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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-09-2004 09:08 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Let me tell you the oil companies are Government regulated,
especially at the retail level, you've heard of the price gouging after
Florida's hurricanes, right? How else to you think they can act on those
violations.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> All of that is all well and good, but it ignores the facts that refiners
> have made a conscious effort to cut back production and storage, thereby
> limiting supply in order to raise prices.
>
> OK, maybe the conscious effort wasn't all that conscious, maybe it is
> reflective of regulatory mandates as well as mergers among the refineries
> and shippers. In any case, without any regulation otherwise, why would
> anybody sell two for a dollar when they can get away with selling one for
> two dollars? Why sell a gallon for a dollar when they can sell a half gallon
> for two dollars?
>
> In any case, don't hold your breath waiting for energy prices to fall - ANY
> energy prices. They will only go up from here.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-09-2004 09:08 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Let me tell you the oil companies are Government regulated,
especially at the retail level, you've heard of the price gouging after
Florida's hurricanes, right? How else to you think they can act on those
violations.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> All of that is all well and good, but it ignores the facts that refiners
> have made a conscious effort to cut back production and storage, thereby
> limiting supply in order to raise prices.
>
> OK, maybe the conscious effort wasn't all that conscious, maybe it is
> reflective of regulatory mandates as well as mergers among the refineries
> and shippers. In any case, without any regulation otherwise, why would
> anybody sell two for a dollar when they can get away with selling one for
> two dollars? Why sell a gallon for a dollar when they can sell a half gallon
> for two dollars?
>
> In any case, don't hold your breath waiting for energy prices to fall - ANY
> energy prices. They will only go up from here.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-09-2004 09:08 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Let me tell you the oil companies are Government regulated,
especially at the retail level, you've heard of the price gouging after
Florida's hurricanes, right? How else to you think they can act on those
violations.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> All of that is all well and good, but it ignores the facts that refiners
> have made a conscious effort to cut back production and storage, thereby
> limiting supply in order to raise prices.
>
> OK, maybe the conscious effort wasn't all that conscious, maybe it is
> reflective of regulatory mandates as well as mergers among the refineries
> and shippers. In any case, without any regulation otherwise, why would
> anybody sell two for a dollar when they can get away with selling one for
> two dollars? Why sell a gallon for a dollar when they can sell a half gallon
> for two dollars?
>
> In any case, don't hold your breath waiting for energy prices to fall - ANY
> energy prices. They will only go up from here.


Jeff Strickland 11-09-2004 09:27 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
You have a different understanding of what "government regulation" means.
Here under my rock, government regulation means that gasoline - and diesel -
would not jump in a matter of days from $1.75 to $2.50, then slide all of
the way back to $2.40 and hold steady for months. Under my rock, government
regulation would not let gas prices jump while the underlying crude prices
remained essentially flat - as was the case last April and May - while
prices on the street went through the roof. And, under my rock, government
regulation would not let prices on the street fall in a climate of rising
prices of the underlying crude, as is what we are seeing today. I bought gas
today for $2.37. Crude is over $50/barrel. I paid $2.50 in Apr/May when
crude was below $40.

I live a pretty comfortable life here under this rock, and I apparently do
not get out much. Under my rock, when government regulates things, the
prices on the street are generally reflective of the underlying costs. Not
always, but generally. Another thing with government regulation is, it
generally costs 4 times as much and works half as good, where "it" is
whatever the government happens to be regulating.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4191780E.854C0AD1@cox.net...
> Let me tell you the oil companies are Government regulated,
> especially at the retail level, you've heard of the price gouging after
> Florida's hurricanes, right? How else to you think they can act on those
> violations.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > All of that is all well and good, but it ignores the facts that refiners
> > have made a conscious effort to cut back production and storage, thereby
> > limiting supply in order to raise prices.
> >
> > OK, maybe the conscious effort wasn't all that conscious, maybe it is
> > reflective of regulatory mandates as well as mergers among the

refineries
> > and shippers. In any case, without any regulation otherwise, why would
> > anybody sell two for a dollar when they can get away with selling one

for
> > two dollars? Why sell a gallon for a dollar when they can sell a half

gallon
> > for two dollars?
> >
> > In any case, don't hold your breath waiting for energy prices to fall -

ANY
> > energy prices. They will only go up from here.




