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Re: Diesels are the way to go
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's. After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend... "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05... >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 >> as well. > > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it > was. > >> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them. > > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing > still :-) > >> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink. >>> >>> Just thought I'd share... >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> Matt Macchiarolo >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net >>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's. After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend... "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05... >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 >> as well. > > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it > was. > >> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them. > > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing > still :-) > >> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink. >>> >>> Just thought I'd share... >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> Matt Macchiarolo >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net >>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's. After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend... "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05... >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 >> as well. > > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it > was. > >> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them. > > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing > still :-) > >> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink. >>> >>> Just thought I'd share... >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> Matt Macchiarolo >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net >>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
Encouraging
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com... > We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from > Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like > driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
Encouraging
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com... > We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from > Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like > driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
Encouraging
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com... > We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from > Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like > driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
Encouraging
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com... > We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from > Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like > driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need in Silverton. Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.) Earle "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing > them with the Mercedes V-6's. > > After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the > four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the > registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend... > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05... > >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually > >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around > >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure > >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 > >> as well. > > > > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in > > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder > > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. > > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you > > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number > > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing > > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the > > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it > > was. > > > >> > >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said > >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans > >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them. > > > > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the > > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car > > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was > > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing > > still :-) > > > >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting > >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their > >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but > >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and > >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has > >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time > >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great > >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the > >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about > >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was > >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a > >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once > >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink. > >>> > >>> Just thought I'd share... > >>> > >>> -- > >>> --- > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need in Silverton. Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.) Earle "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing > them with the Mercedes V-6's. > > After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the > four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the > registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend... > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05... > >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually > >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around > >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure > >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 > >> as well. > > > > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in > > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder > > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. > > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you > > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number > > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing > > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the > > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it > > was. > > > >> > >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said > >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans > >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them. > > > > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the > > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car > > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was > > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing > > still :-) > > > >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting > >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their > >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but > >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and > >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has > >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time > >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great > >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the > >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about > >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was > >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a > >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once > >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink. > >>> > >>> Just thought I'd share... > >>> > >>> -- > >>> --- > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Diesels are the way to go
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need in Silverton. Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.) Earle "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing > them with the Mercedes V-6's. > > After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the > four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the > registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend... > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05... > >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually > >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around > >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure > >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 > >> as well. > > > > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in > > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder > > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. > > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you > > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number > > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing > > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the > > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it > > was. > > > >> > >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said > >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans > >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them. > > > > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the > > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car > > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was > > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing > > still :-) > > > >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting > >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their > >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but > >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and > >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has > >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time > >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great > >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the > >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about > >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was > >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a > >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once > >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink. > >>> > >>> Just thought I'd share... > >>> > >>> -- > >>> --- > >>> Matt Macchiarolo > >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > |
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