OT Alternators from AutoZone?
12-18-2003, 11:38 AM
#41
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Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Jerry,
Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
figure
> out.
>
> It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
the
> ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
>
> Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
figure
> out.
>
> It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
the
> ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
>
> Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:38 AM
#42
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Jerry,
Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
figure
> out.
>
> It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
the
> ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
>
> Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
figure
> out.
>
> It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
the
> ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
>
> Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:38 AM
#43
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Jerry,
Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
figure
> out.
>
> It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
the
> ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
>
> Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
figure
> out.
>
> It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
the
> ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
>
> Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:53 AM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Nathan,
It's an internal Voltage Reg.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:WfcEb.135833$Vu5.8466526@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brri52$685sq$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The direct ground thing? I don't have a battery drain. I left this car
> for
> > a week at a time and still had a good start up.
>
> ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive bad
> alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external regulator?
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
It's an internal Voltage Reg.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:WfcEb.135833$Vu5.8466526@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brri52$685sq$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The direct ground thing? I don't have a battery drain. I left this car
> for
> > a week at a time and still had a good start up.
>
> ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive bad
> alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external regulator?
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:53 AM
#45
Guest
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Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Nathan,
It's an internal Voltage Reg.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:WfcEb.135833$Vu5.8466526@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brri52$685sq$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The direct ground thing? I don't have a battery drain. I left this car
> for
> > a week at a time and still had a good start up.
>
> ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive bad
> alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external regulator?
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
It's an internal Voltage Reg.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:WfcEb.135833$Vu5.8466526@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brri52$685sq$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The direct ground thing? I don't have a battery drain. I left this car
> for
> > a week at a time and still had a good start up.
>
> ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive bad
> alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external regulator?
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:53 AM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Nathan,
It's an internal Voltage Reg.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:WfcEb.135833$Vu5.8466526@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brri52$685sq$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The direct ground thing? I don't have a battery drain. I left this car
> for
> > a week at a time and still had a good start up.
>
> ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive bad
> alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external regulator?
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
It's an internal Voltage Reg.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:WfcEb.135833$Vu5.8466526@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brri52$685sq$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The direct ground thing? I don't have a battery drain. I left this car
> for
> > a week at a time and still had a good start up.
>
> ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive bad
> alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external regulator?
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:57 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Unless you have an antique with a generator in it, it is Very unlikely
you have an ammeter.
That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
today have volt meters or idiot lights.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
> two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
> goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
> is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> figure
> > out.
> >
> > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
> the
> > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> >
> > Jerry
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Jerry,
> > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > remember
> > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> stereos,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
> If
> > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> Question
> > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> The
> > > blue
> > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> connector.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > > parts.
> > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > suggest
> > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> least,
> > > you
> > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> > Ford
> > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> > had
> > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> consecutive
> > > bad
> > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > > regulator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
you have an ammeter.
That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
today have volt meters or idiot lights.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
> two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
> goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
> is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> figure
> > out.
> >
> > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
> the
> > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> >
> > Jerry
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Jerry,
> > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > remember
> > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> stereos,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
> If
> > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> Question
> > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> The
> > > blue
> > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> connector.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > > parts.
> > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > suggest
> > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> least,
> > > you
> > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> > Ford
> > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> > had
> > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> consecutive
> > > bad
> > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > > regulator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-18-2003, 11:57 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Unless you have an antique with a generator in it, it is Very unlikely
you have an ammeter.
That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
today have volt meters or idiot lights.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
> two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
> goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
> is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> figure
> > out.
> >
> > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
> the
> > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> >
> > Jerry
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Jerry,
> > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > remember
> > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> stereos,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
> If
> > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> Question
> > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> The
> > > blue
> > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> connector.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > > parts.
> > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > suggest
> > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> least,
> > > you
> > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> > Ford
> > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> > had
> > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> consecutive
> > > bad
> > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > > regulator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
you have an ammeter.
That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
today have volt meters or idiot lights.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
> two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
> goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
> is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> figure
> > out.
> >
> > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
> the
> > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> >
> > Jerry
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Jerry,
> > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > remember
> > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> stereos,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
> If
> > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> Question
> > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> The
> > > blue
> > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> connector.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > > parts.
> > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > suggest
> > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> least,
> > > you
> > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> > Ford
> > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> > had
> > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> consecutive
> > > bad
> > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > > regulator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-18-2003, 11:57 AM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Unless you have an antique with a generator in it, it is Very unlikely
you have an ammeter.
