OT: Garage Ideas
09-21-2005, 11:20 AM
#31
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Re: OT: Garage Ideas
Lots of light - 1 watt of florescent per quare foot.
Lots of insulation to keep it warm or cool and clean
Lots of power: at least TWO 20 amp circuits for wall outlets with
outlets every 8' and at a bit over 4' high (higher than the bench and
higher than the 4'x8' plywood leaning against the wall.
20 amp, 30 amp, and 50/60 amp 240 circuits, preferably with more than
one outlet per circuit. (for spot welder, air compressor, welder)
full sub panel, somewhere around 100 amps, 60 amp is marginal
Paint walls white or very light color, use semi gloss bathroom paint.
Have the floor hard troweled, put down a 2 part expoy finish
Proper heat, no unvented heaters!
Cosnider A/C if you live in a warm humid climate.
Make it bigger if you can, junk expands to fill the space available.
Consider that if you are working on a car you would like to have a full
4' to 5' all the way around it to leave room for the tools and jacks.
That works out to 16'x 24' of OPEN space per vehicle. If you have bench,
machine or wood tools, etc, you are marginal for comfortable space for
your work space.
Stick framing vs pole barn vs steel all have pros and cons.
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
>
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
>
> Any ideas are appreciated!
>
> Jason
>
>
Lots of insulation to keep it warm or cool and clean
Lots of power: at least TWO 20 amp circuits for wall outlets with
outlets every 8' and at a bit over 4' high (higher than the bench and
higher than the 4'x8' plywood leaning against the wall.
20 amp, 30 amp, and 50/60 amp 240 circuits, preferably with more than
one outlet per circuit. (for spot welder, air compressor, welder)
full sub panel, somewhere around 100 amps, 60 amp is marginal
Paint walls white or very light color, use semi gloss bathroom paint.
Have the floor hard troweled, put down a 2 part expoy finish
Proper heat, no unvented heaters!
Cosnider A/C if you live in a warm humid climate.
Make it bigger if you can, junk expands to fill the space available.
Consider that if you are working on a car you would like to have a full
4' to 5' all the way around it to leave room for the tools and jacks.
That works out to 16'x 24' of OPEN space per vehicle. If you have bench,
machine or wood tools, etc, you are marginal for comfortable space for
your work space.
Stick framing vs pole barn vs steel all have pros and cons.
Pi-Eyed Piper wrote:
> So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
>
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
>
> Any ideas are appreciated!
>
> Jason
>
>
09-21-2005, 11:24 AM
#32
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Re: Garage Ideas
You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
In my area it is six per circuit.
Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
breaker panel and used up 30.
Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
brighten the shop.
A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
before you pour the floor.
Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
dealt with both these companies in the past.
For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
copy as you will be referring to it often.
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"Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> etc...
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
> Any ideas are appreciated!"
>
> A bathroom:
> A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> out
> of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> destroying your home.
> Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> by
> just pulling the hose down.
> Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> A good work bench for tools
> Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> car.
>
> Sarge
>
>
>
You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
In my area it is six per circuit.
Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
breaker panel and used up 30.
Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
brighten the shop.
A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
before you pour the floor.
Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
dealt with both these companies in the past.
For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
copy as you will be referring to it often.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> etc...
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
> Any ideas are appreciated!"
>
> A bathroom:
> A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> out
> of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> destroying your home.
> Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> by
> just pulling the hose down.
> Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> A good work bench for tools
> Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> car.
>
> Sarge
>
>
>
09-21-2005, 11:24 AM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
In my area it is six per circuit.
Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
breaker panel and used up 30.
Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
brighten the shop.
A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
before you pour the floor.
Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
dealt with both these companies in the past.
For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
copy as you will be referring to it often.
--
..
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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"Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> etc...
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
> Any ideas are appreciated!"
>
> A bathroom:
> A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> out
> of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> destroying your home.
> Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> by
> just pulling the hose down.
> Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> A good work bench for tools
> Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> car.
>
> Sarge
>
>
>
You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
In my area it is six per circuit.
Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
breaker panel and used up 30.
Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
brighten the shop.
A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
before you pour the floor.
Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
dealt with both these companies in the past.
For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
copy as you will be referring to it often.
--
..
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> etc...
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
> Any ideas are appreciated!"
>
> A bathroom:
> A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> out
> of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> destroying your home.
> Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> by
> just pulling the hose down.
> Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> A good work bench for tools
> Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> car.
>
> Sarge
>
>
>
09-21-2005, 11:24 AM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
In my area it is six per circuit.
Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
breaker panel and used up 30.
Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
brighten the shop.
A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
before you pour the floor.
Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
dealt with both these companies in the past.
For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
copy as you will be referring to it often.
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> etc...
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
> Any ideas are appreciated!"
>
> A bathroom:
> A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> out
> of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> destroying your home.
> Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> by
> just pulling the hose down.
> Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> A good work bench for tools
> Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> car.
>
> Sarge
>
>
>
You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
In my area it is six per circuit.
Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
breaker panel and used up 30.
Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
brighten the shop.
A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
before you pour the floor.
Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
dealt with both these companies in the past.
For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
copy as you will be referring to it often.
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> etc...
> Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> leave out?
> Any ideas are appreciated!"
>
> A bathroom:
> A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> out
> of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> destroying your home.
> Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> by
> just pulling the hose down.
> Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> A good work bench for tools
> Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> car.
>
> Sarge
>
>
>
09-21-2005, 11:40 AM
#35
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Re: Garage Ideas
First, it isn't big enough.
Seriously.
24x48 should be your minimum with a side door and a roll up door on each
end.
One of the things I really wish I had in my shop or garage is a drain in the
floor so I can wash my vehicles inside and hose down the floor when it gets
grubby..
Water available and of course a good sink for grubby hands. Loads of power
outlets and good lighting.
Lots of good organized storage is a must and a solid workbench.
Good lighting and skylights for natural light.
A 220 outlet for a welder and an electrical panel that would handle a
welder, air compressor and any other power tool you may add to it.
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"Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
: So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
:
: Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
: leave out?
:
: Any ideas are appreciated!
:
: Jason
:
:
Seriously.
24x48 should be your minimum with a side door and a roll up door on each
end.
One of the things I really wish I had in my shop or garage is a drain in the
floor so I can wash my vehicles inside and hose down the floor when it gets
grubby..
Water available and of course a good sink for grubby hands. Loads of power
outlets and good lighting.
Lots of good organized storage is a must and a solid workbench.
Good lighting and skylights for natural light.
A 220 outlet for a welder and an electrical panel that would handle a
welder, air compressor and any other power tool you may add to it.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
: So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
:
: Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
: leave out?
:
: Any ideas are appreciated!
:
: Jason
:
:
09-21-2005, 11:40 AM
#36
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Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
First, it isn't big enough.
Seriously.
24x48 should be your minimum with a side door and a roll up door on each
end.
One of the things I really wish I had in my shop or garage is a drain in the
floor so I can wash my vehicles inside and hose down the floor when it gets
grubby..
Water available and of course a good sink for grubby hands. Loads of power
outlets and good lighting.
Lots of good organized storage is a must and a solid workbench.
Good lighting and skylights for natural light.
A 220 outlet for a welder and an electrical panel that would handle a
welder, air compressor and any other power tool you may add to it.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
: So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
:
: Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
: leave out?
:
: Any ideas are appreciated!
:
: Jason
:
:
Seriously.
24x48 should be your minimum with a side door and a roll up door on each
end.
One of the things I really wish I had in my shop or garage is a drain in the
floor so I can wash my vehicles inside and hose down the floor when it gets
grubby..
Water available and of course a good sink for grubby hands. Loads of power
outlets and good lighting.
Lots of good organized storage is a must and a solid workbench.
