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Matt Macchiarolo 04-15-2007 10:07 AM

OT: Diesels are the way to go
 
Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their diesel
v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the manual
was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern diesel
technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it topped
out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder gas
engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

--
---
Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net




Stupendous Man 04-15-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
> And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>


I'll bet Bill smelled it from his home.
"Eurovans" have been around for many years by many makers, along with cool
small utility vehicles like this
http://www.stampshows.com/ascension-pm.jpg

--
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Defender of Liberty, Advocate of Justice



Stupendous Man 04-15-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
> And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>


I'll bet Bill smelled it from his home.
"Eurovans" have been around for many years by many makers, along with cool
small utility vehicles like this
http://www.stampshows.com/ascension-pm.jpg

--
Stupendous Man
Defender of Liberty, Advocate of Justice



Stupendous Man 04-15-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
> And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>


I'll bet Bill smelled it from his home.
"Eurovans" have been around for many years by many makers, along with cool
small utility vehicles like this
http://www.stampshows.com/ascension-pm.jpg

--
Stupendous Man
Defender of Liberty, Advocate of Justice



Stupendous Man 04-15-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
> And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>


I'll bet Bill smelled it from his home.
"Eurovans" have been around for many years by many makers, along with cool
small utility vehicles like this
http://www.stampshows.com/ascension-pm.jpg

--
Stupendous Man
Defender of Liberty, Advocate of Justice



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
Forest?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

diesel
> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

manual
> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

diesel
> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

topped
> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

gas
> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
Forest?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

diesel
> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

manual
> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

diesel
> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

topped
> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

gas
> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
Forest?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

diesel
> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

manual
> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

diesel
> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

topped
> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

gas
> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
Forest?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

diesel
> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

manual
> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

diesel
> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

topped
> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

gas
> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>




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Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4623f3d4$0$16307$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
> Forest?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

> diesel
>> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
>> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

> manual
>> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced
>> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

> diesel
>> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

> topped
>> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
>> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
>> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
>> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

> gas
>> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
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>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4623f3d4$0$16307$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
> Forest?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

> diesel
>> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
>> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

> manual
>> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced
>> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

> diesel
>> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

> topped
>> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
>> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
>> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
>> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

> gas
>> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
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>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4623f3d4$0$16307$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
> Forest?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

> diesel
>> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
>> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

> manual
>> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced
>> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

> diesel
>> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

> topped
>> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
>> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
>> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
>> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

> gas
>> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4623f3d4$0$16307$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
> Forest?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their

> diesel
>> v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
>> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the

> manual
>> was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced
>> that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern

> diesel
>> technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it

> topped
>> out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
>> 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
>> autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
>> though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder

> gas
>> engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
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>




Jeff Strickland 04-16-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually badge
the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around Europe. The
330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of the
configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as well.

2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that, I
took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series. They
kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.






"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>



Jeff Strickland 04-16-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually badge
the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around Europe. The
330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of the
configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as well.

2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that, I
took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series. They
kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.






"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>



Jeff Strickland 04-16-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually badge
the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around Europe. The
330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of the
configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as well.

2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that, I
took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series. They
kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.






"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>



Jeff Strickland 04-16-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually badge
the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around Europe. The
330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of the
configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as well.

2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that, I
took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series. They
kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.






"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hi all,
>
> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
> sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> --
> ---
> Matt Macchiarolo
> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>
>
>



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>
>

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>
>

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>
>

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>
>

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.


I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.


This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.


I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.


This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.


I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.


This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
> the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
> well.


I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

>
> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
> I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
> They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.


This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
>> manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
>> convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
>> modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
>> mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
>> quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
>> sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
>> whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>
>> Just thought I'd share...
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Matt Macchiarolo
>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>
>>
>>

>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>

> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>

> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>

> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:462405c9$0$16277$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
> Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
> trees?
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:PoadnQqgGMB-lbnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:
>>
>>

> http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's.

After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the
four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend...

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>> as well.

>
> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number
> of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing
> under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the
> plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it
> was.
>
>>
>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

>
> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
> an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> still :-)
>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has
>>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time
>>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's.

After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the
four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend...

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>> as well.

>
> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number
> of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing
> under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the
> plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it
> was.
>
>>
>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

>
> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
> an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> still :-)
>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has
>>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time
>>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's.

