OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Bill,
What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
I don't know of it. We have a problematic subway in Los Angeles:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles.htm I know of many unused tunnels that go though the mountain ranges, one to Palm Springs, I have no idea why the dug it. And a bunch of top secret stuff in the San Bernardino mountains. A tunnel under the Tejon Pass/Grapevine would be wonderful for the trucker. Where'd you find this rumor? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > Bill, > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
I don't know of it. We have a problematic subway in Los Angeles:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles.htm I know of many unused tunnels that go though the mountain ranges, one to Palm Springs, I have no idea why the dug it. And a bunch of top secret stuff in the San Bernardino mountains. A tunnel under the Tejon Pass/Grapevine would be wonderful for the trucker. Where'd you find this rumor? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > Bill, > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
I don't know of it. We have a problematic subway in Los Angeles:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles.htm I know of many unused tunnels that go though the mountain ranges, one to Palm Springs, I have no idea why the dug it. And a bunch of top secret stuff in the San Bernardino mountains. A tunnel under the Tejon Pass/Grapevine would be wonderful for the trucker. Where'd you find this rumor? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > Bill, > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Geez, there's barely a mountain there. It's scenic though, the
Greenies must be in the way of widening the two lane going from San Clemente to Temecula: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1306807 "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > I don't know of it. We have a problematic subway in Los Angeles: > http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles.htm I know of many unused > tunnels that go though the mountain ranges, one to Palm Springs, I have > no idea why the dug it. And a bunch of top secret stuff in the San > Bernardino mountains. A tunnel under the Tejon Pass/Grapevine would be > wonderful for the trucker. Where'd you find this rumor? > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Billy Ray wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Geez, there's barely a mountain there. It's scenic though, the
Greenies must be in the way of widening the two lane going from San Clemente to Temecula: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1306807 "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > I don't know of it. We have a problematic subway in Los Angeles: > http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles.htm I know of many unused > tunnels that go though the mountain ranges, one to Palm Springs, I have > no idea why the dug it. And a bunch of top secret stuff in the San > Bernardino mountains. A tunnel under the Tejon Pass/Grapevine would be > wonderful for the trucker. Where'd you find this rumor? > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Billy Ray wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Geez, there's barely a mountain there. It's scenic though, the
Greenies must be in the way of widening the two lane going from San Clemente to Temecula: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1306807 "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > I don't know of it. We have a problematic subway in Los Angeles: > http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles.htm I know of many unused > tunnels that go though the mountain ranges, one to Palm Springs, I have > no idea why the dug it. And a bunch of top secret stuff in the San > Bernardino mountains. A tunnel under the Tejon Pass/Grapevine would be > wonderful for the trucker. Where'd you find this rumor? > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Billy Ray wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill, > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? > > Actually, there's two of them in consideration. One would go from roughly Glendale to Palmdale, circumventing the "dogleg" of the Northwest on the 5 to Northeast on the 14 route. There's an awful lot of traffic every day that goes an awful lot of extra miles to go around the mountains. The other is along the route of the Ortega Highway, State Rt. 74 between roughly Lake Elsinore to San Juan Capistrano. I don't know much about this one, but I recall something about them looking at a tunnel. 74 is a narow mountain road with lots of curves and grades. As for being a fault zone....well that pretty much covers all of California, not to mention coastal Oregon and Washington. I just remember that when the quake hit in the Bay Area, the bridge fell apart, but BART continued to run under the bay! Another tidbit: For about 30 years, there has been a fight about completing the last few miles of the North end of the 710 through South Pasadena to connect with the 134/210. NIMBY problems, folks not wanting to divide old neighborhoods, etc. Recently, they figured out that with today's tunneling technology, and the price of the real estate, it would be cheaper to tunnel under the houses than to buy them up! Best Regards, DAve |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill, > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? > > Actually, there's two of them in consideration. One would go from roughly Glendale to Palmdale, circumventing the "dogleg" of the Northwest on the 5 to Northeast on the 14 route. There's an awful lot of traffic every day that goes an awful lot of extra miles to go around the mountains. The other is along the route of the Ortega Highway, State Rt. 74 between roughly Lake Elsinore to San Juan Capistrano. I don't know much about this one, but I recall something about them looking at a tunnel. 74 is a narow mountain road with lots of curves and grades. As for being a fault zone....well that pretty much covers all of California, not to mention coastal Oregon and Washington. I just remember that when the quake hit in the Bay Area, the bridge fell apart, but BART continued to run under the bay! Another tidbit: For about 30 years, there has been a fight about completing the last few miles of the North end of the 710 through South Pasadena to connect with the 134/210. NIMBY problems, folks not wanting to divide old neighborhoods, etc. Recently, they figured out that with today's tunneling technology, and the price of the real estate, it would be cheaper to tunnel under the houses than to buy them up! Best Regards, DAve |
Re: OT: Jeep traffic in Calif
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill, > > What is this I hear about them wanting to build a 11 mile long highway > tunnel through a fault zone outside LA? > > Actually, there's two of them in consideration. One would go from roughly Glendale to Palmdale, circumventing the "dogleg" of the Northwest on the 5 to Northeast on the 14 route. There's an awful lot of traffic every day that goes an awful lot of extra miles to go around the mountains. The other is along the route of the Ortega Highway, State Rt. 74 between roughly Lake Elsinore to San Juan Capistrano. I don't know much about this one, but I recall something about them looking at a tunnel. 74 is a narow mountain road with lots of curves and grades. As for being a fault zone....well that pretty much covers all of California, not to mention coastal Oregon and Washington. I just remember that when the quake hit in the Bay Area, the bridge fell apart, but BART continued to run under the bay! Another tidbit: For about 30 years, there has been a fight about completing the last few miles of the North end of the 710 through South Pasadena to connect with the 134/210. NIMBY problems, folks not wanting to divide old neighborhoods, etc. Recently, they figured out that with today's tunneling technology, and the price of the real estate, it would be cheaper to tunnel under the houses than to buy them up! Best Regards, DAve |
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