Good lighting and skylights for natural light.
A 220 outlet for a welder and an electrical panel that would handle a
welder, air compressor and any other power tool you may add to it.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
: So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
:
: Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
: leave out?
:
: Any ideas are appreciated!
:
: Jason
:
:
09-21-2005, 11:40 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
First, it isn't big enough.
Seriously.
24x48 should be your minimum with a side door and a roll up door on each
end.
One of the things I really wish I had in my shop or garage is a drain in the
floor so I can wash my vehicles inside and hose down the floor when it gets
grubby..
Water available and of course a good sink for grubby hands. Loads of power
outlets and good lighting.
Lots of good organized storage is a must and a solid workbench.
Good lighting and skylights for natural light.
A 220 outlet for a welder and an electrical panel that would handle a
welder, air compressor and any other power tool you may add to it.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
: So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
:
: Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
: leave out?
:
: Any ideas are appreciated!
:
: Jason
:
:
Seriously.
24x48 should be your minimum with a side door and a roll up door on each
end.
One of the things I really wish I had in my shop or garage is a drain in the
floor so I can wash my vehicles inside and hose down the floor when it gets
grubby..
Water available and of course a good sink for grubby hands. Loads of power
outlets and good lighting.
Lots of good organized storage is a must and a solid workbench.
Good lighting and skylights for natural light.
A 220 outlet for a welder and an electrical panel that would handle a
welder, air compressor and any other power tool you may add to it.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Pi-Eyed Piper" <asd@asd.com> wrote in message
news:vv4Ye.533546$s54.193148@pd7tw2no...
: So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated, etc...
:
: Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
: leave out?
:
: Any ideas are appreciated!
:
: Jason
:
:
09-21-2005, 11:54 AM
#38
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Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
One thing I prefer to do with each power outlet is to make the top and
bottom sockets on different fuses/breakers. That way I can run 2 power
tools off the one plug-in without worrying about blowing breakers. I do
this for kitchens too.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
>
> You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
> 'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
> apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
> to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
> outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
> building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
> In my area it is six per circuit.
>
> Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
> slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
> breaker panel and used up 30.
>
> Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
> to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
>
> Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
> walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
> tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
> garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
> white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
> brighten the shop.
>
> A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
> added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
> filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
> before you pour the floor.
>
> Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
> properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
> 100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
> our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
> near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
> will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
>
> Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
> compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
> connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
> connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
> somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
> drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
>
> If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
> eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
> a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
>
> Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
> available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
>
> Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
> dealt with both these companies in the past.
>
> For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
> do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
> copy as you will be referring to it often.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
> news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> > etc...
> > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> > leave out?
> > Any ideas are appreciated!"
> >
> > A bathroom:
> > A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> > throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> > climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> > out
> > of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> > destroying your home.
> > Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> > Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> > by
> > just pulling the hose down.
> > Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> > A good work bench for tools
> > Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> > car.
> >
> > Sarge
> >
> >
> >
bottom sockets on different fuses/breakers. That way I can run 2 power
tools off the one plug-in without worrying about blowing breakers. I do
this for kitchens too.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
>
> You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
> 'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
> apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
> to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
> outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
> building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
> In my area it is six per circuit.
>
> Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
> slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
> breaker panel and used up 30.
>
> Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
> to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
>
> Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
> walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
> tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
> garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
> white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
> brighten the shop.
>
> A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
> added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
> filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
> before you pour the floor.
>
> Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
> properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
> 100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
> our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
> near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
> will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
>
> Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
> compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
> connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
> connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
> somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
> drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
>
> If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
> eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
> a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
>
> Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
> available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
>
> Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
> dealt with both these companies in the past.
>
> For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
> do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
> copy as you will be referring to it often.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
> news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> > etc...
> > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> > leave out?
> > Any ideas are appreciated!"