Jeff Strickland 11-09-2004 09:27 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
You have a different understanding of what "government regulation" means.
Here under my rock, government regulation means that gasoline - and diesel -
would not jump in a matter of days from $1.75 to $2.50, then slide all of
the way back to $2.40 and hold steady for months. Under my rock, government
regulation would not let gas prices jump while the underlying crude prices
remained essentially flat - as was the case last April and May - while
prices on the street went through the roof. And, under my rock, government
regulation would not let prices on the street fall in a climate of rising
prices of the underlying crude, as is what we are seeing today. I bought gas
today for $2.37. Crude is over $50/barrel. I paid $2.50 in Apr/May when
crude was below $40.

I live a pretty comfortable life here under this rock, and I apparently do
not get out much. Under my rock, when government regulates things, the
prices on the street are generally reflective of the underlying costs. Not
always, but generally. Another thing with government regulation is, it
generally costs 4 times as much and works half as good, where "it" is
whatever the government happens to be regulating.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4191780E.854C0AD1@cox.net...
> Let me tell you the oil companies are Government regulated,
> especially at the retail level, you've heard of the price gouging after
> Florida's hurricanes, right? How else to you think they can act on those
> violations.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > All of that is all well and good, but it ignores the facts that refiners
> > have made a conscious effort to cut back production and storage, thereby
> > limiting supply in order to raise prices.
> >
> > OK, maybe the conscious effort wasn't all that conscious, maybe it is
> > reflective of regulatory mandates as well as mergers among the

refineries
> > and shippers. In any case, without any regulation otherwise, why would
> > anybody sell two for a dollar when they can get away with selling one

for
> > two dollars? Why sell a gallon for a dollar when they can sell a half

gallon
> > for two dollars?
> >
> > In any case, don't hold your breath waiting for energy prices to fall -

ANY
> > energy prices. They will only go up from here.




Jeff Strickland 11-09-2004 09:27 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
You have a different understanding of what "government regulation" means.
Here under my rock, government regulation means that gasoline - and diesel -
would not jump in a matter of days from $1.75 to $2.50, then slide all of
the way back to $2.40 and hold steady for months. Under my rock, government
regulation would not let gas prices jump while the underlying crude prices
remained essentially flat - as was the case last April and May - while
prices on the street went through the roof. And, under my rock, government
regulation would not let prices on the street fall in a climate of rising
prices of the underlying crude, as is what we are seeing today. I bought gas
today for $2.37. Crude is over $50/barrel. I paid $2.50 in Apr/May when
crude was below $40.

I live a pretty comfortable life here under this rock, and I apparently do
not get out much. Under my rock, when government regulates things, the
prices on the street are generally reflective of the underlying costs. Not
always, but generally. Another thing with government regulation is, it
generally costs 4 times as much and works half as good, where "it" is
whatever the government happens to be regulating.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4191780E.854C0AD1@cox.net...
> Let me tell you the oil companies are Government regulated,
> especially at the retail level, you've heard of the price gouging after
> Florida's hurricanes, right? How else to you think they can act on those
> violations.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > All of that is all well and good, but it ignores the facts that refiners
> > have made a conscious effort to cut back production and storage, thereby
> > limiting supply in order to raise prices.
> >
> > OK, maybe the conscious effort wasn't all that conscious, maybe it is
> > reflective of regulatory mandates as well as mergers among the

refineries
> > and shippers. In any case, without any regulation otherwise, why would
> > anybody sell two for a dollar when they can get away with selling one

for
> > two dollars? Why sell a gallon for a dollar when they can sell a half

gallon
> > for two dollars?
> >
> > In any case, don't hold your breath waiting for energy prices to fall -

ANY
> > energy prices. They will only go up from here.




