OT: ATV Rage
09-17-2006, 10:45 AM
#41
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
A noise activated land mine would be nice ! Could embed them in the roads to
take out the ricers as well.
Dave
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> one strand, approx 3.5 feet up. <wicked evil grin>
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:18:00 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
> >>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
> >>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
> >>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
> >>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
> >>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
> >>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450B8766.A42D3EB5@***.net...
> >>> I bet next time he'll be armed. He must be one of those
> >>liberals
> >>> from Washington state, that just moved in.
> >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>
> >>> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Not really OT, but no Jeeps involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Silverton man victim of ATV rage. County struggles to deal
> >>with backcountry drivers."
> >>> > Broken leg, trespassers on ATVs, nasty stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >><http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...tion.asp?artic
> >>le_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060914_3.htm>
> >>> >
> >>> > We have practically no law enforcement here, but people do get
> >>fed
> >>> > up when this sort of thing happens. The town was considering
> >>an
> >>> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> >>but I
> >>> > don't know what will happen to that now. Personally, I would
> >>like
> >>> > to see license plates on anything that uses our county roads.
> >>> >
> >>> > Play safe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Earle
> >>
take out the ricers as well.
Dave
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ug6pg296oddtdnmc8hu5joa9b6s7l7b0af@4ax.com...
> one strand, approx 3.5 feet up. <wicked evil grin>
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:18:00 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
> >>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
> >>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
> >>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
> >>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
> >>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
> >>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450B8766.A42D3EB5@***.net...
> >>> I bet next time he'll be armed. He must be one of those
> >>liberals
> >>> from Washington state, that just moved in.
> >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>
> >>> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Not really OT, but no Jeeps involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Silverton man victim of ATV rage. County struggles to deal
> >>with backcountry drivers."
> >>> > Broken leg, trespassers on ATVs, nasty stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >><http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...tion.asp?artic
> >>le_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060914_3.htm>
> >>> >
> >>> > We have practically no law enforcement here, but people do get
> >>fed
> >>> > up when this sort of thing happens. The town was considering
> >>an
> >>> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> >>but I
> >>> > don't know what will happen to that now. Personally, I would
> >>like
> >>> > to see license plates on anything that uses our county roads.
> >>> >
> >>> > Play safe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Earle
> >>
09-17-2006, 10:45 AM
#42
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
A noise activated land mine would be nice ! Could embed them in the roads to
take out the ricers as well.
Dave
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ug6pg296oddtdnmc8hu5joa9b6s7l7b0af@4ax.com...
> one strand, approx 3.5 feet up. <wicked evil grin>
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:18:00 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
> >>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
> >>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
> >>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
> >>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
> >>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
> >>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450B8766.A42D3EB5@***.net...
> >>> I bet next time he'll be armed. He must be one of those
> >>liberals
> >>> from Washington state, that just moved in.
> >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>
> >>> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Not really OT, but no Jeeps involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Silverton man victim of ATV rage. County struggles to deal
> >>with backcountry drivers."
> >>> > Broken leg, trespassers on ATVs, nasty stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >><http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...tion.asp?artic
> >>le_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060914_3.htm>
> >>> >
> >>> > We have practically no law enforcement here, but people do get
> >>fed
> >>> > up when this sort of thing happens. The town was considering
> >>an
> >>> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> >>but I
> >>> > don't know what will happen to that now. Personally, I would
> >>like
> >>> > to see license plates on anything that uses our county roads.
> >>> >
> >>> > Play safe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Earle
> >>
take out the ricers as well.
Dave
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ug6pg296oddtdnmc8hu5joa9b6s7l7b0af@4ax.com...
> one strand, approx 3.5 feet up. <wicked evil grin>
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:18:00 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
> >>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
> >>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
> >>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
> >>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
> >>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
> >>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450B8766.A42D3EB5@***.net...
> >>> I bet next time he'll be armed. He must be one of those
> >>liberals
> >>> from Washington state, that just moved in.
> >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>
> >>> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Not really OT, but no Jeeps involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Silverton man victim of ATV rage. County struggles to deal
> >>with backcountry drivers."
> >>> > Broken leg, trespassers on ATVs, nasty stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >><http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...tion.asp?artic
> >>le_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060914_3.htm>
> >>> >
> >>> > We have practically no law enforcement here, but people do get
> >>fed
> >>> > up when this sort of thing happens. The town was considering
> >>an
> >>> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> >>but I
> >>> > don't know what will happen to that now. Personally, I would
> >>like
> >>> > to see license plates on anything that uses our county roads.
> >>> >
> >>> > Play safe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Earle
> >>
09-17-2006, 10:45 AM
#43
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
A noise activated land mine would be nice ! Could embed them in the roads to
take out the ricers as well.