> >
> > A bathroom:
> > A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> > throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> > climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> > out
> > of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> > destroying your home.
> > Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> > Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> > by
> > just pulling the hose down.
> > Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> > A good work bench for tools
> > Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> > car.
> >
> > Sarge
> >
> >
> >
09-21-2005, 11:54 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
One thing I prefer to do with each power outlet is to make the top and
bottom sockets on different fuses/breakers. That way I can run 2 power
tools off the one plug-in without worrying about blowing breakers. I do
this for kitchens too.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
>
> You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
> 'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
> apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
> to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
> outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
> building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
> In my area it is six per circuit.
>
> Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
> slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
> breaker panel and used up 30.
>
> Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
> to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
>
> Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
> walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
> tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
> garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
> white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
> brighten the shop.
>
> A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
> added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
> filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
> before you pour the floor.
>
> Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
> properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
> 100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
> our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
> near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
> will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
>
> Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
> compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
> connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
> connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
> somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
> drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
>
> If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
> eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
> a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
>
> Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
> available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
>
> Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
> dealt with both these companies in the past.
>
> For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
> do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
> copy as you will be referring to it often.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
> news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> > etc...
> > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> > leave out?
> > Any ideas are appreciated!"
> >
> > A bathroom:
> > A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> > throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> > climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> > out
> > of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> > destroying your home.
> > Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> > Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> > by
> > just pulling the hose down.
> > Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> > A good work bench for tools
> > Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> > car.
> >
> > Sarge
> >
> >
> >
bottom sockets on different fuses/breakers. That way I can run 2 power
tools off the one plug-in without worrying about blowing breakers. I do
this for kitchens too.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
>
> You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
> 'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
> apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
> to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
> outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
> building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
> In my area it is six per circuit.
>
> Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
> slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
> breaker panel and used up 30.
>
> Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
> to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
>
> Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
> walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
> tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
> garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
> white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
> brighten the shop.
>
> A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
> added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
> filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
> before you pour the floor.
>
> Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
> properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
> 100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
> our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
> near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
> will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
>
> Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
> compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
> connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
> connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
> somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
> drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
>
> If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
> eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
> a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
>
> Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
> available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
>
> Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
> dealt with both these companies in the past.
>
> For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
> do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
> copy as you will be referring to it often.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
> news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> > etc...
> > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> > leave out?
> > Any ideas are appreciated!"
> >
> > A bathroom:
> > A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> > throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> > climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> > out
> > of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> > destroying your home.
> > Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> > Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> > by
> > just pulling the hose down.
> > Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> > A good work bench for tools
> > Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> > car.
> >
> > Sarge
> >
> >
> >
09-21-2005, 11:54 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Garage Ideas
One thing I prefer to do with each power outlet is to make the top and
bottom sockets on different fuses/breakers. That way I can run 2 power
tools off the one plug-in without worrying about blowing breakers. I do
this for kitchens too.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
>
> You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
> 'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
> apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
> to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
> outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
> building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
> In my area it is six per circuit.
>
> Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
> slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
> breaker panel and used up 30.
>
> Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
> to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
>
> Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
> walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
> tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
> garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
> white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
> brighten the shop.
>
> A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
> added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
> filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
> before you pour the floor.
>
> Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
> properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
> 100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
> our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
> near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
> will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
>
> Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
> compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
> connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
> connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
> somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
> drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
>
> If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
> eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
> a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
>
> Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
> available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
>
> Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
> dealt with both these companies in the past.
>
> For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
> do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
> copy as you will be referring to it often.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
> news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> > etc...
> > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> > leave out?
> > Any ideas are appreciated!"
> >
> > A bathroom:
> > A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> > throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> > climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> > out
> > of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> > destroying your home.
> > Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> > Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> > by
> > just pulling the hose down.
> > Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> > A good work bench for tools
> > Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> > car.
