit, just for posing. (Not saying you did,
> just my comment!)
I'll admit I like the looks, and the problems so far and minor and
correctable. I'll not 4 wheel this thing too hard - at least not for 2-3
more years.
> Earle
>
> "HomeBrewer" <homebrewer@***.net> wrote in message
> news:f7cxg.239$W01.75@dukeread08...
>> Not a single comment? If any of you lurk in the dodge.trucks area you
>> will
>> notice that a feller named snoman has answered all of my questions there,
>> the problem is everyone else there seems to hate him. He seems to be
>> very
>> knowledgable, but I'm not sure if he's full of himself or what. He sure
> has
>> a lot of nay-sayers after him.
>>
>>
>> > 1). I had the truck aligned before installing the lift (according to
> lift
>> > instructions) and all was fine. I installed the fabtech lift and the
> truck
>> > is now pulling hard to the right. I had the Dodge dealer align the
>> > front
>> > end and it is still pulling to the right. I returned it to the dealer
> and
>> > had them verify and it is within (factory) specs. Did the fabtech lift
>> > change the specs on the camber, caster, and/or toe? I will contact
> Fabtech
>> > directly about this, but I doubt they will admit to it. I think they
> would
>> > have included this in the instructions if the specs changed, right? If
>> > they can't supply the new specs - how do I correct the problem? Can I
> get
>> > a shop other that the dealer to align the truck without using factory
>> > specs - or - is there no place to start then?
>> >
>> > 2). I have a vibration at 40-60MPH that is not very nice. (no changes
> were
>> > made to the rear drive shaft, etc....)What components could cause this?
> I
>> > had the tires balanced and they used the stick on lead weights inside
> the
>> > rim. Are tires this big able to be balanced like that? I thought there
> was
>> > something that goes inside the big tires that balances them.
>> >
>> > 3). I had the dodge dealer recalibrate the computer / speedometer to
>> > compensate for larger tires. Now the cruise control only works up to
> 45MPH
>> > (I can only turn on cruise below 40 MPH and then using the buttons on
> the
>> > steering wheel accelerate up to 45MPH before it shuts off). Again, I
>> > returned it to the dealer and they says it's not the computer
>> > recalibration. They have never heard of the problem. I know it has
>> > something to do with the big tires and the computer recalibration,
> because
>> > the cruise worked fine just before the recalibration.
>> >
>> > Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
> to
> an alignment shop with a good reputation and some experience with lifted
> trucks. Ask around locally. Hopefully you can find someone who can make
> it
> not pull to the right.
I'm looking, small towns are not the best places to find speciality shops
like this.
> What we find with the Jeeps is that lifts tend to cause driveline
> vibrations, but that is mostly with the short wheelbase vehicles. The one
> sure way to avoid this, is not to install a lift! After the fact
> workarounds include transfer case drops, aftermarket CV driveshafts, and
> rotating the rear axle to correct the pinion angle. Then sometimes you
> have
> to point the front pinion down to compensate for the transfer case drop.
> Longer wheelbase vehicles are (usually) free of these problems.
I know_exactly_ what you are saying here - I've dealt with all of these
problems, as you can imagine by looking at my jeep:
http://members.***.net/85cj7/images/Jeep309.jpg
> The cruise problem is just bizarre. Is the speedometer calibration at
> least
> accurate now? You can find this out by timing a measured mile, GPS, or
> following a buddy with a known good speedometer. If you have the dealer
> put
> the calibration back to what it was, does the cruise control go back to
> working?
Speedometer is dead on using a GPS. Haven't tried setting it back
yet...trying to stay away from the dealer, they just seem to mess things up
if the computer can't tell them exactly what is wrong and how to fix it.
> Comment: Don't install a lift kit, just for posing. (Not saying you did,
> just my comment!)
I'll admit I like the looks, and the problems so far and minor and
correctable. I'll not 4 wheel this thing too hard - at least not for 2-3
more years.
> Earle
>
> "HomeBrewer" <homebrewer@***.net> wrote in message
> news:f7cxg.239$W01.75@dukeread08...
>> Not a single comment? If any of you lurk in the dodge.trucks area you
>> will
>> notice that a feller named snoman has answered all of my questions there,
>> the problem is everyone else there seems to hate him. He seems to be
>> very
>> knowledgable, but I'm not sure if he's full of himself or what. He sure
> has
>> a lot of nay-sayers after him.
>>
>>
>> > 1). I had the truck aligned before installing the lift (according to
> lift
>> > instructions) and all was fine. I installed the fabtech lift and the
> truck
>> > is now pulling hard to the right. I had the Dodge dealer align the
>> > front
>> > end and it is still pulling to the right. I returned it to the dealer
> and
>> > had them verify and it is within (factory) specs. Did the fabtech lift
>> > change the specs on the camber, caster, and/or toe? I will contact
> Fabtech
>> > directly about this, but I doubt they will admit to it. I think they
> would
>> > have included this in the instructions if the specs changed, right? If
>> > they can't supply the new specs - how do I correct the problem? Can I
> get
>> > a shop other that the dealer to align the truck without using factory
>> > specs - or - is there no place to start then?
>> >
>> > 2). I have a vibration at 40-60MPH that is not very nice. (no changes
> were
>> > made to the rear drive shaft, etc....)What components could cause this?
> I
>> > had the tires balanced and they used the stick on lead weights inside
> the
>> > rim. Are tires this big able to be balanced like that? I thought there
> was
>> > something that goes inside the big tires that balances them.
>> >
>> > 3). I had the dodge dealer recalibrate the computer / speedometer to
>> > compensate for larger tires. Now the cruise control only works up to
> 45MPH
>> > (I can only turn on cruise below 40 MPH and then using the buttons on
> the
>> > steering wheel accelerate up to 45MPH before it shuts off). Again, I
>> > returned it to the dealer and they says it's not the computer
>> > recalibration. They have never heard of the problem. I know it has
>> > something to do with the big tires and the computer recalibration,
> because
>> > the cruise worked fine just before the recalibration.
>> >
>> > Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>