It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.

tw

Dave Milne wrote:
> Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value at
> all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value well.
> UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school run.
> And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> think.
>
> Dave
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive it
>>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
>
> This
>
>>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import duties
>>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar deal,
>>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
>
> did
>
>>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have been
>>owned by a diplomat.
>>
>>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
>>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
>>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
>>Cherokees.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
>>>
>>>Dave

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

 

It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.

tw

Dave Milne wrote:
> Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value at
> all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value well.
> UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school run.
> And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> think.
>
> Dave
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive it
>>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
>
> This
>
>>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import duties
>>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar deal,
>>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
>
> did
>
>>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have been
>>owned by a diplomat.
>>
>>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
>>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
>>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
>>Cherokees.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
>>>
>>>Dave

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

 

It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.

tw

Dave Milne wrote:
> Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value at
> all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value well.
> UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school run.
> And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> think.
>
> Dave
>
> "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive it
>>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
>
> This
>
>>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import duties
>>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar deal,
>>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
>
> did
>
>>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have been
>>owned by a diplomat.
>>
>>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
>>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
>>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
>>Cherokees.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
>>
>>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
>>>
>>>Dave

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

 

We should clearly trade Defenders for Dodge Rams then and both make a crazy
profit.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:Ye1xh.40933$WI6.4926@trnddc04...
> It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
> value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
> should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
> here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
> lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
> announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
> for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.
>
> tw
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value
at
> > all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value
well.
> > UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> > farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school
run.
> > And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> > think.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> > news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive
it
> >>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
> >
> > This
> >
> >>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import
duties
> >>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar
deal,
> >>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
> >
> > did
> >
> >>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have
been
> >>owned by a diplomat.
> >>
> >>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
> >>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
> >>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
> >>Cherokees.
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> >>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
> >>
> >>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

 

We should clearly trade Defenders for Dodge Rams then and both make a crazy
profit.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:Ye1xh.40933$WI6.4926@trnddc04...
> It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
> value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
> should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
> here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
> lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
> announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
> for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.
>
> tw
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value
at
> > all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value
well.
> > UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> > farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school
run.
> > And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> > think.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> > news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive
it
> >>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
> >
> > This
> >
> >>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import
duties
> >>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar
deal,
> >>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
> >
> > did
> >
> >>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have
been
> >>owned by a diplomat.
> >>
> >>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
> >>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
> >>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
> >>Cherokees.
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> >>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
> >>
> >>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

 

We should clearly trade Defenders for Dodge Rams then and both make a crazy
profit.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:Ye1xh.40933$WI6.4926@trnddc04...
> It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
> value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
> should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
> here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
> lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
> announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
> for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.
>
> tw
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value
at
> > all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value
well.
> > UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> > farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school
run.
> > And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> > think.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> > news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive
it
> >>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
> >
> > This
> >
> >>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import
duties
> >>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar
deal,
> >>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
> >
> > did
> >
> >>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have
been
> >>owned by a diplomat.
> >>
> >>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
> >>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
> >>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
> >>Cherokees.
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> >>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
> >>
> >>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

 

We should clearly trade Defenders for Dodge Rams then and both make a crazy
profit.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:Ye1xh.40933$WI6.4926@trnddc04...
> It's kind of the same over here. The Wranglers do seem to hold their
> value pretty well in comparison...Cherokees and GCs, not so well. You
> should see what the insane prices are on the Defender 90s that we got
> here between 1994-1997. These are STILL going for over $30-40k used with
> lots of miles, about what they stickered for and more. Once they
> announced there would be no 1998s, the remaining 1997s instantly went
> for $10k over sticker, as did the used ones. Crazy.
>
> tw
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > Yes, lots of Grand Cherokees and Cherokees which don't hold their value
at
> > all well. Wranglers on the other hand are rare and do hold their value
well.
> > UK trucks are mainly Land Rover Defenders (used by utility people and
> > farmers), Discos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols for the school
run.
> > And a few Isuzu Troopers - my Dad has one and it is a nice solid truck I
> > think.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
> > news:vuSdnUx6makBUCXYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Volvo has a deal where Americans can go to Europe, buy a new car, drive
it
> >>around a while and then have it shipped to the U.S. as a used vehicle.
> >
> > This
> >
> >>is supposed to save a lot on new vehicle state sales tax and import
duties
> >>in the U.S. I don't know if any American manufacturer has a similar
deal,
> >>or if our cars even meet your various emissions and safety standards. I
> >
> > did
> >
> >>see a Ford Excursion on the streets of Vitoria, ES, but it could have
been
> >>owned by a diplomat.
> >>
> >>A Ford Explorer is a run of the mill, ordinary, everyday vehicle around
> >>here. I imagine that in Europe it would be somewhat special. There did
> >>seem to be an awful lot of Jeeps though, many of them Grand Cherokees or
> >>Cherokees.
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> >>news:IUZth.139854$QY6.34404@fe1.news.blueyonder. co.uk...
> >>
> >>>remember they still cost us more than you pay.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________