> >
> > Sarge
> >
> >
> >
bottom sockets on different fuses/breakers. That way I can run 2 power
tools off the one plug-in without worrying about blowing breakers. I do
this for kitchens too.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> You have gotten a lot of good suggestions. My opinion FWIW..
>
> You can never have enough electric outlets (120v and 220v) and lighting. Get
> 'commercial' grade fluorescent fixtures. They will cost an additional $10
> apiece but you get real ballasts and an extra 20-25% light output. Be sure
> to 'ground fault' all the 120v outlets. You only need a GFI in the 1st
> outlet in the electric run and it will cover the rest. Call your local
> building department to see how many outlets you can have after the first.
> In my area it is six per circuit.
>
> Get the largest circuit panel you can a you can never have enough empty
> slots. I just upgraded my parents 4 circuit fuse box to a 40 circuit
> breaker panel and used up 30.
>
> Work benches are easily built out of common materials. Go out of your way
> to make then sturdy as you will regularly be abusing them.
>
> Secure wall storage is easily built, extremely easy if you don't drywall the
> walls but easy none the less. Anyone can install drywall with common
> tools... it does take a bit of experience to do the finish work but most
> garages are limited to the first tape stage. Paint the walls with gloss
> white paint. The gloss will make it easy to maintain and the white will
> brighten the shop.
>
> A half bath would be nice and your bride would probably appreciate if you
> added a freestanding shower unit so you aren't tracking the typical Jeep
> filth into 'her' house. To save some cash just rough in the 2" drain lines
> before you pour the floor.
>
> Concerning the floor you want a steel trowel finish and after the cement has
> properly 'aged' coat it with epoxy floor paint. It will cost about $25 per
> 100 sq ft but is well worth it as it is indestructible. The epoxy floor of
> our local firehouse was done in 1963 and with the exception of some fading
> near the glass doors is in excellent condition. Pick a lighter color. It
> will show more dirt but will brighten the garage.
>
> Before you install the walls and ceiling you can run piping for your
> compressor. Copper water pipe is plenty strong and you can sweat the
> connection together easily and then convert to NPT fittings and quick
> connects. As for compressors the larger the better and you can tuck it away
> somewhere so you can insulate against the sound. You can extend the tank
> drain petcock to a convenient spot like just above the sink or floor drain.
>
> If you are really ambitious you can build yourself a mini grease pit to
> eliminate much of the need for jacks and safety stands. You can build it so
> a sturdy lumber floor can be installed when not needed.
>
> Bill's idea of a lift is a good idea. In addition to his link they are also
> available from harbor freight starting as low as $960 (www.harborfreight.com
>
> Homier (http://www.homier.com/default.asp) is another good source. I have
> dealt with both these companies in the past.
>
> For additional ideas go to your local library and peruse their selection of
> do-it-yourself books. When you find one that fits your needs go and buy a
> copy as you will be referring to it often.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Sarge" <licker@lickersacademy.edu> wrote in message
> news:dgr2pu0i9p@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Pi-Eyed Piper wrote: "So FINALLY I'm getting a garage. 24X26 Heated,
> > etc...
> > Can anyone give me some good ideas for building? Anything I should add on,
> > leave out?
> > Any ideas are appreciated!"
> >
> > A bathroom:
> > A small kitchen area with a stove: This is works well if you decide to
> > throw a party, you can move your vehicles outside and entertain inside the
> > climate controll garage. Food can be warmed and served. Keeps the mess
> > out
> > of your home and everyone can mingle ande have a good time without
> > destroying your home.
> > Sealed floor: makes clean easier.
> > Run pipe in ceiling for hanging Air reels so you can use pneumatic tools
> > by
> > just pulling the hose down.
> > Install AC cord reels from the ceiling also.
> > A good work bench for tools
> > Of course you got to have a good stereo to jam to while working on your
> > car.
> >
> > Sarge
> >
> >
> >