That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
today have volt meters or idiot lights.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
> two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
> goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
> is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> figure
> > out.
> >
> > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
> the
> > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> >
> > Jerry
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Jerry,
> > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > remember
> > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> stereos,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
> If
> > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> Question
> > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> The
> > > blue
> > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> connector.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > > parts.
> > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > suggest
> > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> least,
> > > you
> > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> > Ford
> > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> > had
> > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> consecutive
> > > bad
> > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > > regulator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
you have an ammeter.
That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
today have volt meters or idiot lights.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is a
> two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the other
> goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The plug
> is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
> > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
> > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
> > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
> > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> figure
> > out.
> >
> > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is
> the
> > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> >
> > Jerry
> > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Jerry,
> > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > remember
> > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> stereos,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
> If
> > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> Question
> > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> The
> > > blue
> > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> connector.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > > parts.
> > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > suggest
> > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> least,
> > > you
> > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> > Ford
> > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> > had
> > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> consecutive
> > > bad
> > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > > regulator?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-18-2003, 12:57 PM
#50
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Well, I called the dealer in Glenwood Springs and the parts person said that
all he can get for me is a remanufactured unit. The new OEM units for my
'96 are no longer available. I'm got a premium grade unit on hold at my
local NAPA. Hopefully, much better quality than the AZ unit. Only $30 less
than the dealers reman. with a lifetime warrantee instead of 12/12.
Wish me luck.
Thanks,
Paul
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FE1DC67.2645CB65@sympatico.ca...
> Unless you have an antique with a generator in it, it is Very unlikely
> you have an ammeter.
>
> That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
> today have volt meters or idiot lights.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
> >
> > Jerry,
> > Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> > would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is
a
> > two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the
other
> > goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The
plug
> > is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> > surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys
won't
> > > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on
your
> > > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you
need a
> > > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are
taking
> > > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> > figure
> > > out.
> > >
> > > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind
is
> > the
> > > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Jerry,
> > > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > > remember
> > > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70
Amp
> > > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems
odd
> > > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> > stereos,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after
work.
> > If
> > > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> > Question
> > > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to
the
> > > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from
them?
> > > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> > The
> > > > blue
> > > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> > connector.
> > > > >
> > > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying
OEM
> > > > parts.
> > > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > > suggest
> > > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> > least,
> > > > you
> > > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery
plug.
> > > Ford
> > > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new
plug
> > > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years
before I
> > > had
> > > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> > consecutive
> > > > bad
> > > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or
external
> > > > > regulator?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
all he can get for me is a remanufactured unit. The new OEM units for my
'96 are no longer available. I'm got a premium grade unit on hold at my
local NAPA. Hopefully, much better quality than the AZ unit. Only $30 less
than the dealers reman. with a lifetime warrantee instead of 12/12.
Wish me luck.
Thanks,
Paul
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FE1DC67.2645CB65@sympatico.ca...
> Unless you have an antique with a generator in it, it is Very unlikely
> you have an ammeter.
>
> That is an amp meter used to show the output of a generator. Vehicles
> today have volt meters or idiot lights.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
> >
> > Jerry,
> > Is the ammeter the device that signals the dash light to show? If so,
> > would I pull the fuse to disconnect? Also, my plug on the alternator is
a
> > two wire unit. I presume one wire conducts the excite charge and the
other
> > goes to the dash light. I'll have to look at the wiring diagram. The
plug
> > is pretty solid. It has quite sturdy female spades in it and their
> > surrounded (fused in) by plastic.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1d4a1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys
won't
> > > give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on
your
> > > vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you
need a
> > > new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are
taking
> > > responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
> > > alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to
> > figure
> > > out.
> > >
> > > It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
> > > wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind
is
> > the
> > > ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
> > > reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
> > > unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Jerry,
> > > > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> > > remember
> > > > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70
Amp
> > > > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems
odd
> > > > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
> > stereos,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after
work.
> > If
> > > > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
> > Question
> > > > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to
the
> > > > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from
them?
> > > > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > > > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
> > The
> > > > blue
> > > > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
> > connector.
> > > > >
> > > > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying
OEM
> > > > parts.
> > > > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> > > suggest
> > > > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
> > least,
> > > > you
> > > > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery
plug.
> > > Ford
> > > > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new
plug
> > > > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years
before I
> > > had
> > > > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
> > consecutive
> > > > bad
> > > > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or
external
> > > > > regulator?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >