While true the isolationism was popular in the US prior to WWII, it's
incorrect to assume that the US "waited to be attacked" before it got
involved in the war; it was quite involved prior to officially entering the
war. The US Atlantic Fleet was quite active protecting Lend-Lease shipmaents
to England from German U-boats, a number of such were lost prior to Dec 8
1941. And before and during the Battle of Britain, many US Army Air Corps
pilots were flying in the RAF in England's defense.

I would submit that Canada was actively fighting in the war prior to the
US's official entry mainly because of the closer cultural and political ties
to Great Britain...wasn't the King of England soveriegn in some way over
Canada at the time?

> Probably his best stroke at justifying the Iraq adventure was reminding
> Canadians that they took on the ***** preemptively while the US stood by
> and waited to be attacked:
>
> " In the early days of World War II, when the United States was still
> wrestling with isolationism, Canadian forces were already engaging the
> enemies of freedom from the Atlantic -- across the Atlantic. At the
> time, some Canadians argued that Canada had not been attacked and had no
> interest in fighting a distant war. Your Prime Minister, McKenzie King,
> gave this answer: "We cannot defend our country and save our homes and
> families by waiting for the enemy to attack us. To remain on the
> defensive is the surest way to bring the war to Canada. Of course, we
> should protect our coasts and strengthen our ports and cities against
> attack," but the Prime Minister went on to say, "we must also go out and
> meet the enemy before he reaches our shores. We must defeat him before
> he attacks us, before our cities are laid to waste." McKenzie King was
> correct then, and we must always remember the wisdom of his words today.
>

 

I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
"the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
honest, plain-spoken.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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wkearney99 wrote:
>
> His speech style is more like "see ---- run" rather than anything even
> resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So instead
> of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot leading
> the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> really sad.

 

I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
"the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
honest, plain-spoken.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

wkearney99 wrote:
>
> His speech style is more like "see ---- run" rather than anything even
> resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So instead
> of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot leading
> the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> really sad.

 

I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
"the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
honest, plain-spoken.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

wkearney99 wrote:
>
> His speech style is more like "see ---- run" rather than anything even
> resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So instead
> of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot leading
> the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> really sad.

 

Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B7749C.87FDABF1@***.net...
> I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
> ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
> heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
> "the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
> honest, plain-spoken.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
> >
> > His speech style is more like "see ---- run" rather than anything even
> > resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> > speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> > inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So
instead
> > of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot
leading
> > the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> > really sad.

 

Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B7749C.87FDABF1@***.net...
> I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
> ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
> heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
> "the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
> honest, plain-spoken.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
> >
> > His speech style is more like "see ---- run" rather than anything even
> > resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> > speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> > inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So
instead
> > of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot
leading
> > the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> > really sad.

 

Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B7749C.87FDABF1@***.net...
> I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
> ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
> heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
> "the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
> honest, plain-spoken.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
> >
> > His speech style is more like "see ---- run" rather than anything even
> > resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> > speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> > inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So
instead
> > of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot
leading
> > the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> > really sad.

 

Or to speak softly and carry a big stick.
I wouldn't sign that BS either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
> well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
> communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
> multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)

 

Or to speak softly and carry a big stick.
I wouldn't sign that BS either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
> well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
> communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
> multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)

 

Or to speak softly and carry a big stick.
I wouldn't sign that BS either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
> well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
> communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
> multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)