OT: Firearms Manufacturer Question
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ΤΏΤ at
patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
> I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
>
> Patrick
> ΤΏΤ
I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
cartridge.
-jeff
patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
> I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
>
> Patrick
> ΤΏΤ
I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
cartridge.
-jeff
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ΤΏΤ at
patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
> I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
>
> Patrick
> ΤΏΤ
I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
cartridge.
-jeff
patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
> I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
>
> Patrick
> ΤΏΤ
I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
cartridge.
-jeff
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ΤΏΤ at
patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
> I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
>
> Patrick
> ΤΏΤ
I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
cartridge.
-jeff
patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
> I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
>
> Patrick
> ΤΏΤ
I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
cartridge.
-jeff
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:54:16 UTC Jeff Olsen <handywired@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:54:16 UTC Jeff Olsen <handywired@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:54:16 UTC Jeff Olsen <handywired@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:54:16 UTC Jeff Olsen <handywired@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> in article gKLqe.1189$eL5.585@fe04.lga, Patrick ¨ at
> patrick.nospam@cityofvarnell.com wrote on 6/11/05 5:55 PM:
>
> > I qualified for the .223 round AR-15 as well as
> > the M-16 and the .308 M-14 today. I can get the Bushmaster for around 800.
> > Forgot to mention that it will be an all purpose weapon for searching wooded
> > areas, and fields. I qualified with the 14.5 inch barrel with shots made
> > from the 100 yard line without a scope. I feel confortable using the AR.
> > The M-14 got heavy at the end which was at the 15 yard line, but still did
> > good with it. Compared to the M-14, the AR felt like a featherweight.
> >
> > Patrick
> > ¨
>
> I wish you could try an M1a Bush Rifle (no longer sold by Springfield Arms,
> but the Scout Squad is the same thing basically). It is much lighter and
> handier than a full-size M14. On the other hand, for entry work the short
> AR is hard to beat, and against people ONLY the .223 is an effective
> cartridge.
LOL. Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
was against some loose Bison a few weeks back. But that's a question
of the right tool, etc. In a lot of ways, the old .45 Thompson is
still pretty hard to beat.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
> was against some loose Bison a few weeks back.
i watched them shoot a bison down on the crow reservation with a 300 magnum.
he was standing there eating and you could see the explosion in his shoulder
when it hit. instead of falling over, the bison reached down for another
bite. they repeated the process and he continued to eat. it took 3 shots
before he fell over and even then he continued to chew for a second before
dying.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NG9Be9IHrMtE@anon.none.net...
> Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
> was against some loose Bison a few weeks back.
i watched them shoot a bison down on the crow reservation with a 300 magnum.
he was standing there eating and you could see the explosion in his shoulder
when it hit. instead of falling over, the bison reached down for another
bite. they repeated the process and he continued to eat. it took 3 shots
before he fell over and even then he continued to chew for a second before
dying.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
> was against some loose Bison a few weeks back.
i watched them shoot a bison down on the crow reservation with a 300 magnum.
he was standing there eating and you could see the explosion in his shoulder
when it hit. instead of falling over, the bison reached down for another
bite. they repeated the process and he continued to eat. it took 3 shots
before he fell over and even then he continued to chew for a second before
dying.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NG9Be9IHrMtE@anon.none.net...
> Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
> was against some loose Bison a few weeks back.
i watched them shoot a bison down on the crow reservation with a 300 magnum.
he was standing there eating and you could see the explosion in his shoulder
when it hit. instead of falling over, the bison reached down for another
bite. they repeated the process and he continued to eat. it took 3 shots
before he fell over and even then he continued to chew for a second before
dying.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: Firearms Manufacturer Question
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
> was against some loose Bison a few weeks back.
i watched them shoot a bison down on the crow reservation with a 300 magnum.
he was standing there eating and you could see the explosion in his shoulder
when it hit. instead of falling over, the bison reached down for another
bite. they repeated the process and he continued to eat. it took 3 shots
before he fell over and even then he continued to chew for a second before
dying.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NG9Be9IHrMtE@anon.none.net...
> Check with the Colorado Springs PD about how effective the .223
> was against some loose Bison a few weeks back.
i watched them shoot a bison down on the crow reservation with a 300 magnum.
he was standing there eating and you could see the explosion in his shoulder
when it hit. instead of falling over, the bison reached down for another
bite. they repeated the process and he continued to eat. it took 3 shots
before he fell over and even then he continued to chew for a second before
dying.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com