After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the
four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend...

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>> as well.

>
> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number
> of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing
> under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the
> plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it
> was.
>
>>
>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

>
> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
> an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> still :-)
>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has
>>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time
>>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 04-16-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's.

After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the
four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend...

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
>> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
>> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
>> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
>> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
>> as well.

>
> I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
> Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
> Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number
> of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing
> under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the
> plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it
> was.
>
>>
>> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
>> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
>> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

>
> This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
> that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
> an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> still :-)
>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
>>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
>>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
>>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
>>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has
>>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time
>>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
>>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
>>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
>>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
>>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
>>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
>>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share...
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Matt Macchiarolo
>>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 09:05 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Encouraging
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
> Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
> driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.




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Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Encouraging
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
> Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
> driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 09:05 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Encouraging
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
> Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
> driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-16-2007 09:05 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
Encouraging
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:UZGdnVu6OvAqirnbnZ2dnUVZ_v-tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
> Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
> driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.




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Earle Horton 04-16-2007 09:16 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of
trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western
Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I
had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were
standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just
a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting
these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need
in Silverton.

Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started
having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish
equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and
was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go
back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.)

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
> them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been

the
> four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
> registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German

friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
> >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an

I6
> >> as well.

> >
> > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars

in
> > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW

logo.
> > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the

number
> > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was

nothing
> > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking

the
> > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think

it
> > was.
> >
> >>
> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
> >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
> >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

> >
> > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every

car
> > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)

was
> > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> > still :-)
> >
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
> >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
> >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week

has
> >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big

time
> >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
> >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
> >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
> >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
> >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
> >>>
> >>> Just thought I'd share...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ---
> >>> Matt Macchiarolo
> >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 04-16-2007 09:16 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of
trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western
Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I
had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were
standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just
a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting
these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need
in Silverton.

Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started
having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish
equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and
was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go
back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.)

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
> them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been

the
> four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
> registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German

friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
> >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an

I6
> >> as well.

> >
> > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars

in
> > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW

logo.
> > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the

number
> > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was

nothing
> > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking

the
> > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think

it
> > was.
> >
> >>
> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
> >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
> >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

> >
> > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every

car
> > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)

was
> > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> > still :-)
> >
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
> >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
> >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week

has
> >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big

time
> >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
> >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
> >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
> >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
> >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
> >>>
> >>> Just thought I'd share...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ---
> >>> Matt Macchiarolo
> >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 04-16-2007 09:16 PM

Re: Diesels are the way to go
 
I rented a four cylinder Golf when I was in Spain. It was almost as peppy
as the four cylinder Renault I rented another time. There are plenty of
trees there, except in the dry central part which is a little like Western
Colorado. I could smell the Golf, but it was early morning, just after I
had rented it, and while it was warming up. The Avis guy and I were
standing right back of the rear bumper, shooting the breeze, and it was just
a faint smell you could barely detect. I would have no qualms about letting
these cars in the States, except for the block heater I would probably need
in Silverton.

Another time I was in the Bus Depot in Burgos, and a guy from LA started
having breathing difficulties. I was trying to remember the Spanish
equivalent of "911" but he just stuck his head down by the bus exhaust, and
was OK in a minute or two. (Third time I've used this story. Have to go
back soon and get another one. You old coots won't notice anyway.)

Earle

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnUwia9OJhLnbnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
> them with the Mercedes V-6's.
>
> After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been

the
> four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
> registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German

friend...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:beCdnSf6FbIajrnbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325@trnddc05...
> >> 1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
> >> badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
> >> Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
> >> of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an

I6
> >> as well.

> >
> > I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars

in
> > Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
> > diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW

logo.
> > Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
> > have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the

number
> > of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was

nothing
> > under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking

the
> > plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think

it
> > was.
> >
> >>
> >> 2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
> >> that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
> >> Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

> >
> > This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
> > performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every

car
> > that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph)

was
> > an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
> > still :-)
> >
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
> >>> friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
> >>> diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
> >>> not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
> >>> the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week

has
> >>> me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big

time
> >>> on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
> >>> acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
> >>> autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
> >>> 34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
> >>> about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
> >>> different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
> >>> did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.
> >>>
> >>> Just thought I'd share...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ---
> >>> Matt Macchiarolo
> >>> mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>





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