Dave
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ug6pg296oddtdnmc8hu5joa9b6s7l7b0af@4ax.com...
> one strand, approx 3.5 feet up. <wicked evil grin>
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:18:00 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
> >>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
> >>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
> >>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
> >>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
> >>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
> >>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450B8766.A42D3EB5@***.net...
> >>> I bet next time he'll be armed. He must be one of those
> >>liberals
> >>> from Washington state, that just moved in.
> >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>
> >>> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Not really OT, but no Jeeps involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Silverton man victim of ATV rage. County struggles to deal
> >>with backcountry drivers."
> >>> > Broken leg, trespassers on ATVs, nasty stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >><http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...tion.asp?artic
> >>le_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060914_3.htm>
> >>> >
> >>> > We have practically no law enforcement here, but people do get
> >>fed
> >>> > up when this sort of thing happens. The town was considering
> >>an
> >>> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> >>but I
> >>> > don't know what will happen to that now. Personally, I would
> >>like
> >>> > to see license plates on anything that uses our county roads.
> >>> >
> >>> > Play safe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Earle
> >>
take out the ricers as well.
Dave
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:ug6pg296oddtdnmc8hu5joa9b6s7l7b0af@4ax.com...
> one strand, approx 3.5 feet up. <wicked evil grin>
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:18:00 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>In Colorado the state constitution theoretically gives one the
> >>right to shoot trespassers on private property, but because of
> >>liberal influences in the legislature you do have to fence it and
> >>put up signs, before you can shoot them. I don't want to see the
> >>entire valley fenced in, but barbed wire does have a certain
> >>"Western" look and charm to it. What height would you suggest for
> >>optimal effect against ATVs and riders?
> >>
> >>Earle
> >>
> >>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450B8766.A42D3EB5@***.net...
> >>> I bet next time he'll be armed. He must be one of those
> >>liberals
> >>> from Washington state, that just moved in.
> >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>
> >>> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Not really OT, but no Jeeps involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Silverton man victim of ATV rage. County struggles to deal
> >>with backcountry drivers."
> >>> > Broken leg, trespassers on ATVs, nasty stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >><http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin...tion.asp?artic
> >>le_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060914_3.htm>
> >>> >
> >>> > We have practically no law enforcement here, but people do get
> >>fed
> >>> > up when this sort of thing happens. The town was considering
> >>an
> >>> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> >>but I
> >>> > don't know what will happen to that now. Personally, I would
> >>like
> >>> > to see license plates on anything that uses our county roads.
> >>> >
> >>> > Play safe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Earle
> >>
09-17-2006, 10:51 AM
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Re: ATV Rage
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:450b74d5$0$24309$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The town was considering an
> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> > but I don't know what will happen to that now. Personally,
> > I would like to see license plates on anything that uses our
> > county roads.
>
> might as well, its working just fine in montana -
> http://utilityoffroad.com/tech/general/tags/index.html
>
This is cool, but our state is taking the approach that counties
can handle this on their own. This of course has its good side,
and its bad side. The locals are taking the approach that they
don't want to hurt any tourist's "feelings", because they might
not come back. I'm from Back East and I know that the more
restrictions, permits, regulations, etc. there are, the more money
tourists will spend. The county commissioners are a drunk, a tree
hugger who sells stuff made out of feathers to the tourists, and
another drunk. One of the drawbacks to representative government,
is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
Earle
news:450c81eb$0$34068$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:450b74d5$0$24309$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The town was considering an
> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> > but I don't know what will happen to that now. Personally,
> > I would like to see license plates on anything that uses our
> > county roads.
>
> might as well, its working just fine in montana -
> http://utilityoffroad.com/tech/general/tags/index.html
>
This is cool, but our state is taking the approach that counties
can handle this on their own. This of course has its good side,
and its bad side. The locals are taking the approach that they
don't want to hurt any tourist's "feelings", because they might
not come back. I'm from Back East and I know that the more
restrictions, permits, regulations, etc. there are, the more money
tourists will spend. The county commissioners are a drunk, a tree
hugger who sells stuff made out of feathers to the tourists, and
another drunk. One of the drawbacks to representative government,
is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
Earle
09-17-2006, 10:51 AM
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Re: ATV Rage
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:450b74d5$0$24309$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The town was considering an
> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> > but I don't know what will happen to that now. Personally,
> > I would like to see license plates on anything that uses our
> > county roads.