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-09-2004 09:53 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Jeff, they are selling a barrel of crude for forty eight bucks as of
today. I guess you don't know the size of a barrel, it's forty eight
gallons. Do you think they ship it over here for free. You're acting
like a liberal whom thinks the oil industry should refined it for
nothing. Geez, just look at the prices of anything else in your grocery
store. Name something you may buy for less.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You have a different understanding of what "government regulation" means.
> Here under my rock, government regulation means that gasoline - and diesel -
> would not jump in a matter of days from $1.75 to $2.50, then slide all of
> the way back to $2.40 and hold steady for months. Under my rock, government
> regulation would not let gas prices jump while the underlying crude prices
> remained essentially flat - as was the case last April and May - while
> prices on the street went through the roof. And, under my rock, government
> regulation would not let prices on the street fall in a climate of rising
> prices of the underlying crude, as is what we are seeing today. I bought gas
> today for $2.37. Crude is over $50/barrel. I paid $2.50 in Apr/May when
> crude was below $40.
>
> I live a pretty comfortable life here under this rock, and I apparently do
> not get out much. Under my rock, when government regulates things, the
> prices on the street are generally reflective of the underlying costs. Not
> always, but generally. Another thing with government regulation is, it
> generally costs 4 times as much and works half as good, where "it" is
> whatever the government happens to be regulating.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-09-2004 09:53 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Jeff, they are selling a barrel of crude for forty eight bucks as of
today. I guess you don't know the size of a barrel, it's forty eight
gallons. Do you think they ship it over here for free. You're acting
like a liberal whom thinks the oil industry should refined it for
nothing. Geez, just look at the prices of anything else in your grocery
store. Name something you may buy for less.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You have a different understanding of what "government regulation" means.
> Here under my rock, government regulation means that gasoline - and diesel -
> would not jump in a matter of days from $1.75 to $2.50, then slide all of
> the way back to $2.40 and hold steady for months. Under my rock, government
> regulation would not let gas prices jump while the underlying crude prices
> remained essentially flat - as was the case last April and May - while
> prices on the street went through the roof. And, under my rock, government
> regulation would not let prices on the street fall in a climate of rising
> prices of the underlying crude, as is what we are seeing today. I bought gas
> today for $2.37. Crude is over $50/barrel. I paid $2.50 in Apr/May when
> crude was below $40.
>
> I live a pretty comfortable life here under this rock, and I apparently do
> not get out much. Under my rock, when government regulates things, the
> prices on the street are generally reflective of the underlying costs. Not
> always, but generally. Another thing with government regulation is, it
> generally costs 4 times as much and works half as good, where "it" is
> whatever the government happens to be regulating.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-09-2004 09:53 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Jeff, they are selling a barrel of crude for forty eight bucks as of
today. I guess you don't know the size of a barrel, it's forty eight
gallons. Do you think they ship it over here for free. You're acting
like a liberal whom thinks the oil industry should refined it for
nothing. Geez, just look at the prices of anything else in your grocery
store. Name something you may buy for less.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You have a different understanding of what "government regulation" means.
> Here under my rock, government regulation means that gasoline - and diesel -
> would not jump in a matter of days from $1.75 to $2.50, then slide all of
> the way back to $2.40 and hold steady for months. Under my rock, government
> regulation would not let gas prices jump while the underlying crude prices
> remained essentially flat - as was the case last April and May - while
> prices on the street went through the roof. And, under my rock, government
> regulation would not let prices on the street fall in a climate of rising
> prices of the underlying crude, as is what we are seeing today. I bought gas
> today for $2.37. Crude is over $50/barrel. I paid $2.50 in Apr/May when
> crude was below $40.
>
> I live a pretty comfortable life here under this rock, and I apparently do
> not get out much. Under my rock, when government regulates things, the
> prices on the street are generally reflective of the underlying costs. Not
> always, but generally. Another thing with government regulation is, it
> generally costs 4 times as much and works half as good, where "it" is
> whatever the government happens to be regulating.


Wblane 11-09-2004 10:09 PM

Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
 
Bill is being really naive here. Ever heard of OPEC Bill? The WHOLE purpose of
OPEC Is to engage in PRICE-FIXING. They're not an organization working for the
good of humanity or to provide quality petro-products at fair-market values.
They're an organization dedicated to raising the price of crude oil and keeping
it as high as possible for as long as possible. Your buddy Bush is probably
good friends w/all of them too.

>Jeff, they are selling a barrel of crude for forty eight bucks as of
>today. I guess you don't know the size of a barrel, it's forty eight
>gallons. Do you think they ship it over here for free. You're acting
>like a liberal whom thinks the oil industry should refined it for
>nothing. Geez, just look at the prices of anything else in your grocery
>store. Name something you may buy for less.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)


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