>
> might as well, its working just fine in montana -
> http://utilityoffroad.com/tech/general/tags/index.html
>
This is cool, but our state is taking the approach that counties
can handle this on their own. This of course has its good side,
and its bad side. The locals are taking the approach that they
don't want to hurt any tourist's "feelings", because they might
not come back. I'm from Back East and I know that the more
restrictions, permits, regulations, etc. there are, the more money
tourists will spend. The county commissioners are a drunk, a tree
hugger who sells stuff made out of feathers to the tourists, and
another drunk. One of the drawbacks to representative government,
is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
Earle
news:450c81eb$0$34068$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:450b74d5$0$24309$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The town was considering an
> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> > but I don't know what will happen to that now. Personally,
> > I would like to see license plates on anything that uses our
> > county roads.
>
> might as well, its working just fine in montana -
> http://utilityoffroad.com/tech/general/tags/index.html
>
This is cool, but our state is taking the approach that counties
can handle this on their own. This of course has its good side,
and its bad side. The locals are taking the approach that they
don't want to hurt any tourist's "feelings", because they might
not come back. I'm from Back East and I know that the more
restrictions, permits, regulations, etc. there are, the more money
tourists will spend. The county commissioners are a drunk, a tree
hugger who sells stuff made out of feathers to the tourists, and
another drunk. One of the drawbacks to representative government,
is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
Earle
09-17-2006, 10:51 AM
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Re: ATV Rage
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:450b74d5$0$24309$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The town was considering an
> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> > but I don't know what will happen to that now. Personally,
> > I would like to see license plates on anything that uses our
> > county roads.
>
> might as well, its working just fine in montana -
> http://utilityoffroad.com/tech/general/tags/index.html
>
This is cool, but our state is taking the approach that counties
can handle this on their own. This of course has its good side,
and its bad side. The locals are taking the approach that they
don't want to hurt any tourist's "feelings", because they might
not come back. I'm from Back East and I know that the more
restrictions, permits, regulations, etc. there are, the more money
tourists will spend. The county commissioners are a drunk, a tree
hugger who sells stuff made out of feathers to the tourists, and
another drunk. One of the drawbacks to representative government,
is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
Earle
news:450c81eb$0$34068$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:450b74d5$0$24309$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > The town was considering an
> > ordinance change to let people drive these things into town,
> > but I don't know what will happen to that now. Personally,
> > I would like to see license plates on anything that uses our
> > county roads.
>
> might as well, its working just fine in montana -
> http://utilityoffroad.com/tech/general/tags/index.html
>
This is cool, but our state is taking the approach that counties
can handle this on their own. This of course has its good side,
and its bad side. The locals are taking the approach that they
don't want to hurt any tourist's "feelings", because they might
not come back. I'm from Back East and I know that the more
restrictions, permits, regulations, etc. there are, the more money
tourists will spend. The county commissioners are a drunk, a tree
hugger who sells stuff made out of feathers to the tourists, and
another drunk. One of the drawbacks to representative government,
is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
Earle
09-17-2006, 11:46 AM
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Re: ATV Rage
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@msn.com> wrote in message
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> One of the drawbacks to representative government,
> is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
lol......i dont see how anybody can argue that.
--
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news:450d606c$0$9125$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> One of the drawbacks to representative government,
> is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
lol......i dont see how anybody can argue that.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
09-17-2006, 11:46 AM
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Re: ATV Rage
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@msn.com> wrote in message
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> One of the drawbacks to representative government,
> is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
lol......i dont see how anybody can argue that.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
news:450d606c$0$9125$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> One of the drawbacks to representative government,
> is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
lol......i dont see how anybody can argue that.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
09-17-2006, 11:46 AM
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Re: ATV Rage
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@msn.com> wrote in message
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> One of the drawbacks to representative government,
> is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
lol......i dont see how anybody can argue that.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
news:450d606c$0$9125$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> One of the drawbacks to representative government,
> is that idiots will insist on being represented by idiots.
lol......i dont see how anybody can argue that.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Carry.com
http://GlockCarry.com
09-17-2006, 11:54 AM
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Re: OT: ATV Rage
"Dave Milne" <whoneeds@toknow.com> wrote in message
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>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
(not a reply to dave specifically)
i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
property without your permission looking for a missing child......or perhaps
chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property (placing
the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
fencing will do the trick.
--
Nathan W. Collier
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http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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news:_bdPg.20395$r61.12332@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>A noise activated land mine would be nice !
(not a reply to dave specifically)
i understand the sentiment (strategically placed wires, etc.) but keep in
mind that for every ------- ATV rider who is trespassing on purpose, there
are many more who trespass completely unknowingly. many trail systems are
poorly marked. its easy to get confused and way off course (especially in
vast rural areas). it could also be an LEO on an ATV who is on your
property without your permission looking for a missing child......or perhaps
chasing a really bad guy. instead of booby trapping your property (placing
the innocent at risk of injury, and your self at great liability), proper
fencing will do the trick.
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